Re: [OSM-talk] Call to Take Action and Confront Systemic Offensive Behavior in the OSM Community

2020-12-10 Thread Blake Girardot
Hi Celine, Thank you and your collaborators for taking the time to write this document and thank you all for posting it to our community. My greatest hope is that people will read it and really make an effort to hear what you and others have been saying for a long time. Hopefully, it keeps the

Re: [Talk-at] PLZ und Ortsvorwahlen von Österreich

2020-12-10 Thread blank via Talk-at
Er hat das ganze mit OpenStreetDaten umgesetzt, das reicht doch. Zum Glück hast du nichts zu sagen, was hier geschrieben werden darf und was nicht. Vor allem hat dieses Projekt offensichtlich auch die Zustimmung der anderen gefunden. (Ich finds übrigens auch cool @Philipp Kolmann ) Aber danke

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Call to Take Action and Confront Systemic Offensive Behavior in the OSM Community

2020-12-10 Thread Heather Leson
Good morning As Celine mentioned, we are a coalition of people who want change in OSMF and OSM. Our statement clearly states that we are willing to work with OSMF (working groups, board, membership) and OSM (community, project and network). This means collaboration with the local chapters and

Re: [Talk-at] PLZ und Ortsvorwahlen von Österreich

2020-12-10 Thread Rudolf Mayer
Hallo, On 10/12/2020 06:35, Johann Haag wrote: Am Mi., 9. Dez. 2020 um 18:43 Uhr schrieb Philipp Kolmann via Talk-at mailto:talk-at@openstreetmap.org>>: Liebe Leute, danke für die aufmunternden Worte. Hab erst mal die ersten Mails verdauen müssen. Hallo Phillip, entschuldige

Re: [Talk-at] PLZ und Ortsvorwahlen von Österreich

2020-12-10 Thread Friedrich Volkmann
On 10.12.20 09:49, blank via Talk-at wrote: Aber danke für den Hinweis, wiedermal auf deine Changesets ein Auge zu werfen. Was umgekehrt weniger gut geht, denn du trittst hier als "various" oder "blank" auf, und die gleichnamigen OSM-User haben 0 Edits. Also entweder kritisierst du ohne

Re: [Talk-at] Kartenhinweis ohne Ortsaugenschein aufgelöst

2020-12-10 Thread Stefan Tauner
On Thu, 10 Dec 2020 12:51:33 +0100 Florian Kratochwil wrote: > Am 09.12.20 um 13:28 schrieb Stefan Tauner via Talk-at: > > Ich spende 100 eur an die OSMF, wenn dort aktuell eine für unbestifelte > Fußgänger trocken überwindbare Brücke ist. :P > > > > Ich war heute dort. Die Mapillary-Fotos

Re: [Talk-at] Kartenhinweis ohne Ortsaugenschein aufgelöst

2020-12-10 Thread Friedrich Volkmann
On 10.12.20 12:51, Florian Kratochwil wrote: Bezüglich access: Also der Pfad und die Furt sowie die Stufen können vom Wald aus kommend problemlos erreicht werden ==> keine access-Einschränkung. Dann, oberhalb der Stufen wo es zum Highway=service kommt, ist ein ca. 1m-hoher Holzzaun mit einer

Re: [Talk-at] PLZ und Ortsvorwahlen von Österreich

2020-12-10 Thread Philipp Kolmann via Talk-at
Am 10.12.2020 um 06:35 schrieb Johann Haag: danke für die aufmunternden Worte. Hab erst mal die ersten Mails verdauen müssen. Hallo Phillip, entschuldige wenn meine Wortmeldung vielleicht zu forsch war. Ich finde Dein Projekt durchaus interessant, nur was hat dieses mit

Re: [Talk-at] Kartenhinweis ohne Ortsaugenschein aufgelöst

2020-12-10 Thread Stefan Tauner
On Thu, 10 Dec 2020 13:34:35 +0100 Friedrich Volkmann wrote: > Berechtigungen nur dann taggen, wenn welche angeschrieben sind. Ist hier > nicht der Fall => foot=permissive bitte weglassen. Wieso? Es ist ja offensichtlich so, dass das Privatgrund ist, aber momentan keine rechtliche

Re: [Talk-at] PLZ und Ortsvorwahlen von Österreich

2020-12-10 Thread andreas wecer
Am Do., 10. Dez. 2020 um 06:35 Uhr schrieb Johann Haag : > Du hast sicher bemerkt dass ich in Wien nun in OpenStreetMap, die > Telefonvorwahl eingetragen habe, auch Eine Region in Vorarlberg ist bereits > erfasst. > "onk" ist übrigens kein korrekter Tag, wenn dann onkz

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Call to Take Action and Confront Systemic Offensive Behavior in the OSM Community

2020-12-10 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Blake Girardot wrote: > I will just point out a common pattern: Céline posted an eloquent opening statement that talks about "this dominant profile" and the thread has, true to form, largely descended into the same dominant profile arguing and "just pointing out" things. It might therefore be

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Call to Take Action and Confront Systemic Offensive Behavior in the OSM Community

