Re: [OSM-talk] Your experience in reaching out to Maps.me users ?

2020-12-09 Thread Andreas Vilén
Also, what exactly is "to the right" in this context? North, East, South or West? /Andreas On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 3:04 AM Mario Frasca wrote: > My experience is limited to one person in Panamá, who's used two user > names: Kielito and Kielito1. > > He adds shops, one per changeset, he shortens

Re: [OSM-talk] Your experience in reaching out to Maps.me users ?

2020-12-06 Thread Mario Frasca
My experience is limited to one person in Panamá, who's used two user names: Kielito and Kielito1. He adds shops, one per changeset, he shortens names, and seldom uses capital letters. https://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=8527833

Re: [OSM-talk] Your experience in reaching out to Maps.me users ?

2020-12-04 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via talk
Dec 4, 2020, 17:37 by michael.montan...@gmail.com: > nothing is letting them know that they are actually vandalising the map. > If they continue to edit and ignore comments then contacting Data Working Group would be the next step (they can use 0-time block that makes sure that someone will

Re: [OSM-talk] Your experience in reaching out to Maps.me users ?

2020-12-04 Thread Michael Montani
Dear all, I'm calling back a discussion on this mailing list on how Maps.Me edits most of the times result to be very bad and close to vandalism. Furthermore it seems the editor hasn't any notification system (as iD and JOSM) to tell the user that at least someone sent an OSM message. We found

Re: [OSM-talk] Your experience in reaching out to Maps.me users ?

2020-11-13 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via talk
Nov 12, 2020, 14:50 by ajt1...@gmail.com: > On 12/11/2020 13:20, Michał Brzozowski wrote: > >> >> - the e-mail notifications about changeset comments do not have either a >> definitive "call to action" nor any explanation what to do (or a link to >> Wiki page with such) >> > They don't,

Re: [OSM-talk] Your experience in reaching out to Maps.me users ?

2020-11-12 Thread Brian M. Sperlongano
Huh. Yes, that's exactly what it did. Certainly not the behavior I'd expect. On Thu, Nov 12, 2020, 11:58 AM Michał Brzozowski wrote: > Hi Brian, the comment was probably made into an OSM Note. Check Notes on > that OSM user page. > > Greetings > Michał > > czw., 12 lis 2020, 17:56 użytkownik

Re: [OSM-talk] Your experience in reaching out to Maps.me users ?

2020-11-12 Thread Michał Brzozowski
Hi Brian, the comment was probably made into an OSM Note. Check Notes on that OSM user page. Greetings Michał czw., 12 lis 2020, 17:56 użytkownik Brian M. Sperlongano < zelonew...@gmail.com> napisał: > I downloaded and made a test edit (adding an address to a local POI) with > maps.me just now

Re: [OSM-talk] Your experience in reaching out to Maps.me users ?

2020-11-12 Thread Brian M. Sperlongano
I downloaded and made a test edit (adding an address to a local POI) with maps.me just now to understand how it works. It does at least make you log in to OSM. I entered in a comment on the change, however, I note that maps.me overwrote my user-entered comment with a generic comment in the

Re: [OSM-talk] Your experience in reaching out to Maps.me users ?

2020-11-12 Thread Mikel Maron
Hi, I’m not actually a active moderator on this list, but I was asked to step in by several people, and I think it’s appropriate. I think this discussion can stay substantive without veering off topic into geopolitics (we have the whole rest of the internet for that), and using profanity and

Re: [OSM-talk] Your experience in reaching out to Maps.me users ?

2020-11-12 Thread Stephan Knauss
Hello, On 12.11.2020 10:55, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: Is it just me or are Maps.me Openstreetmap contributors unaware of Openstreetmap messages ? Does anyone here have seen Maps.me Openstreetmap contributors answer to Openstreetmap messages ? I share your experience. Typical maps.me edits are

Re: [OSM-talk] Your experience in reaching out to Maps.me users ?

2020-11-12 Thread Tomas Straupis
>> I see you do not manage to differentiate historical episodes and >> CURRENT situation. > Is May 2020 not recent enough? May 2020 is irrelevant: had no involvement of the US military, no war with neighbours. >> If you are not familiar with how things work in Moscow or relations >> of

Re: [OSM-talk] Your experience in reaching out to Maps.me users ?

