Re: [OSM-talk] correctly mapping avenues

2008-02-14 Thread Robert (Jamie) Munro
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Karl Newman wrote: | On Feb 11, 2008 7:20 AM, Bernd Raichle [EMAIL PROTECTED] | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | Hi, | | | on Sunday, 10 February 2008 08:34:31 -0800, | Karl Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |

Re: [OSM-talk] correctly mapping avenues

2008-02-14 Thread Karl Newman
| I am against east/west/north/south because there are a lot of | ways/areas/things which do not go straight ahead. But they nearly all run nearer to one of those directions than they do to any of the others. If you want to say that a North East road is one way, you can call it North or

Re: [OSM-talk] correctly mapping avenues

2008-02-11 Thread Karl Newman
On Feb 11, 2008 8:58 AM, Gervase Markham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Karl Newman wrote: Big +1 on this proposal. That's exactly what I've been thinking about lately. It's stupid to chop up nice long ways just because the speed limit changes or the way happens to cross a bridge. Isn't this

Re: [OSM-talk] correctly mapping avenues

2008-02-11 Thread Karl Newman
On Feb 11, 2008 7:20 AM, Bernd Raichle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, on Sunday, 10 February 2008 08:34:31 -0800, Karl Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Feb 10, 2008 4:21 AM, Frederik Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since trees lining a way/street are such a common occurence, why

Re: [OSM-talk] correctly mapping avenues

2008-02-11 Thread Bernd Raichle
Hi, on Sunday, 10 February 2008 08:34:31 -0800, Karl Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Feb 10, 2008 4:21 AM, Frederik Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since trees lining a way/street are such a common occurence, why not have a simple additional tag to the main road.

Re: [OSM-talk] correctly mapping avenues

2008-02-11 Thread Gervase Markham
Karl Newman wrote: Big +1 on this proposal. That's exactly what I've been thinking about lately. It's stupid to chop up nice long ways just because the speed limit changes or the way happens to cross a bridge. Isn't this exactly why relations were invented? To unite a set of ways with a

Re: [OSM-talk] correctly mapping avenues

2008-02-11 Thread bvh
On Mon, Feb 11, 2008 at 04:20:02PM +0100, Bernd Raichle wrote: (a) the direction is too easily changed, sometimes by mistake ... because none of the current OSM editors show direction- or side-related tags explicitly. Merkaartor does for the direction related tags it understands. I need to

Re: [OSM-talk] correctly mapping avenues

2008-02-10 Thread Thomas Wood
On Feb 10, 2008 5:50 AM, Andrew MacKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 9, 2008 8:38 PM, Robin Paulson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/02/2008, Martin Trautmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wiseLYNX wrote: There is even an italian expression, viale alberato which specifically describes

Re: [OSM-talk] correctly mapping avenues

2008-02-10 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Since trees lining a way/street are such a common occurence, why not have a simple additional tag to the main road. lined_by_trees=yes/no/left/right I'm a bit unhappy about needlessly inflating the importance of the direction of ways. Long-term, I would actually like to get rid of the

Re: [OSM-talk] correctly mapping avenues

2008-02-10 Thread bvh
On Sun, Feb 10, 2008 at 01:21:46PM +0100, Frederik Ramm wrote: I'm a bit unhappy about needlessly inflating the importance of the direction of ways. Long-term, I would actually like to get rid of the direction and express everything in relations. The reasons for this are Hehe. The last time I

Re: [OSM-talk] correctly mapping avenues

2008-02-10 Thread Karl Newman
On Feb 10, 2008 4:21 AM, Frederik Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Since trees lining a way/street are such a common occurence, why not have a simple additional tag to the main road. lined_by_trees=yes/no/left/right I'm a bit unhappy about needlessly inflating the importance of the

Re: [OSM-talk] correctly mapping avenues

2008-02-09 Thread bvh
On Fri, Feb 08, 2008 at 06:24:12PM +0100, wiseLYNX wrote: -- -- -- -- -- highway = service Tree Tree Tree Tree amenity = park err... leisure=park err... is a line of trees a park? it ususally is just a line of trees. this piture:

