On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 12:25 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer
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2009/12/1 OJ W ojwli...@googlemail.com
Edit the coastline so that it joins the islands instead of separating
them
but won't this operation make one island instead of 2 that they are?
cheers,
Martin
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 5:36 AM, Cartinus carti...@xs4all.nl wrote:
On Tuesday 01 December 2009 00:20:20 Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
there is a proposal for it since March 2007, you can simply find it by
typing causeway in search.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Causeway
2009/12/1 OJ W ojwli...@googlemail.com
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 12:25 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer
dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/12/1 OJ W ojwli...@googlemail.com
Edit the coastline so that it joins the islands instead of separating
them
but won't this operation make one island
2009/12/1 Cartinus carti...@xs4all.nl
On Tuesday 01 December 2009 00:20:20 Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
there is a proposal for it since March 2007, you can simply find it by
typing causeway in search.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Causeway
That page says:
Status:
Cartinus wrote:
On Tuesday 01 December 2009 00:20:20 Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
there is a proposal for it since March 2007, you can simply find it by
typing causeway in search.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Causeway
That page says:
Status: Abandoned
That search shows you
Liz wrote:
On Tue, 1 Dec 2009, Cartinus wrote:
Where do you get the idea that a causeway is periodically inundated from?
When it is an Australian causeway in a dry creek bed.
That would not be a causeway in US English. Is the byway running along the
creek or just crossing it (what we in Texas
OJ W wrote:
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 12:25 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer
dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/12/1 OJ W ojwli...@googlemail.com
Edit the coastline so that it joins the islands instead of separating
them
but won't this operation make one island instead of 2 that they are?
cheers,
On Wed, 2 Dec 2009, Randy wrote:
Liz wrote:
On Tue, 1 Dec 2009, Cartinus wrote:
Where do you get the idea that a causeway is periodically inundated from?
When it is an Australian causeway in a dry creek bed.
That would not be a causeway in US English. Is the byway running along the
creek
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On Wed, 2 Dec 2009, Randy wrote:
Liz wrote:
On Tue, 1 Dec 2009, Cartinus wrote:
Where do you get the idea that a causeway is periodically inundated from?
When it is an Australian causeway in a dry creek bed
I think this is a case where the different versions of English are not
quite the same. To me:
A ford is a crossing that is usually underwater all the time. However
the water is shallow enough that you can cross anyway, just expect to
get a bit wet. It may be dry if the whole river dries up, or
IMHO, the US English/Australian English issue here is spurious. Australians
certainly understand and use the word ford to mean a low water crossing.
We also use the word causeway to mean an embankment with a road on top of
it. We sometimes also use the word causeway to mean a ford (particularly
2009/12/2 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com:
IMHO, the US English/Australian English issue here is spurious. Australians
certainly understand and use the word ford to mean a low water crossing.
I disagree, I've only ever heard them refered to as causeways and
fords up until I started mapping
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 1:30 PM, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote:
we have persistent trouble with the eurocentric view of the world projected
by
OSM
so when they are arguing about various terms, its important to let them
know
that UK English ain't what we use
Be grateful it's UK english and
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote:
no no no
a causeway need not have a road
the devil's causeway in eire and all the rest of those examples
This? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giant%27s_Causeway
Looks like natural=coastline to me!
