Re: [OSM-talk] tagging and rendering highways in the USA and elsewhere

Jeffrey Martin wrote: > I suppose we could switch to different tag values like 2ldr for "two > lane divided road with ramps". Do we need a whole new tag? The wrll tag > for "what road looks like"? Will changing > the tagging scheme increase data accuracy enough to make up for the hassle? You mi

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging and rendering highways in the USA and elsewhere

On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 2:05 AM, Peter Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks for that Jeffrey. I agree entirely that rendering should follow > tagging and not lead tagging, > > Am I right in thinking that the synthesis of this discussion is being > added to this wiki page? > > http://wiki.

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging and rendering highways in the USA and elsewhere

___ From: Jeffrey Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 April 2008 15:42 To: Peter Miller Cc: Talk Openstreetmap; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] tagging and rendering highways in the USA and elsewhere On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 1:15 AM, Peter Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging and rendering highways in the USA and elsewhere

Jeffrey Martin wrote: > I think free tagging is great, but we should not allow multiple > definitions for each tag. > A tag should not indicate both it's legal status and it's structure, > although one might > imply the other under certain circumstances. Well, that's an unfortunate fact of the 'hi

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging and rendering highways in the USA and elsewhere

On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 1:15 AM, Peter Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Major non-interstate highways that have traffic light free multi-level > junctions etc should be tagged as 'trunk' and possibly also be rendered > orange but with less grand route numbers to differentiate them from > inte

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging and rendering highways in the USA and elsewhere

On 19/04/2008, Jon Burgess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - not trying to do anything to account for ways which crossed over a > border. PostGIS can generate clipped geometries while doing the > processing but I did not try this [1]. That's not the cause anyway - the motorway ends, with a break

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging and rendering highways in the USA and elsewhere

On Sat, 2008-04-19 at 19:57 +0100, Dermot McNally wrote: > On 18/04/2008, Jon Burgess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >From a purely functional perspective this approach seems to work. The > > screenshot below shows what happens if you ask for the motorways in > > Ireland to be rendered in pur

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging and rendering highways in the USA and elsewhere

On 18/04/2008, Jon Burgess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >From a purely functional perspective this approach seems to work. The > screenshot below shows what happens if you ask for the motorways in > Ireland to be rendered in purple: > > http://tile.openstreetmap.org/direct/country-mways-example

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging and rendering highways in the USA and elsewhere

On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Robert (Jamie) Munro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hopefully we won't need a separate tileserver for each rendering style - > 1 server should be able to render more than one style at a time at > different URLs. I am led to believe that mod_tile cannot currently >

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging and rendering highways in the USA and elsewhere

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jo wrote: | Robert (Jamie) Munro schreef: |> |> When I look at the USA, I want interstates to be blue. When an American |> looks at the UK, they want to see motorways to be a colour other than |> blue, because then they will understand instinctively wh

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging and rendering highways in the USA and elsewhere

Robert (Jamie) Munro schreef: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Tom Hughes wrote: > | In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > | Peter Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > |> If we can agree on the rendering rules and get both Mapnik and osmarender > |> sorted out for the USA t

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging and rendering highways in the USA and elsewhere

On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Tom Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > "Adam Schreiber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 12:33 PM, Tom Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The problem is that we do not have the technology to

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging and rendering highways in the USA and elsewhere

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tom Hughes wrote: | In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | Peter Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: |> If we can agree on the rendering rules and get both Mapnik and osmarender |> sorted out for the USA then people will be incentivised to tag |> appr

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging and rendering highways in the USA and elsewhere

On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 21:57 +0100, Jon Burgess wrote: > It should then be possible to include fips_cntry as a filter in the > osm.xml. >From a purely functional perspective this approach seems to work. The screenshot below shows what happens if you ask for the motorways in Ireland to be rendered

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging and rendering highways in the USA and elsewhere

Hi, > I really don't mind what the rendered colours are, that is for local > discussion and there may even be multiple versions with different styles > as far as I am concerned Agree. > but currently the rendering is uk-centric Which comes as no surprise given that the project was started in t

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging and rendering highways in the USA and elsewhere

On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 20:02 +0100, Tom Hughes wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Jon Burgess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Provided we have the polygons describing the boundaries of countries, > > states etc then we could tag the data during the osm2pgsql processing. > > Alter

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging and rendering highways in the USA and elsewhere

On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 9:02 PM, Tom Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was thinking about that while I was walking home earlier. The > main question I guess is how efficient PostGIS is at answering > the question "which of these N hundred polygons is this data > in", or how efficiently we c