Re: [OSM-talk] correctly mapping avenues

2008-02-09 Thread bvh
On Sat, Feb 09, 2008 at 01:30:07PM +1300, Robin Paulson wrote: i think landuse = row_of_trees or whatever was suggested, is a hideous abuse of the landuse tag. landuse isn't there as a dumping ground for things that taggers can't be bothered to categorise properly I agree. there is a tag

Re: [OSM-talk] correctly mapping avenues

2008-02-09 Thread wiseLYNX
Karl Newman wrote: On Feb 9, 2008 12:55 AM, bvh [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Feb 09, 2008 at 01:30:07PM +1300, Robin Paulson wrote: i think landuse = row_of_trees or whatever was suggested, is a hideous abuse of the landuse tag. landuse isn't there

Re: [OSM-talk] correctly mapping avenues

2008-02-09 Thread Karl Newman
On Feb 9, 2008 7:45 AM, bvh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Feb 09, 2008 at 08:32:01AM -0800, Karl Newman wrote: On Sat, Feb 09, 2008 at 01:30:07PM +1300, Robin Paulson wrote: i think landuse = row_of_trees or whatever was suggested, is a hideous abuse of the landuse tag. landuse

Re: [OSM-talk] correctly mapping avenues

2008-02-09 Thread Martin Trautmann
wiseLYNX wrote: There is even an italian expression, viale alberato which specifically describes an avenue with tree lines.. Could an avenue exist without tree lines? In Germany it's called Allee, in Dansk, Norsk Svenska it's Allé. I don't know the difference between the French usage of

Re: [OSM-talk] correctly mapping avenues

2008-02-09 Thread Robin Paulson
On 10/02/2008, Martin Trautmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wiseLYNX wrote: There is even an italian expression, viale alberato which specifically describes an avenue with tree lines.. Could an avenue exist without tree lines? not in english - it explicitly means a road with trees. although

Re: [OSM-talk] correctly mapping avenues

2008-02-08 Thread David Earl
On 08/02/2008 16:43, Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: -- -- -- -- -- highway = service Tree Tree Tree Tree amenity = park err... leisure=park ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] correctly mapping avenues

2008-02-08 Thread David Earl
On 08/02/2008 16:12, bvh wrote: On Fri, Feb 08, 2008 at 04:52:55PM +, David Earl wrote: On 08/02/2008 16:43, Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: -- -- -- -- -- highway = service Tree Tree Tree Tree amenity = park err... leisure=park err... is a line of trees a park? A bigger question. I

Re: [OSM-talk] correctly mapping avenues

2008-02-08 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Viernes, 8 de Febrero de 2008, wiseLYNX escribió: bvh wrote: On Fri, Feb 08, 2008 at 04:52:55PM +, David Earl wrote: On 08/02/2008 16:43, Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: -- -- -- -- -- highway = service Tree Tree Tree Tree amenity = park err... leisure=park err... is a line

Re: [OSM-talk] correctly mapping avenues

2008-02-08 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Viernes, 8 de Febrero de 2008, wiseLYNX escribió: -- -- -- -- -- Tree Tree Tree Tree - - - - Tree Tree Tree Tree -- -- -- -- -- Any suggestion about how to render all this? Even an example of an already done similar object could be useful. Make one way per

Re: [OSM-talk] correctly mapping avenues

2008-02-08 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Viernes, 8 de Febrero de 2008, wiseLYNX escribió: can someone have a look at Corso Massimo d'Azeglio? Coordinates? -- -- Iván Sánchez Ortega [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description:

Re: [OSM-talk] correctly mapping avenues

2008-02-08 Thread bvh
On Fri, Feb 08, 2008 at 04:52:55PM +, David Earl wrote: On 08/02/2008 16:43, Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: -- -- -- -- -- highway = service Tree Tree Tree Tree amenity = park err... leisure=park err... is a line of trees a park? cu bart ___

[OSM-talk] correctly mapping avenues

2008-02-08 Thread wiseLYNX
Hi everybody, my quest to map Torino continues, and yesterday I was gratified by seeing the first update of the rendered map containing my work. I have a question though. Torino is full of wonderful wide avenues, with a central two way lane, and two one way lane on the sides. something like this