2020-12-10 Thread Blake Girardot
On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 7:54 AM Richard Fairhurst wrote: > > Blake Girardot wrote: > > I will just point out a common pattern: > > Céline posted an eloquent opening statement that talks about "this dominant > profile" and the thread has, true to form, largely descended into the same > dominant

Re: [Talk-at] Kartenhinweis ohne Ortsaugenschein aufgelöst

2020-12-10 Thread Friedrich Volkmann
On 10.12.20 15:09, Stefan Tauner wrote: Welchen Nachteil siehst du, wenn wir solche Fälle mit permissive taggen? Für den Anwender eher keine Nachteile. Aber man öffnet damit Pandoras Büchse. Wenn hier ein Weg, auf dem kein Verbot angeschrieben ist, als permissive getaggt werden soll, weil er

Re: [Talk-at] PLZ und Ortsvorwahlen von Österreich

2020-12-10 Thread blank via Talk-at
Auch, wenn das nicht in diesen Thread passt, möchte ich das doch beantworten: Ursprünglich habe ich das gemacht, weil Johann hier lustige und falsche Querverbindungen zwischen diversen Accounts und E-Mail-Adressen gemacht hat (und öffentlich zugänglich gemacht!), die teilweise einfach nicht mal

Re: [OSM-talk] Call to Take Action and Confront Systemic Offensive Behavior in the OSM Community

2020-12-10 Thread tilmanreinecke--- via talk
> The lack of discussion by non-men is an undeniable fact.Right, this is true. Sadly true. Something I also know from Linux Communities and other Open Source/Open Data Communities.> The simplest explanation for this is the systematic institutional hostility towards women in the OSM community.I did

Re: [OSM-talk] Call to Take Action and Confront Systemic Offensive Behavior in the OSM Community

2020-12-10 Thread Blake Girardot
On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 6:38 AM tilmanreinecke--- via talk wrote: > > > The lack of discussion by non-men is an undeniable fact. > > Right, this is true. Sadly true. Something I also know from Linux Communities > and other Open Source/Open Data Communities. > > > The simplest explanation for

Re: [OSM-talk] Call to Take Action and Confront Systemic Offensive Behavior in the OSM Community

2020-12-10 Thread James
> The lack of discussion by non-men is an undeniable fact. >Right, this is true. Sadly true. Something I also know from Linux Communities and other Open Source/Open Data Communities. Same in programming and IT fields, firefighters, mechanics, carpenters, construction workers, taxi drivers, etc

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Call to Take Action and Confront Systemic Offensive Behavior in the OSM Community

2020-12-10 Thread Lukasz Kruk
I have little new to offer that hasn't been posted in this thread before, but would like to say that singling out Frederik and his supposedly "dehumanizing message" as an offensive catalyst for a call to action? Not cool. I don't want to contribute to a cycle of outrage (though in some eyes I

Re: [OSM-talk] Call to Take Action and Confront Systemic Offensive Behavior in the OSM Community

2020-12-10 Thread Frederik Ramm
@all, I've posted a user diary about this, at https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/woodpeck/diary/395065, copied below for your convenience. Sorry / Bad choice of words Posted by woodpeck on 10 December 2020 in English (English). Hi, I’ve recently got some flak about a

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Call to Take Action and Confront Systemic Offensive Behavior in the OSM Community

2020-12-10 Thread Blake Girardot
On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 5:22 AM Thomas Barris via osmf-talk wrote: > Why do you think such an OSM project as you want it is desirable for the > majority of the community? I have signed up to this project to collect and > share free geodata. I am not in favour of using OSM(F) for distributing

Re: [OSM-talk] Call to Take Action and Confront Systemic Offensive Behavior in the OSM Community

2020-12-10 Thread Jiri Vlasak
For the ones who are interested in the whole discussion: - talk mailing list archive: - https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2020-December/085736.html - osmf-talk mailing list archive: - https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/osmf-talk/2020-December/007541.html -

Re: [OSM-talk] Call to Take Action and Confront Systemic Offensive Behavior in the OSM Community

2020-12-10 Thread Jiri Vlasak
My bad. This was meant to HOT mailing list [1]. Sorry. [1]: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/hot/2020-December/015409.html jiri ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [Talk-at] Kartenhinweis ohne Ortsaugenschein aufgelöst

2020-12-10 Thread Friedrich Volkmann
On 10.12.20 13:49, Stefan Tauner wrote: Berechtigungen nur dann taggen, wenn welche angeschrieben sind. Ist hier nicht der Fall => foot=permissive bitte weglassen. Wieso? Es ist ja offensichtlich so, dass das Privatgrund ist, aber momentan keine rechtliche Einschränkung für Fußgänger besteht,

Re: [OSM-talk] Call to Take Action and Confront Systemic Offensive Behavior in the OSM Community

2020-12-10 Thread arnalie faye vicario
Hello/kumusta, What an overwhelming response! This is my first time to email thru the global osm talk; it really takes true grit to join the conversations, huge thanks to the people who inspired me and sparked the flame. I will keep it short and redirect you to a (short) OSM Diary I wrote on

Re: [Talk-at] Kartenhinweis ohne Ortsaugenschein aufgelöst

2020-12-10 Thread Stefan Tauner
On Thu, 10 Dec 2020 14:44:44 +0100 Friedrich Volkmann wrote: > In OSM mappen wir keine Gesetze, sondern was wir vor Ort vorfinden. > > Ohne Insiderwissen wissen wir nicht, wo der Privatgrund anfängt Das Insiderwissen, das der Zaun und das Türl dort nicht in öffentlichem Besitz ist. "OK".

