Re: [OSM-talk] FYI: Board now requires imports list (in)compatibility with OSM CT (& will work on a template)

2022-11-29 Thread John Whelan
It was merely in response to Greg Troxel's comment. "In the case of your transit system, what were the key problems, and how were they overcome? I suspect that history is very useful for others." Cheerio John Dave F wrote on 11/29/2022 3:13 PM: Sorry, but I'm unclear what that detailed

Re: [OSM-talk] FYI: Board now requires imports list (in)compatibility with OSM CT (& will work on a template)

2022-11-29 Thread Dave F via talk
Sorry, but I'm unclear what that detailed story has to do with my point? DaveF On 29/11/2022 16:54, John Whelan wrote: The story of the Ottawa bus stops... ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] FYI: Board now requires imports list (in)compatibility with OSM CT (& will work on a template)

2022-11-29 Thread John Whelan
The story of the Ottawa bus stops started when the City decided to announce the bus stops in an automated way to assist blind people. To do this they went round every bus stop with very accurate GPS equipment so the bus stops were measured to within a meter or so accuracy. One or two weren’t

Re: [OSM-talk] FYI: Board now requires imports list (in)compatibility with OSM CT (& will work on a template)

2022-11-29 Thread Dave F via talk
On 28/11/2022 23:48, Tobias Knerr wrote: we would like to offer data donors a standard legal text that they can use to make their data available to OSM in such a way that we would expect it to survive a hypothetical license change. I'm confused. If a maintainer of a database wishes to change

Re: [OSM-talk] FYI: Board now requires imports list (in)compatibility with OSM CT (& will work on a template)

2022-11-29 Thread Tobias Knerr
On 29.11.22 03:57 Minh Nguyen wrote: Could you clarify the "perhaps" here? If something has been explicitly dedicated to the public domain via CC0, a similar statement, or a relevant law, should it not survive any relicensing attempt? Or is this just about the editorial decision of whether to

Re: [OSM-talk] FYI: Board now requires imports list (in)compatibility with OSM CT (& will work on a template)

2022-11-29 Thread Simon Poole
Am 29.11.2022 um 15:30 schrieb Greg Troxel: ... Also, what we need is a copyright license, so that's not necessarily -- and hopefully isn't -- a contract. Well there is this kind of underlying assumption that for most material in question, with the exception of actual maps, there is no

Re: [OSM-talk] FYI: Board now requires imports list (in)compatibility with OSM CT (& will work on a template)

2022-11-29 Thread Greg Troxel
john whelan writes: > I have concerns about the amount of effort we seem to be asking open data > set creators to make. I think it took me seven years to get the licensing > correct to be able to import the local bus stops and very early in the > process the head of the transit system said

Re: [OSM-talk] FYI: Board now requires imports list (in)compatibility with OSM CT (& will work on a template)

2022-11-29 Thread Greg Troxel
Simon Poole writes: >> Could you clarify the "perhaps" here? If something has been >> explicitly dedicated to the public domain via CC0, a similar >> statement, or a relevant law, should it not survive any relicensing >> attempt? Or is this just about the editorial decision of whether to >>