Re: [OSM-talk] i18n-rich areas on the map

2009-07-30 Thread Ed Avis
Emilie Laffray gmail.com> writes: >>For example the Imperial Palace in Tokyo would have >> >>name:en=Imperial Palace >>name:jp Romaji=koukyo >>name:jp=?? >However, I do believe that translitteration >is worthy of appearing in name:en when none exists. I agree that when no real Engl

Re: [OSM-talk] i18n-rich areas on the map

2009-07-29 Thread Woll Newall
Emilie, If you are going to add machine-created romaji transliterations, then I strongly suggest that you put them into name:jp_rm (as given in the Japanese mappers' specification above) and do not put them into name:en. See: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Japan_tagging#Names Using name:j

Re: [OSM-talk] i18n-rich areas on the map

2009-07-29 Thread Emilie Laffray
Ed Avis wrote: > This is not really name:en, more like name:j...@romaji. > > For example the Imperial Palace in Tokyo would have > > name:en=Imperial Palace > name:j...@romaji=koukyo > name:jp=?? > > Similar considerations apply to countries with more than one alphabet, for > example >

Re: [OSM-talk] i18n-rich areas on the map

2009-07-28 Thread Emilie Laffray
Mikel Maron wrote: > Very good point, and feature suggestion. > > I've started a wiki page on this project. Please contribute! > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Translation_Interface Hello, one of the thing that I am working on (at least initially on design) is a translation website, as I

Re: [OSM-talk] i18n-rich areas on the map

2009-07-28 Thread Mikel Maron
ebler ; talk@openstreetmap.org; David Sasaki Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 4:24:00 AM Subject: RE: [OSM-talk] i18n-rich areas on the map Not all map features need translating in the same way. For now, let's assume that only the 'name' tag will be translated, since that is about

Re: [OSM-talk] i18n-rich areas on the map

2009-07-27 Thread Stefan Baebler
Very nice! What i miss is getting a bigger map. If there is a thumbnail map embedded into an article people would normally click it in order to see the map in better detail (normally on a bigger map), not to navigate in a thumbnail sized slippy map. There needs to be some intuitive way to switch f

Re: [OSM-talk] i18n-rich areas on the map

2009-07-27 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 6:12 PM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: > On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 4:37 PM, Ed Avis wrote: >> Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason gmail.com> writes: >> >>>http://cassini.toolserver.org/browse-fr.html >>>http://cassini.toolserver.org/browse-nl.html > > The rest are now up at http://cassi

Re: [OSM-talk] i18n-rich areas on the map

2009-07-25 Thread Subhodip Biswas
Hi! On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 8:22 AM, Mikel Maron wrote: > There's a huge community of translators on the web. OpenStreetMap can work > with them directly. > > Wikipedia, Global Voices, Meedan, and many more working on content. > Ubuntu, Fedora, OpenOffice, and many many more working on software.

Re: [OSM-talk] i18n-rich areas on the map

2009-07-24 Thread Mikel Maron
From: Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason > > On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 4:58 AM, Stefan Baebler > wrote: > > Are there any further plans to translate the maps based on wikipedia data? > > Would that various names be better imported into main OSM db or just > > into the DB for rendering? > > Will this transla

Re: [OSM-talk] i18n-rich areas on the map

2009-07-24 Thread Mikel Maron
From: Shaun McDonald > On 23 Jul 2009, at 09:17, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: > > > On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 11:34 PM, 80n<80n...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> ti...@home uses this technique of a basemap with no captions and a text > >> layer for lowzoom tiles (z1 through z6) . Currently they ar

Re: [OSM-talk] i18n-rich areas on the map

2009-07-23 Thread Cartinus
On Thursday 23 July 2009 11:09:32 Shaun McDonald wrote: > On 23 Jul 2009, at 09:17, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: > > Yeah it would be neat to render a captionless layer in mapnik and then > > overlay text on it. > > > > Can mapnik support that? I'd have thought adding any sort of text to > > the

Re: [OSM-talk] i18n-rich areas on the map

2009-07-23 Thread Lennard
Shaun McDonald wrote: >> Yeah it would be neat to render a captionless layer in mapnik and then >> overlay text on it. >> >> Can mapnik support that? I'd have thought adding any sort of text to >> the map might have implications for the rendering itself. >> > The problem is being able to do the tex

Re: [OSM-talk] i18n-rich areas on the map

2009-07-23 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 23 Jul 2009, at 09:17, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 11:34 PM, 80n<80n...@gmail.com> wrote: ti...@home uses this technique of a basemap with no captions and a text layer for lowzoom tiles (z1 through z6) . Currently they are combined on the server to create a c