[OSM-talk] Call to Take Action and Confront Systemic Offensive Behavior in the OSM Community (Celine Jacquin)

2020-12-10 Thread Fabian Hernandez via talk
That document is despicable, promoting discrimination of some groups pretending to help others. Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 13:06:45 -0600 From: Celine Jacquin To: osmf-t...@openstreetmap.org, talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: [OSM-talk] Call to Take Action and Confront Systemic

[OSM-talk] Fwd: Call to Take Action and Confront Systemic Offensive Behavior in the OSM Community

2020-12-10 Thread Celine Jacquin
Hello everyone Thank you for your answers. And thanks for the supportive messages. I will give a general response, trying to cover all the points that I can extend, and trying to be clear despite my limited time and fluency in English. Above all, I would like you to become aware of the

Re: [OSM-talk] Call to Take Action and Confront Systemic Offensive Behavior in the OSM Community

2020-12-10 Thread Niels Elgaard Larsen
arnalie faye vicario: Hello/kumusta, What an overwhelming response! This is my first time to email thru the global osm talk; it really takes true grit to join the conversations, huge thanks to the people who inspired me and sparked the flame. I will keep it short and redirect you to a

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Fwd: Call to Take Action and Confront Systemic Offensive Behavior in the OSM Community

2020-12-10 Thread Kathleen Lu via talk
First, let me say that I do know Frederik personally, I have had pleasant dinners with him and hope to do so again post-pandemic. He has apologised for his poor choice of words, and I accept his apology. The volume of attacks and hostile tone against Celine in reaction to the document she shared

Re: [OSM-talk] Call to Take Action and Confront Systemic Offensive Behavior in the OSM Community

2020-12-10 Thread Yves via talk
Niels, Arnalielsewhere post wasn't about mapping, the map is used to illustrate something. I agree with others comments pledging for more time to be taken to read someone else's lines. Yves___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-at] Kartenhinweis ohne Ortsaugenschein aufgelöst

2020-12-10 Thread Friedrich Volkmann
On 10.12.20 19:27, Florian Kratochwil wrote: Was ist überhaupt der default-access-Wert für barrier=gate? Habe das auf die schnelle nicht gefunden. Erst mal muss man sich fragen, was access-Tags auf barriers überhaupt bedeuten sollen. Wer das Türl öffnen und schließen darf, oder wer durchgehen

Re: [Talk-at] PLZ und Ortsvorwahlen von Österreich

2020-12-10 Thread Johann Haag
Am Do., 10. Dez. 2020 um 13:53 Uhr schrieb Philipp Kolmann via Talk-at < talk-at@openstreetmap.org>: > > > Am 10.12.2020 um 06:35 schrieb Johann Haag: > > danke für die aufmunternden Worte. Hab erst mal die ersten Mails >> verdauen müssen. >> > Hallo Phillip, entschuldige wenn meine

Re: [Talk-at] Kartenhinweis ohne Ortsaugenschein aufgelöst

2020-12-10 Thread Florian Kratochwil
Am 10.12.20 um 13:35 schrieb Stefan Tauner: Inwiefern findest du, dass das permissive nicht korrekt ist? Ich denke nicht, dass es dafür ein besseres Tagging gibt bzw. anders gesagt, ich würde behaupten, dass das in Österreich genau das Richtige ist. Ich glaube eh, dass permissive das richtige

Re: [Talk-at] Gefahr durch Internet-Bergrouten

2020-12-10 Thread Robert Grübler
Am 09.12.2020 schrieb Friedrich Volkmann: > Wie ich schon tausendmal geschrieben habe, gibt es zwischen > Wandern und Klettern keine klare Trennlinie. : > Natürlich ist dritter Grad kein Wanderweg, aber die Grenze > fix zwischen 2 und 3 anzusetzen finde ich zu unelastisch : > Demnach dürften wir

Re: [OSM-talk] Call to Take Action and Confront Systemic Offensive Behavior in the OSM Community

2020-12-10 Thread Midgard
This whole thread caused me great distress on account of some messages I saw that came across as polarizing. The reason I would be discouraged from joining OSM discussion right now would be hostility and passive aggressive bickering. And this is among people who I suppose all mean the best for

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Fwd: Call to Take Action and Confront Systemic Offensive Behavior in the OSM Community

2020-12-10 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via talk
Dec 10, 2020, 22:46 by matkoni...@tutanota.com: > (3) > If girls are from young age discouraged from being interested in > maps/geography/volunteering/etc then it is going to help > in lower participation in projects for people interested in maps. > "If girls are from young age discouraged from

[Talk-it] Laguna di Venezia verso Chioggia zona davanti Codevigo

2020-12-10 Thread Peppe via Talk-it
Osservando la mappa della zona ho osservato una possibile problematica in laguna con la zona ricoperta interamente d'acqua e alcune strade sembrano sommerse. Non essendomi mai occupato di landuse marini segnalo la cosa nel caso qualcuno di più esperto possa controllare.