2020-11-12 Thread Clay Smalley
On Thu, Nov 12, 2020, 9:51 AM Tomas Straupis wrote: > 2020-11-12, kt, 16:41 Clay Smalley rašė: > > Anyway, this is clearly off topic and has veered into your personal > > bugaboos about governments you don't like. > > I see you do not manage to differentiate historical episodes and > CURRENT

Re: [OSM-talk] Your experience in reaching out to Maps.me users ?

2020-11-12 Thread Tomas Straupis
2020-11-12, kt, 16:41 Clay Smalley rašė: > Anyway, this is clearly off topic and has veered into your personal > bugaboos about governments you don't like. I see you do not manage to differentiate historical episodes and CURRENT situation. > Maps.me doesn't seem to have any involvement in

Re: [OSM-talk] Your experience in reaching out to Maps.me users ?

2020-11-12 Thread Clay Smalley
On Thu, Nov 12, 2020, 9:25 AM Tomas Straupis wrote: > > Besides, Mapbox is known to work with United States government > > agencies as well as military weapons manufacturers (so-called > > "defense contractors"). Does this bother you at all? > > I have no information about the United States

Re: [OSM-talk] Your experience in reaching out to Maps.me users ?

2020-11-12 Thread Tomas Straupis
2020-11-12, kt, 15:54 Clay Smalley rašė: >> Maps.me (or crap.me as it is known in some places) is a known bad actor: >> * It disguises as made in Holland, when it is actually made in Moscow >> by a company having close ties with the Kremlin. > I don't think this is accurate or even relevant.

Re: [OSM-talk] Your experience in reaching out to Maps.me users ?

2020-11-12 Thread Clay Smalley
On Thu, Nov 12, 2020, 5:36 AM Tomas Straupis wrote: > Maps.me (or crap.me as it is known in some places) is a known bad actor: > * It disguises as made in Holland, when it is actually made in Moscow > by a company having close ties with the Kremlin. > I don't think this is accurate or even

Re: [OSM-talk] Your experience in reaching out to Maps.me users ?

2020-11-12 Thread Andy Townsend
On 12/11/2020 13:20, Michał Brzozowski wrote: - the e-mail notifications about changeset comments do not have either a definitive "call to action" nor any explanation what to do (or a link to Wiki page with such) They don't, unless the person writing the changeset comment puts that

Re: [OSM-talk] Your experience in reaching out to Maps.me users ?

2020-11-12 Thread Michał Brzozowski
Hi, good question. Keep in mind that: - OSM notifications go to Notifications in Gmail which does not normally make a system notification sound on Android, you have to look there. Although I may be wrong here, some of emails in this folder (that Gmail deems important) do notify the user loudly.

Re: [OSM-talk] Your experience in reaching out to Maps.me users ?

2020-11-12 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via talk
Nov 12, 2020, 10:55 by j...@liotier.org: > Is it just me or are Maps.me Openstreetmap contributors unaware of > Openstreetmap messages ? Does anyone here have seen Maps.me Openstreetmap > contributors answer to Openstreetmap messages ? > Yes, but answer rate is ridiculously low, less than 1 in

Re: [OSM-talk] Your experience in reaching out to Maps.me users ?

2020-11-12 Thread Andy Townsend
On 12/11/2020 09:55, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: Is it just me or are Maps.me Openstreetmap contributors unaware of Openstreetmap messages ? Does anyone here have seen Maps.me Openstreetmap contributors answer to Openstreetmap messages ? They'll get an email just like every other email user. 

Re: [OSM-talk] Your experience in reaching out to Maps.me users ?

2020-11-12 Thread Tomas Straupis
Maps.me (or crap.me as it is known in some places) is a known bad actor: * It disguises as made in Holland, when it is actually made in Moscow by a company having close ties with the Kremlin. * It does not clearly tell their uses they are using OpenStreetMap data (therefore their users have a WTH

[OSM-talk] Your experience in reaching out to Maps.me users ?

2020-11-12 Thread Jean-Marc Liotier
A contributor blankets Bamako with office=government nodes named in all caps - a sad situation, especially considering how much effort he puts into wrongly tagging valid POI (details, in French: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ml/2020-November/000254.html). Changeset comment and