Re: [OSM-talk] TAG-Suggestion: highway:trailer_shipment

2010-01-17 Thread Carsten Moeller
Felix Hartmann schrieb: I think the main part that has to be done here is that ferries, or motorails however as well aerialways get connected to the main road network using lines (routing over polygons is so complicated that no router will soon master it in a useful way). How they are

Re: [OSM-talk] TAG-Suggestion: highway:trailer_shipment

2010-01-17 Thread Steve Bennett
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 10:14 PM, Carsten Moeller cmindivid...@gmx.de wrote: I do agree. Railways, aerialway etc. should be connected to highways. But this should not be expressed by connecting same nodes. Here ramps or links come into play. If you have a closer look at todays OSM-Data I think

Re: [OSM-talk] TAG-Suggestion: highway:trailer_shipment (Carsten Moeller)

2010-01-17 Thread Richard Bullock
A highway=steps would imply you can use your car here. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Image:Steps.jpg You wouldn't *seriously* consider driving up or down a flight of steps...surely?? If I understood the intention correctly then highway is something you can drive on. No. The

Re: [OSM-talk] TAG-Suggestion: highway:trailer_shipment

2010-01-17 Thread Carsten Möller
Richard Bullock schrieb: A highway=steps would imply you can use your car here. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Image:Steps.jpg You wouldn't *seriously* consider driving up or down a flight of steps...surely?? If I understood the intention correctly then highway is something you

Re: [OSM-talk] TAG-Suggestion: highway:trailer_shipment (Carsten Moeller)

2010-01-17 Thread Carsten Möller
Richard Bullock schrieb: A highway=steps would imply you can use your car here. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Image:Steps.jpg You wouldn't *seriously* consider driving up or down a flight of steps...surely?? If I understood the intention correctly then highway is something you

Re: [OSM-talk] TAG-Suggestion: highway:trailer_shipment (Carsten Moeller)

2010-01-17 Thread Dave F.
Richard Bullock wrote: A highway=steps would imply you can use your car here. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Image:Steps.jpg You wouldn't *seriously* consider driving up or down a flight of steps...surely?? The Italian Job? ;-) ___

Re: [OSM-talk] TAG-Suggestion: highway:trailer_shipment

2010-01-16 Thread Carsten Moeller
Ulf Lamping schrieb: Am 15.01.2010 23:02, schrieb Carsten Moeller: yes, osm relations are one possible solution. But from the view of a pgRouter it is a very stony way to collect that data back into a routing table. You are right, that there should be a tag like terminal or ramp or even

Re: [OSM-talk] TAG-Suggestion: highway:trailer_shipment

2010-01-16 Thread Ulf Lamping
Am 16.01.2010 10:16, schrieb Carsten Moeller: Yes, I do agree. We should have tags describing short and long distances. The latter is possibly best expressed by using relations. Yes, there are already tags for our problem: highway=service amenity=ferry_terminal (if it allows cargo=vehicle)

Re: [OSM-talk] TAG-Suggestion: highway:trailer_shipment

2010-01-16 Thread Carsten Moeller
Ulf Lamping schrieb: Am 16.01.2010 10:16, schrieb Carsten Moeller: Yes, I do agree. We should have tags describing short and long distances. The latter is possibly best expressed by using relations. Yes, there are already tags for our problem: highway=service amenity=ferry_terminal (if it

Re: [OSM-talk] TAG-Suggestion: highway:trailer_shipment

2010-01-16 Thread Felix Hartmann
I think the main part that has to be done here is that ferries, or motorails however as well aerialways get connected to the main road network using lines (routing over polygons is so complicated that no router will soon master it in a useful way). How they are connected should be dependant on

[OSM-talk] TAG-Suggestion: highway:trailer_shipment

2010-01-15 Thread Carsten Moeller
Hey folks, first of all I'll have to apologize my bad english. I also hope that this is the right place for my question. I'm playing around with pgRouting and OSM - mainly in the north of Germany. (Schleswig-Holstein / Hamburg) I came across some annoying issues. There are several islands that

Re: [OSM-talk] TAG-Suggestion: highway:trailer_shipment

2010-01-15 Thread Ulf Lamping
Am 15.01.2010 15:43, schrieb Carsten Moeller: Hey folks, first of all I'll have to apologize my bad english. I also hope that this is the right place for my question. I'm playing around with pgRouting and OSM - mainly in the north of Germany. (Schleswig-Holstein / Hamburg) I came across

Re: [OSM-talk] TAG-Suggestion: highway:trailer_shipment

2010-01-15 Thread Carsten Moeller
Ulf Lamping schrieb: Am 15.01.2010 15:43, schrieb Carsten Moeller: Hey folks, first of all I'll have to apologize my bad english. I also hope that this is the right place for my question. I'm playing around with pgRouting and OSM - mainly in the north of Germany. (Schleswig-Holstein /

Re: [OSM-talk] TAG-Suggestion: highway:trailer_shipment

2010-01-15 Thread Ulf Lamping
Am 15.01.2010 23:02, schrieb Carsten Moeller: yes, osm relations are one possible solution. But from the view of a pgRouter it is a very stony way to collect that data back into a routing table. You are right, that there should be a tag like terminal or ramp or even simpler link. Seems