Re: [Talk-it] Eliminazioni massive del tratto A31 Nord

2020-12-10 Thread Peppe via Talk-it
Ho visto le note posizionate lungo quanto ha cancellato... praticamente contesta chi aveva inserito in costruzione la Valdastico nord però così facendo ha cancellato parte dello svincolo di Piovene che c'è già. Sulla questione del proseguo a nord dipende se c'è progetto approvato e inizio dei

Re: [Talk-at] Kartenhinweis ohne Ortsaugenschein aufgelöst

2020-12-10 Thread Stefan Tauner
On Thu, 10 Dec 2020 16:09:13 +0100 Friedrich Volkmann wrote: > On 10.12.20 15:09, Stefan Tauner wrote: > > Welchen Nachteil siehst du, wenn wir solche Fälle mit permissive taggen? > Für den Anwender eher keine Nachteile. Aber man öffnet damit Pandoras > Büchse. Wenn hier ein Weg, auf dem kein

Re: [OSM-talk] Call to Take Action and Confront Systemic Offensive Behavior in the OSM Community

2020-12-10 Thread Andrew Hain
The big problem I have with this manifesto is that it brings divisive North American attitudes to a worldwide project. As a worldwide project, building a community of mappers from the whole world is our most important single diversity objective. That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t encourage other

Re: [Talk-it] Eliminazioni massive del tratto A31 Nord

2020-12-10 Thread Peppe via Talk-it
Penso sia da fare un revert... Per il tracciato non so se ci sia quello definitivo, ma dalla risposta penso sia qualcuno che voglia solo protestare... giovedì, 10 dicembre 2020, 11:22PM +01:00 da Matteo Zaffonato zaff...@gmail.com : >Ciao a tutti, >nei giorni scorsi ho notato alcune

Re: [Talk-it] Eliminazioni massive del tratto A31 Nord

2020-12-10 Thread Davide Sandona'
E' una questione complessa. Negli ultimi mesi l'utente xDeamon si è occupato di inserire su OSM diversi percorsi stradali attualmente in fase di progettazione, quali l'A31 Nord, segnalandoli con gli opportuni tag "construction". Una decina di giorni fa ho provato a contattarlo via messaggio

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Call to Take Action and Confront Systemic Offensive Behavior in the OSM Community

2020-12-10 Thread Heather Leson
Thank you to the board for listening to our appeal. I look forward to collaborating on the next steps. Heather On Fri, 11 Dec 2020, 04:57 Allan Mustard, wrote: > To the OSM and OSMF communities: > > I convey the following information on behalf of the Board of Directors of > the OpenStreetMap

Re: [Talk-it] Laguna di Venezia verso Chioggia davanti Codevigo lungo la Romea

2020-12-10 Thread Volker Schmidt
E' un vecchio problema nella Laguna che alcuni pezzi della coast line non sono corrette. L'avevo segnalato anni in dietro. Virus-free. www.avast.com

[Talk-it] Laguna di Venezia verso Chioggia davanti Codevigo lungo la Romea

2020-12-10 Thread Peppe via Talk-it
Osservando la mappa della zona ho osservato una possibile problematica in laguna con la zona ricoperta interamente d'acqua e alcune strade sembrano sommerse. Non essendomi mai occupato di landuse marini segnalo la cosa nel caso qualcuno di più esperto possa controllare.

[Talk-it] Eliminazioni massive del tratto A31 Nord

2020-12-10 Thread Matteo Zaffonato
Ciao a tutti, nei giorni scorsi ho notato alcune cancellazioni massive del tratto autostradale riportato nell'oggetto. I changeset coinvolti sono: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/95382919 https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/95382753 https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/95382323

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Fwd: Call to Take Action and Confront Systemic Offensive Behavior in the OSM Community

2020-12-10 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via talk
Dec 10, 2020, 20:58 by talk@openstreetmap.org: > Underrepresentation of women and gender minorities, racial > underrepresentation, geographic underrepresentation, these are all > symptoms. If OSM did not systematically exclude these groups, these > groups would not be underrepresented. > It is

Re: [Talk-at] Kartenhinweis ohne Ortsaugenschein aufgelöst

2020-12-10 Thread Stefan Tauner
On Thu, 10 Dec 2020 19:27:03 +0100 Florian Kratochwil wrote: >> viele dieser Einfahrten sind mit service=alley getaggt. Sollte >> eigentlich service=driveway sein, wie es bei einigen anderen eh schon >> ist, oder? > > Nein, diese Wege sind nicht alle gleich. Ich denke, dass das schon so >

Re: [Talk-it] Eliminazioni massive del tratto A31 Nord

2020-12-10 Thread Peppe via Talk-it
Concordo con Davide pure io ho trovato qualche modifica futuristica di xDeamon diciamo discutibile o quantomeno da riportare a tutti prima di farla. Se sono state cancellate strade esistenti cmq vanno ripristinate giovedì, 10 dicembre 2020, 11:40PM +01:00 da Davide Sandona

Re: [OSM-talk] Call to Take Action and Confront Systemic Offensive Behavior in the OSM Community

2020-12-10 Thread Emily Eros
I wholeheartedly support an enforceable Code of Conduct for the mailing lists and other global OSM spaces. I'm not going to write 3,000 words on this. Others have already made these points. But for the sake of adding one more female voice to this thread, plain and simple: - Violent language is

[OSM-talk] Call to Take Action and Confront Systemic Offensive Behavior in the OSM Community

2020-12-10 Thread Fabian Hernandez via talk
For a community to be resilient, resilient individuals are required. Those who are offended by everything only contribute to lessening the resistance of the community. Those who group by collectives only crush the first minority, the individual. Meritocracy should be the form of government,

Re: [talk-cz] Změny v mapě pro ochranu přírody

2020-12-10 Thread Miroslav Suchy
Dne 09. 12. 20 v 17:45 Antonin Tuma via talk-cz napsal(a): > Dobrý den, > > obracíme se na vás jako na provozovatele mapy OpenStreetMap. > Pracuji na tom - ve smyslu "mapujeme on the ground rule" a přidávám tagy access=no. Dnes dopoledne pošlu oficiální odpověď (sem v kopii). Mirek

Re: [talk-cz] Změny v mapě pro ochranu přírody

2020-12-10 Thread Vladan Kudláč
Zdravím, velkou a velmi rušivou nelegální návštěvnost asi nejjednodušeji vyřeší osazení informativních a zákazových značek přímo v terénu. Smazání cest se dá zrealizovat, pokud se skutečně v terénu nenacházejí. Mazání názvů objektů je ale proti principům OSM. Je to mapování pro render a navíc

Re: [talk-cz] Změny v mapě pro ochranu přírody

2020-12-10 Thread Vladan Kudláč
Ahoj, asi jsem měl poznamenat, že má odpověď byla směřována pouze sem do fóra. Oficiální odpověď nechám na zkušenějších. -- Vladan Kudláč Dne čt 10. 12. 2020 9:38 uživatel Miroslav Suchy napsal: > Dne 09. 12. 20 v 17:45 Antonin Tuma via talk-cz napsal(a): > > Dobrý den, > > > > obracíme se na

Re: [Talk-dk] 2 minus 1 vej

2020-12-10 Thread Lars Gravengaard
Hvad med at angive vejbreden til mål mellem de stiplede streger? Så kan ruteberegningen måske vælge en anden rute / se at ruten tager længere tid. Mvh Lars Bloch Gravengaard tor. d. 10. dec. 2020 07.05 skrev : > Jeg køber Mikko's forslag. > > Vejdirektoratet & COWI definerer vejtypen således:

Re: [talk-cz] Změny v mapě pro ochranu přírody

2020-12-10 Thread Tom Ka
To vypada, jako by jsi to mel soucasti te svoji prednasky - tezko najit ucebnicovejsi priklad vandalismu nez je tahle organizace, ktera umi jen narizovat a zakazovat vsem kolem sebe. A to vydirani, ze kdyz jim vyjdeme vstric, tak nam mozna daji nejaka data, to uz je jen potvrzeni jejich zpusobu

[talk-cz] Odpověď: Váš příspěvek do konference talk-cz čeká na schválení moderátorem

2020-12-10 Thread Antonin Tuma via talk-cz
Dobrý den, budete-li vstřícní k požadavkům ochrany přírody, pak vám nabízíme z území naší působnosti různé opravy chyb, které jsme zjistili, a aktualizace vaší mapy (máte zastaralé údaje třeba k hranicícm zvláště chráněných území). S pozdravem RNDr. Antonín Tůma neživá příroda, strážní služba

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Tag tourism=alpine_hut

2020-12-10 Thread FR via Talk-fr
Bonjour Si vous faites la même type de requête à propos de "natural=glacier" vous allez en trouver 3 dans un angle du vieux-port de Marseille. En fait il s'agit d'un marchand de glaces, mais, 1000 excuses pardon c'est pas sérieux, ça m'a tellement amusée que j'espérais que qq1 d'autre

Re: [talk-cz] Změny v mapě pro ochranu přírody

2020-12-10 Thread Miroslav Suchy
Dne 09. 12. 20 v 17:45 Antonin Tuma via talk-cz napsal(a): > Dobrý den, > > obracíme se na vás jako na provozovatele mapy OpenStreetMap. > > Velmi bychom vás prosili o některé změny v mapě, jelikož údaje resp. značky v > mapě navádějí veřejnost do míst, která > jsou jí z důvodu ochrany přírody

[OSM-talk-fr] Des nouvelles de Qwant

2020-12-10 Thread Donat ROBAUX
Salut, Je viens de tomber sur un article parlant de Qwant. Bonne nouvelle pour Qwant Maps qui n'est pas abandonné et qui fait même maintenant partie du cœur du réacteur de Qwant. https://www.20minutes.fr/high-tech/2924619-20201210-qwant-recentre-ur-reacteur-moteur-recherche-explique-pdg Donat