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging and rendering highways in the USA and elsewhere

On Friday 18 April 2008 21:23:47 Peter Miller wrote: > The answer is that OSM's currently > colour scheme seems to be that it is UK imperialism! > > For interest, here are some colours using by Google maps around the world > I would suggest we have a default of orange for top-level roads everywher

[OSM-talk] tagging and rendering highways in the USA and elsewhere

> Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:44:49 -0400 > From: "Adam Schreiber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] tagging and rendering highways in the USA and > elsewhere > To: "Tom Hughes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org &

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging and rendering highways in the USA and elsewhere

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jon Burgess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Provided we have the polygons describing the boundaries of countries, > states etc then we could tag the data during the osm2pgsql processing. > Alternatively it might be possible for Mapnik to query them at run time

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging and rendering highways in the USA and elsewhere

On Friday 18 April 2008 19:25:37 Peter Miller wrote: > I hope I didn't come across as aggressive, but I did want to point out some > really weird inconsistencies that do need to be resolved and wanted to > encourage debate. In the UK a secondary roads is a minor road, in San > Francisco this >

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging and rendering highways in the USA and elsewhere

On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 19:14 +0100, Tom Hughes wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > "Adam Schreiber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 12:33 PM, Tom Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The problem is that we do not have the technology to render different

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging and rendering highways in the USA and elsewhere

On Friday 18 April 2008 19:14:22 Tom Hughes wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > "Adam Schreiber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 12:33 PM, Tom Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The problem is that we do not have the technology to render different > >

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging and rendering highways in the USA and elsewhere

ally update the tags from 'highway=residential' to 'highway=trunk' (or whatever is agreed). Regards, Peter > -Original Message----- > From: Andy Allan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 18 April 2008 17:38 > To: Peter Miller > Cc: Talk Openst

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging and rendering highways in the USA and elsewhere

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ben Laenen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday 18 April 2008, Tom Hughes wrote: > > > If we can agree on the rendering rules and get both Mapnik and > > > osmarender sorted out for the USA then people will be incentivised > > > to tag appropriately. The

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging and rendering highways in the USA and elsewhere

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Adam Schreiber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 12:33 PM, Tom Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The problem is that we do not have the technology to render different > > countries in different ways. I don't believe we even know o

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging and rendering highways in the USA and elsewhere

On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Frederik Ramm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > > > Shouldn't this be as easy as adding a tag indicating country and > > altering the stylesheet to say highway=motorway country=us => > > color=yellow, highway=motorway country=uk => color=blue? > > Complete wi

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging and rendering highways in the USA and elsewhere

Hi, > Who decides what colours are used on the main maps? I.e. who actually > decided that motorways should be blue, and trunks should be green, how > railways are rendered etc.? > > Say I'd like to see railways rendered differently in the [EMAIL PROTECTED] > maps, where > should I ask? Is th

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging and rendering highways in the USA and elsewhere

Hi, > Shouldn't this be as easy as adding a tag indicating country and > altering the stylesheet to say highway=motorway country=us => > color=yellow, highway=motorway country=uk => color=blue? Complete with the ability to have US motorways in the UK, yay! Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eM

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging and rendering highways in the USA and elsewhere

On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 12:33 PM, Tom Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The problem is that we do not have the technology to render different > countries in different ways. I don't believe we even know of an efficient > way to do it, so we don't even know what the technology would look like >

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging and rendering highways in the USA and elsewhere

On Friday 18 April 2008, Tom Hughes wrote: > > If we can agree on the rendering rules and get both Mapnik and > > osmarender sorted out for the USA then people will be incentivised > > to tag appropriately. The moto 'render and they will come' probably > > applies here as elsewhere. > > Agreeing on

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging and rendering highways in the USA and elsewhere

> If we can agree on the rendering rules and get both Mapnik and osmarender > sorted out for the USA "sorted out" - they both work fine. Even if we had a production-ready mechanism for country-specific rendering, it would still be a matter of opinion, or more accurately, a matter of cartographic s

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging and rendering highways in the USA and elsewhere

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Peter Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The state roads are currently tagged on OSM variously with trunk (green) > primary (red) and secondary (orange). Some pretty major roads a tagged with > secondary (actually a very lowly road class in the UK below moto

[OSM-talk] tagging and rendering highways in the USA and elsewhere

It would be good to get a resolution of the issue of highway classification and rendering in the USA. The San Francisco area is getting into a pretty good state now, and could act as an 'exemplar' area for the USA should