Re: [OSM-talk] The new OpenStreetMap.org design

2013-12-09 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 12/09/2013 12:37 AM, SomeoneElse wrote: - A better experience for veterans. This is where most of the complaints seem to be targeted (not unnaturally, since new users by definition won't know if they're getting a better or worse experience than they would have had previously). For

Re: [OSM-talk] The new OpenStreetMap.org design

2013-12-09 Thread James Mast
To: talk@openstreetmap.org From: o...@malenki.ch Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 18:31:44 +0100 Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] The new OpenStreetMap.org design A regression is the inability to browse the changesets of users efficiently. Example: From time to time I need to have a look at what I mapped

Re: [OSM-talk] The new OpenStreetMap.org design

2013-12-08 Thread SomeoneElse
On 04/12/2013 00:52, John Firebaugh wrote: This past weekend, the OpenStreetMap.org front page launched with a new design. First of all - thanks for posting here. As I mentioned in the other thread it's always helpful to put a human face on some of the design decisions to try and understand

Re: [OSM-talk] The new OpenStreetMap.org design

2013-12-04 Thread Lester Caine
John Firebaugh wrote: This redesign is a leap forward, but not the end-all be-all. There is most definitely room for improvement, and constructive feedback and hands-on help is always welcome. Design is subjective, and some things like the 'modern' trend to eliminate coloured icons for

Re: [OSM-talk] The new OpenStreetMap.org design

2013-12-04 Thread Ed Loach
Lester wrote: The other area though is the fact that for many years we have been (aside: we who?) using the embedded map as a replacement for Google and I HOPE we still want to encourage that use? But the shift to being 'mapping' orientated as it odds with that usage? Now that

Re: [OSM-talk] The new OpenStreetMap.org design

2013-12-04 Thread Lester Caine
Ed Loach wrote: Lester wrote: The other area though is the fact that for many years we have been (aside: we who?) Well if I am the only person using embedded maps then why provide them? using the embedded map as a replacement for Google and I HOPE we still want to encourage that

Re: [OSM-talk] The new OpenStreetMap.org design

2013-12-04 Thread Paul Norman
much weight or change anything. From: Ed Loach [mailto:edlo...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 1:39 AM To: 'Lester Caine'; talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] The new OpenStreetMap.org design I must be missing something. I've just tried an HTML share and the view

Re: [OSM-talk] The new OpenStreetMap.org design

2013-12-04 Thread Ed Loach
Lester replied: Well if I am the only person using embedded maps then why provide them? Sorry, when you used we I didn't know who you were speaking about. I've just been working through all the combinations again to document things myself. Yesterday when I grabbed an iframe, the large map

Re: [OSM-talk] The new OpenStreetMap.org design

2013-12-04 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Wednesday 04 December 2013, John Firebaugh wrote: Concretely, here are the improvements we implemented: [...] Are there any plans to evaluate if these design goals are actually met? I know this is difficult to assess but you could do quite a bit by analyzing server logs before and after

Re: [OSM-talk] The new OpenStreetMap.org design

2013-12-04 Thread Lester Caine
Ed Loach wrote: I've just been working through all the combinations again to document things myself. Yesterday when I grabbed an iframe, the large map link included a way reference! I edited it out. Not sure how I managed to get that as I would not have know the id number without it being

Re: [OSM-talk] The new OpenStreetMap.org design

2013-12-04 Thread malenki
On 03.12.2013 16:52, John Firebaugh wrote: The goal of the redesign was to make the site more inviting for newcomers, [...] to clean it up and refresh its looks, That was quite successful. Also thanks for the quick implementing of the [x] button after the new design went live. - A better

Re: [OSM-talk] The new OpenStreetMap.org design

2013-12-04 Thread SomeoneElse
Christoph Hormann wrote: ... In particular from my perspective (and others have made statements in a similar direction) the claim of an overall better usability is somewhat doubtful at this point. My impression (already expressed on this list) is that the new design is significantly less

[OSM-talk] The new OpenStreetMap.org design

2013-12-03 Thread John Firebaugh
This past weekend, the OpenStreetMap.org front page launched with a new design. This was a big step for a site whose design hasn't changed much in 7 years [1]. The goal of the redesign was to make the site more inviting for newcomers, easier and more efficient for veterans, to clean it up and