[OSRM-talk] need help to use

2020-12-10 Thread lord Mash
hello i want to use your service in my program. may you lead me ? ___ OSRM-talk mailing list OSRM-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osrm-talk

[OSRM-talk] integrate the public transport service (bus) inside the profile foot.lua

2020-12-10 Thread simone zanda
Hi everyone , My name’s Simone Zanda i am trying to integrate the public transport service inside the profile foot.lua, (foot + bus) in process_way(profile, way, result,relation_data) I can find all the ways that have the relation I thought I would change the mode.walking to mode.driving

[OSRM-talk] Comparing routes from different datasets

2020-12-10 Thread Martin Schmidl
Hi, In a project of mine i am using OSM data from a city for 7 different years. Recent data from 2020 acts as the reference. I want to see how different changes in the data will affect the routing for quality reasons (e.g: If i used data from 2014 today, will my route be better or worse?). For

[OSRM-talk] Route with optimize waypoints

2020-12-10 Thread Milan Hokr
Hello I am working on a route planning application and I would like to used your REST API, but I need to know if your API allows you to plan route, so that i enter start and end of the route, waypoints of up to 80 in the request. The start and end of the route + waypoints will be in Lat Lon

[OSRM-talk] Something wrong on API

2020-12-10 Thread Jan Pauka
Hi, i'm a Brazilian student and developer, i'm just testing the router machine and all of coordinates show me on the same point on the map. Problem with your service? If need a help to test, count on me. Sorry, my english is poor. Jan Pauka -- Este email foi escaneado pelo Avast

[OSRM-talk] OSRM API Address

2020-12-10 Thread Kirtzic, Steven via OSRM-talk
Hi, I’m currently working on a project with OSRM and I’m moving it to another environment that is a lot more secure, so I need to request access for the OSRM API to be able to reach out to the external Internet. Can someone tell me what address(es)/site(s) I need to have made available for the

[OSRM-talk] Freebsd install of osrm-backend

2020-12-10 Thread Jeff Carroll
Hi, Is there any documentation on how to install this on FreeBSD 12? I'm trying to follow the Ubuntu install to no avail. Thanks. Jeff Carroll DTI/Sudenga Industries, Inc. IT Director Web: http://www.sudenga.com Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/SudengaIndustries

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Tag pour une commande par téléphone ou internet 48h avant le retrait

2020-12-10 Thread emeric Prouteau
Merci pour vos retours Bonne journée, Le mar. 8 déc. 2020 à 09:40, Yves P. a écrit : > > reservation=required > > description=commande 48h avant récupération > +1 > > > opening_hours=* "reservation by phone 48h before" ? > > Fonctionne aussi et même en français  > > La grammaire de

Re: [talk-cz] Změny v mapě pro ochranu přírody

2020-12-10 Thread Tom Ka
čt 10. 12. 2020 v 11:09 odesílatel Jiri Komarek napsal: > sleduji tady prolínání dvou do současné doby neznámých a částečně > nekompatibilních světů :-) OSM komunita, která chce mít věci tak, jak jsou v > reálu vs. CHKO, které se snaží chránit přírodu (v okolí Býčí skály hnízdní > vzácní

Re: [talk-cz] Změny v mapě pro ochranu přírody

2020-12-10 Thread Tom Ka
Ahoj, kopirovat acess tagy na vsechny prvky v nejake oblasti mi prijde neudrzitelne a bude z toho jen zmatek. Naopak explicitne vyjadrit, ze dana oblast ma (nejake) omezeni pristupu by mohlo byt uzitecne, relativne jednoduche a udrzitelne a i pro renderer nebo jine zpracovani dostatecne

[Talk-GB] Tagging of shared use paths

2020-12-10 Thread Thomas Jarvis
I've reached a stalemate with another mapper about the tagging of a rural shared use path. He mapped the path initially a few years ago as highway=cycleway and I've recently changed it to highway=path, bicycle=designated & foot=designated (as well as the other tags that apply to it). My reasons

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Open Street Misogynie ?

2020-12-10 Thread Jean-Marc Liotier
On 12/10/20 12:35 PM, Christian Quest wrote: Depuis hier, il y a des échanges assez rudes sur la misogynie qui régnerait dans la communauté OSM ("systemic behavior"). Je crois que la campagne électorale n'est pas étrangère à la relance de ce débat par nos amis Américains dans la nébuleuse

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging of shared use paths

2020-12-10 Thread Andy Townsend
On 10/12/2020 12:24, Thomas Jarvis wrote: (snipped) I've put this to the Data Working Group, and they have suggested that I ask the community here to see what the consensus is. I don't mind what the outcome is, however I am not satisfied with the sole reason being because it renders

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging of shared use paths

2020-12-10 Thread Martin Wynne
My reasons for changing it, is that it is shared use path with a greater number of people of foot than bicycle (about 5:2) Many public bridleways have many more walkers and cyclists using it than actual horse-riders. But are still mapped as bridleways. Map it as a cycleway, unless it is a

Re: [talk-cz] Změny v mapě pro ochranu přírody

2020-12-10 Thread jzvc via talk-cz
Dne 10.12.2020 v 13:13 Tom Ka napsal(a): čt 10. 12. 2020 v 11:09 odesílatel Jiri Komarek napsal: sleduji tady prolínání dvou do současné doby neznámých a částečně nekompatibilních světů :-) OSM komunita, která chce mít věci tak, jak jsou v reálu vs. CHKO, které se snaží chránit přírodu (v

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Open Street Misogynie ?