Re: [OSM-talk] i18n-rich areas on the map

2009-07-23 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 4:58 AM, Stefan Baebler wrote: > Are there any further plans to translate the maps based on wikipedia data? > Would that various names be better imported into main OSM db or just > into the DB for rendering? > Will this translation be done based only on language links in exi

Re: [OSM-talk] i18n-rich areas on the map

2009-07-23 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 11:34 PM, 80n<80n...@gmail.com> wrote: > ti...@home uses this technique of a basemap with no captions and a text > layer  for lowzoom tiles (z1 through z6) .  Currently they are combined on > the server to create a composite image using some GD library I think.  This > seems

Re: [OSM-talk] i18n-rich areas on the map

2009-07-22 Thread Stefan Baebler
Looks very nice! Are there any further plans to translate the maps based on wikipedia data? Would that various names be better imported into main OSM db or just into the DB for rendering? Will this translation be done based only on language links in existing articles or also based on lists of exon

Re: [OSM-talk] i18n-rich areas on the map

2009-07-22 Thread 80n
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 8:48 PM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: > On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 7:08 PM, Mikel Maron wrote: > >> The rest are now up at http://cassini.toolserver.org/tile-browse/ > > > > These are great!! > > (though I think we may just have crashed your renderd with loads of > > request

Re: [OSM-talk] i18n-rich areas on the map

2009-07-22 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 7:08 PM, Mikel Maron wrote: >> The rest are now up at http://cassini.toolserver.org/tile-browse/ > > These are great!! > (though I think we may just have crashed your renderd with loads of > requests) That was part of the plan:) Let's see how it does with added caching thou

Re: [OSM-talk] i18n-rich areas on the map

2009-07-22 Thread Mikel Maron
From: Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason > The rest are now up at http://cassini.toolserver.org/tile-browse/ These are great!! (though I think we may just have crashed your renderd with loads of requests) I realize this is just a proof of concept, but is this general

Re: [OSM-talk] i18n-rich areas on the map

2009-07-22 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 4:37 PM, Ed Avis wrote: > Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason gmail.com> writes: > >>http://cassini.toolserver.org/browse-fr.html >>http://cassini.toolserver.org/browse-nl.html The rest are now up at http://cassini.toolserver.org/tile-browse/ > This is very cool.  I note that a lot o

Re: [OSM-talk] i18n-rich areas on the map

2009-07-22 Thread Ed Avis
Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason gmail.com> writes: >http://cassini.toolserver.org/browse-fr.html >http://cassini.toolserver.org/browse-nl.html This is very cool. I note that a lot of the tiles are the same, so the disk space requirement wouldn't be too impossible. Do you plan to support 'my main langu

Re: [OSM-talk] i18n-rich areas on the map

2009-07-22 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 1:25 AM, Aude (Kate) wrote: > I recommend using OSM data for Brussels, Belgium to test multilingual > rendering.  The street signs there have street names in both French > and Dutch.  Likewise, the OSM data contains name:fr and name:nl tags > for street names. Thanks everyo

Re: [OSM-talk] i18n-rich areas on the map

2009-07-22 Thread OJ W
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 11:05 PM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: > What areas on the OSM map are especially rich in "name:$code" tags for > different languages? Preferably down to street level. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Sample_areas#Languages

Re: [OSM-talk] i18n-rich areas on the map

2009-07-21 Thread Marc Coevoet
Aude (Kate) schreef: > I recommend using OSM data for Brussels, Belgium to test multilingual > rendering. The street signs there have street names in both French > and Dutch. Likewise, the OSM data contains name:fr and name:nl tags > for street names. > > I've been in Southern France and saw

Re: [OSM-talk] i18n-rich areas on the map

2009-07-21 Thread Aude (Kate)
I recommend using OSM data for Brussels, Belgium to test multilingual rendering. The street signs there have street names in both French and Dutch. Likewise, the OSM data contains name:fr and name:nl tags for street names. -Kate On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 6:05 PM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: >

Re: [OSM-talk] i18n-rich areas on the map

2009-07-21 Thread Aun Johnsen (via Webmail)
On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 22:05:40 +, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: > I'm doing some experiments with multilingular rendering (for deploying > on Wikimedia sites, see Maps-l) but I'm lacking good test data. > > What areas on the OSM map are especially rich in "name:$code" tags for > different lang