Again, are you not confusing the
how do i tag/draw a connection between 2 islands, it is not a bridge as i
understand a bridge
take a look at the pictures on this page if you dont know what i mean
http://landsverk.fo/default.asp?sida=718bolkaid=6projectid=299
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2009/11/30 Martin Fossdal Guttesen mgutte...@hotmail.com
how do i tag/draw a connection between 2 islands, it is not a bridge as i
understand a bridge
take a look at the pictures on this page if you dont know what i mean
http://landsverk.fo/default.asp?sida=718bolkaid=6projectid=299
yes,
as
an embankment
or should i just put an embankment on the way
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2009/11/30 Martin Fossdal Guttesen mgutte...@hotmail.com
Ok thanks
i will use embankment
there are only 2 of them in Faroe Islands so no biggie to change
but then is the question what/how to tag
right now i just have a way going from one island to the other
should i draw an area that
right now i just have a way going from one island to the other
should i draw an area that is a little wider than the road and tag the
area as an embankment
or should i just put an embankment on the way
What ever you like better. Remember
usage (leads to) convenience (leads to)
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On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 4:03 AM, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.comwrote:
I would class that as a causeway, rather than an embankment. I think wet
area in the Wikipedia definition would refer to boggy ground, or an
intermittently-flooded low-lying area, rather than to lake-bottom or
not to
think at all. -- Hypatia of Alexandria
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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 04:12:44
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On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 4:33 AM, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.comwrote:
If you look at the photos on the web page, the feature in question is
definitely man made, not natural. It is a raised walkway between two
islands, made by piling up rocks.
Yep. Same with my example. I'm just going
On Monday 30 November 2009 18:33:42 John F. Eldredge wrote:
If you look at the photos on the web page, the feature in question is
definitely man made, not natural.
Despite its tag name, natural=coastline is used for all coastlines, whether
they are natural or man made.
--
m.v.g.,
Cartinus
2009/11/30 John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com
I would class that as a causeway, rather than an embankment. I think wet
area in the Wikipedia definition would refer to boggy ground, or an
intermittently-flooded low-lying area, rather than to lake-bottom or
sea-bottom that is underwater all
by your name I guess you're an English native speaker, so I guess
you're right, still the definition in WIkipedia states:
In modern usage, a *causeway* is a road or railway elevated on a
sandbank http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandbank, usually across a
broad body of water
On Monday 30 November 2009 22:09:10 Martin Fossdal Guttesen wrote:
I would agree that it is more like a Causeway jugding from the wikipedia
article and images, but i cant find any tag for that, and i dont think it
would render on the map
There are only twelve occurrences of man_made=causeway
On Tue, 1 Dec 2009, Martin Fossdal Guttesen wrote:
how do i tag/draw a connection between 2 islands, it is not a bridge as i
understand a bridge
take a look at the pictures on this page if you dont know what i mean
http://landsverk.fo/default.asp?sida=718bolkaid=6projectid=299
/LiFo
In
2009/11/30 Cartinus carti...@xs4all.nl
On Monday 30 November 2009 22:09:10 Martin Fossdal Guttesen wrote:
I would agree that it is more like a Causeway jugding from the wikipedia
article and images, but i cant find any tag for that, and i dont think it
would render on the map
so what?
Edit the coastline so that it joins the islands instead of separating
them. Make sure the new coastline along both sides of this causeway
is all in the same direction as the existing coastline (anticlockwise
around islands with water on right of the coastline, and land on
left?), and without gaps
2009/12/1 OJ W ojwli...@googlemail.com
Edit the coastline so that it joins the islands instead of separating
them
but won't this operation make one island instead of 2 that they are?
cheers,
Martin
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On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com
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but won't this operation make one island instead of 2 that they are?
That's a philosophical question. It sounds like they *are* one island :) If
there's a solid barrier between them, that water can't get
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On Tuesday 01 December 2009 00:20:20 Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
there is a proposal for it since March 2007, you can simply find it by
typing causeway in search.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Causeway
That page says:
Status: Abandoned
That search shows you as the fourth
On Tuesday 01 December 2009 06:12:07 John F. Eldredge wrote:
Just out of curiosity, what is used for the coastline of an oceanic island?
High tide mark? Low tide mark? The average of the two?
from http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural%3Dcoastline
Tidal position
The coastline way
On Tue, 1 Dec 2009, Cartinus wrote:
Where do you get the idea that a causeway is periodically inundated from?
When it is an Australian causeway in a dry creek bed.
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Just out of curiosity, what is used for the coastline of an oceanic
island? High tide mark? Low tide mark? The average of the two? There
would be some instances where you have a single island at low tide, and
two
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