2020-12-10 Thread Martin Noblecourt
Bonjour à toutes et tous, Je n'aurais pas la prétention de résumer ce qui se passe mais la situation actuelle mélange plusieurs choses à mon avis : * Le niveau d'agressivité et de "toxicité" qui est une réalité sur la liste OSMF et ne peut être attribuée à une seule personne/groupe. Si

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Open Street Misogynie ?

2020-12-10 Thread Christian Quest
Je ne voulais pas ouvrir une discussion sur ce qui se passe sur talk, mais avoir plutôt un retour sur notre perception dans notre communauté francophone. Est-ce un problème invisible ? Ou n'est-ce pas un problème du tout ? Le 10/12/2020 à 12:45, PanierAvide a écrit : Bonjour Christian, La

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Open Street Misogynie ?

2020-12-10 Thread Baptiste Lemoine - Cipher Bliss
Très bon début de piste de solution concernant le mansplanning. J'ai hâte qu'une femme donne son avis sur la mysoginie dans la communauté OSM. Le côté systémique fait que ça ne fait pas de mal de rappeler que partout, et donc aussi dans les contributeurs OSM on est amené à rencontrer se

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Open Street Misogynie ?

2020-12-10 Thread Jacques Lavignotte
Le 10/12/2020 à 12:35, Christian Quest a écrit : > J'espère ne pas ouvrir une boite de pandore avec ce message... mais bon, je prends le risque. : Disclaimer : ceci est une remarque générale, probablement (?!) sans objet chez OSM-Fr. : Une manifestation intéressante de

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging of shared use paths

2020-12-10 Thread Ken Kilfedder
As a break from 'tagging for the renderer', I'd like to see rendering for the tags. It would save a lot of heartarche if the map on osm.org showed shared-use paths explicitly. Perhaps as follows:- * highway=cycleway with nothing to say that foot is allowed - blue dashes as at present. *

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Bing satellite image replaced

2020-12-10 Thread Colm Moore
Hi, While up to date imagery is welcome, it can be selective. Urban areas seem to have a flood of newish imagery, while rural areas seem to have very little. To be honest, I think some of the recent imagery is awful. You can see there is a road / building / river / whatever, but little else

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Open Street Misogynie ?

2020-12-10 Thread Jean-Marc Liotier
On 12/10/20 2:07 PM, Baptiste Lemoine - Cipher Bliss wrote: J'ai hâte qu'une femme donne son avis sur la mysoginie dans la communauté OSM. Aucune ne le fera - et pour cause: une femme qui s'en plaint sera étiquetée emmerdeuse féministe. Ça fait partie du problème.

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Open Street Misogynie ?

2020-12-10 Thread Sébastien Dinot
Bonjour à tous, Christian Quest a écrit : > Suis-je aveugle et sourd ? Je n’ai pas le souvenir d’avoir été témoin de propos misogynes sur cette liste, mais je suis loin de lire tous les messages et force est de constater qu’OSM n’échappe pas aux stéréotypes du monde des technologies de

Re: [talk-cz] Odpověď: Váš příspěvek do konference talk-cz čeká na schválení moderátorem

2020-12-10 Thread Jan Macura
Ahoj ve spolek, bylo by fajn, kdyby se jednání s touto institucí chopil jeden člověk a neházeli jsme odpovědi jeden přes druhého, jak to tu občas bývá. Vezme si to na starosti někdo z Rady nebo někdo, kdo se zajímá o chráněná území? Nebo Mirek Suchý? Je to v podstatě komunikace s nováčky ;-) H.

Re: [talk-cz] Fwd: OSM uvitaci skript

2020-12-10 Thread Miroslav Suchy
Dne 08. 12. 20 v 23:19 Martin Ždila napsal(a): > Ahojte, > > Na SotM sme sa bavili o "greeting" sktipte, tak preposielam čo používame. Super. Ještě chybí licence? Pod jakou licencí to můžeme používat? Pokud mi někdo dáte práva k https://github.com/osmcz tak bych tam založil projekt a upravil

Re: [talk-cz] Fwd: OSM uvitaci skript

2020-12-10 Thread Martin Ždila
On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 4:13 PM Miroslav Suchy wrote: > Dne 08. 12. 20 v 23:19 Martin Ždila napsal(a): > > Ahojte, > > > > Na SotM sme sa bavili o "greeting" sktipte, tak preposielam čo používame. > > Super. Ještě chybí licence? Pod jakou licencí to můžeme používat? > Jose? > Pokud mi někdo

Re: [talk-cz] Změny v mapě pro ochranu přírody

2020-12-10 Thread Tom Ka
čt 10. 12. 2020 v 14:46 odesílatel Miroslav Suchy napsal: > > Dne 10. 12. 20 v 13:09 Tom Ka napsal(a): > > Naopak explicitne vyjadrit, ze > > dana oblast ma (nejake) omezeni pristupu by mohlo byt uzitecne, > > relativne jednoduche a udrzitelne a i pro renderer nebo jine > > zpracovani dostatecne

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging of shared use paths

2020-12-10 Thread Mark Goodge
On 10/12/2020 12:41, Ken Kilfedder wrote: As a break from 'tagging for the renderer', I'd like to see rendering for the tags.  It would save a lot of heartarche if the map on osm.org showed shared-use paths explicitly. I entirely agree! I think the real problem here is that the standard

Re: [talk-cz] Fwd: OSM uvitaci skript

2020-12-10 Thread Tom Ka
Poslal jsem ti na github pozvanku. Bye. tom.k čt 10. 12. 2020 v 16:12 odesílatel Miroslav Suchy napsal: > > Dne 08. 12. 20 v 23:19 Martin Ždila napsal(a): > > Ahojte, > > > > Na SotM sme sa bavili o "greeting" sktipte, tak preposielam čo používame. > > Super. Ještě chybí licence? Pod jakou

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging of shared use paths

2020-12-10 Thread Simon Still
> On 10 Dec 2020, at 14:13, John Aldridge wrote: > > On 12/10/2020 12:41 PM, Ken Kilfedder wrote: >> As a break from 'tagging for the renderer', I'd like to see rendering for >> the tags. > > A long standing grump of mine! And mine. I think the CycleMap render has a lot of issues with

Re: [talk-cz] Změny v mapě pro ochranu přírody

2020-12-10 Thread Jiri Komarek
Ahojte, sleduji tady prolínání dvou do současné doby neznámých a částečně nekompatibilních světů :-) OSM komunita, která chce mít věci tak, jak jsou v reálu vs. CHKO, které se snaží chránit přírodu (v okolí Býčí skály hnízdní vzácní dravci, kterým se v případě rušení nedaří vyvést mladé na svět

[OSRM-talk] inject request to OSRM

2020-12-10 Thread evangelos spyrou
Hi all, We are in the middle of a project where we have to manually inject a request to our local OSRM server. Essentially, we want to make a routing request via the terminal (using a python script for example) from a specific IP and update the frontend at that PC. The question is how to inject

[OSRM-talk] Routing error on highway

2020-12-10 Thread OpenStreetMap Brasil
Greetings, I have a car routing error, between two points on a highway: -26.4926, -49.0021 and -26.4937, -49.0014. I looked for errors in the OSM and found nothing wrong. Could anyone help find the problem? In GraphHopper this problem does not occur. Sincerely, Helio Cesar Tomio Mapeador

[Talk-TW] Fwd: [HOT] Facebook Community Impact Microgrants ($5K) - applications open!!

2020-12-10 Thread Dennis Raylin Chen
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[OSRM-talk] OSRM Table Service

2020-12-10 Thread Ata Abdollahi
Hello I want to use the table service. It gives an error when I use annotations. I use the Windows version of OSRM please guide me ___ OSRM-talk mailing list OSRM-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osrm-talk

[OSRM-talk] Running with Debug?

2020-12-10 Thread Artur Bialecki
Hello, We're running older version of OSRM (5.6.0) and recently started getting segmentation faults during osrm-contract. I've recompiled the osrm backend with "cmake .. -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Debug" but I don't see any additional logging. Are there any other flags that need to be passed during

Re: [OSRM-talk] Strange results from map matching

2020-12-10 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 13.05.20 23:14, Sasan Amini wrote: > I am relatively new in using OSRM for map matching. I got my first > results but there are two issues that I can't understand. My data has > 130 rows (points) and in return, I get 150 points! I think you are approaching this with the wrong

[OSRM-talk] OSRM backend

2020-12-10 Thread Jetzer Laurent
Hello, In one of our project, we are using OSRM, but we only need the match service. To save memory usage, is it possible to 1. import (osrm-extract) only the data needed for the match service? 2. start (osrm-routed) the match service only? Kind regards -- Laurent Jetzer Project Manager

[OSRM-talk] File Location

2020-12-10 Thread Vernon Chapman
I am not sure if this is how to ask questions, but if not please provide the correct place to ask. Where do I find the output file from pre-processing? This is not my build of the OSRM, I am only trying to determine how much memory is needed to run the program after preprocessing. I read

Re: [talk-cz] Změny v mapě pro ochranu přírody

2020-12-10 Thread Mikoláš Štrajt
Díky Mirkovi Suchému za přímo ukázkovou reakci. Souhlasím s Jirkou Komárkem se smazáním vyhlídek, ke kterým se nesmí oficiálně chodit. Vidím to tak, že tím, že se tam nesmí chodit je to defakto zaniklá vyhlídka. Vlastně je to něčím podobné jinému typu vyhlídky - vyhlídce, která zarostla a

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