Re: [OSM-talk] Danger zone for pedestrians

2018-03-05 Thread Richard
On Mon, Mar 05, 2018 at 01:35:41PM +, Andy Townsend wrote: > On 05/03/2018 11:49, Richard wrote: > >this one problem could be (somewhat) solved by conditional restrictions, > > No, this is not an access restriction - people are allowed to go there > whenever they like; it might just not be

Re: [OSM-talk] Danger zone for pedestrians

2018-03-05 Thread Andy Townsend
On 05/03/2018 11:49, Richard wrote: this one problem could be (somewhat) solved by conditional restrictions, No, this is not an access restriction - people are allowed to go there whenever they like; it might just not be advisable. I'd be against mapping non-quantifiable risks like this

Re: [OSM-talk] Danger zone for pedestrians

2018-03-05 Thread Richard
On Mon, Mar 05, 2018 at 12:19:19PM +, Ben Oliver wrote: > Surely then that is enough and we shouldn't need to flag 'dangerous' areas? many other things can also be decuded like this and we still prefer to tag them explicitly. If someone wants to tag it I am against disallowing it for

Re: [OSM-talk] Danger zone for pedestrians

2018-03-05 Thread Ben Oliver
On 18-03-05 13:00:10, Richard wrote: On Mon, Mar 05, 2018 at 11:10:40AM +0100, Tom Pfeifer wrote: Besides the verifiability problem, such tagging would discriminate one demographic group against another, and increase the cultural bias in OSM. where does such political correctness end?

Re: [OSM-talk] Danger zone for pedestrians

2018-03-05 Thread Richard
On Mon, Mar 05, 2018 at 11:10:40AM +0100, Tom Pfeifer wrote: > Besides the verifiability problem, such tagging would discriminate one > demographic group against another, and increase the cultural bias in OSM. where does such political correctness end? Consider that mapping brothels,

Re: [OSM-talk] Danger zone for pedestrians

2018-03-05 Thread Richard
On Sun, Mar 04, 2018 at 11:23:27PM -0600, Rodrigo Rodríguez wrote: > I know I could map if the streets are well iluminated or how is their > surface, but that's not enough to what happens on those streets (gangs > and violence, for example). I could also use the class=bicycle tag and > "hack" a

Re: [OSM-talk] Danger zone for pedestrians

2018-03-05 Thread Tom Pfeifer
On 27.02.2018 12:58, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Mapping perceived danger has been discussed some years ago, and AFAIR wasn't considered to be verifiable. Tried to find the discussion but couldn't, you might try yourself with your favorite search engine. It was on the tagging list, see the

Re: [OSM-talk] Danger zone for pedestrians

2018-03-05 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2018-03-05 7:57 GMT+01:00 Maarten Deen : > On 2018-03-05 06:23, Rodrigo Rodríguez wrote: > >> These are sort of the things I would appreciate I could be able to >> map in OSM. Even with the subjective point of view that might >> represent to tag a way as insecure or not, it is

Re: [OSM-talk] Danger zone for pedestrians

2018-03-04 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2018-03-05 06:23, Rodrigo Rodríguez wrote: These are sort of the things I would appreciate I could be able to map in OSM. Even with the subjective point of view that might represent to tag a way as insecure or not, it is easily achievable to determine a way or schema in wich you could

Re: [OSM-talk] Danger zone for pedestrians

2018-03-04 Thread Rodrigo Rodríguez
These are sort of the things I would appreciate I could be able to map in OSM. Even with the subjective point of view that might represent to tag a way as insecure or not, it is easily achievable to determine a way or schema in wich you could identify wether a street is safe to walk or pass

Re: [OSM-talk] Danger zone for pedestrians

2018-02-27 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Mapping perceived danger has been discussed some years ago, and AFAIR wasn't considered to be verifiable. Tried to find the discussion but couldn't, you might try yourself with your favorite search engine. Cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing list