Re: [Talk-ca] [Import] Ottawa Buildings & Addresses [Statistics Canada project]

2016-10-19 Thread James
I have answered most of your concerns Stewart on the wiki. I will continue later today when I'm awake On Oct 20, 2016 1:04 AM, "Denis Carriere" wrote: > Stewart, > > The process was a success for me, the only issue was the data was bad... > I've been involved in

Re: [Talk-ca] [Import] Ottawa Buildings & Addresses [Statistics Canada project]

2016-10-19 Thread James
imported building footprints and addresses with coincide together(no backyard addresses) and will provide us with more accurate routing/geolocalization power On Oct 19, 2016 9:59 PM, "Steve Singer" <st...@ssinger.info> wrote: > On Wed, 19 Oct 2016, James wrote: > > Seems like a

Re: [Talk-ca] [Imports] [Import] Ottawa Buildings & Addresses [Statistics Canada project]

2016-10-20 Thread James
of ottawa feels it necessary to rename a couple hundred roads per year and just hasnt been updated in OSM. http://ottawa.ca/en/city-hall/public-consultations/municipal-addressing/street-name-and-address-changes-update-october On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 7:40 AM, Christoph Hormann <chris_horm

Re: [Talk-ca] [Imports] [Import] Ottawa Buildings & Addresses [Statistics Canada project]

2016-10-20 Thread James
Hormann <chris_horm...@gmx.de> wrote: > On Thursday 20 October 2016, James wrote: > > Why are you linking a french wiki page of forest? > > > > Un Foret > > Des Forets > > > > I think it's "des forêts". > > Notice the

Re: [Talk-ca] [Imports] [Import] Ottawa Buildings & Addresses [Statistics Canada project]

2016-10-20 Thread James
I was wrong there is one sign up(i'm glad I drove there) http://openstreetview.com/details/21585/18 See? no "ê". On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 10:37 AM, James <james2...@gmail.com> wrote: > What is highly questionable about two levels of Government reaching out to > the

Re: [Talk-ca] [Imports] [Import] Ottawa Buildings & Addresses [Statistics Canada project]

2016-10-22 Thread James
buildings like schools and malls, residential buildings are out. On Sat, Oct 22, 2016 at 10:00 AM, Stewart C. Russell <scr...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 2016-10-21 11:41 PM, James wrote: > > Sounds like it, but the data handed to us didnt have sidewalks and > > roads, driveways etc. Ott

Re: [Talk-ca] Light rail mapping questions

2016-10-22 Thread James
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:train Train does exist as a vehicle type As for cars: I think it would be motor_vehicle: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:motor_vehicle I got the vehicle types from: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:access#Transport_mode_restrictions On

Re: [Talk-ca] Light rail mapping questions

2016-10-22 Thread James
Could lanes work? https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lanes Example: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lanes#Two_driving_directions What ever the train tag would be: train:lanes:forward=no|yes train:lanes:backwards=no|yes Then for passenger cars would be opposite? car:lanes:forward=yes|no

Re: [Talk-ca] City of Ottawa imported buildings & addresses

2016-10-17 Thread James
(Frederik Ramm) *just did a mass revert [0] with his revert script [1] > created in 2009 and now we have 20,000+ warnings of empty nodes within a > small section of Ottawa [2]. > > Not only did *(Frederik Ramm) *undo James commits, but now you've > introduced over 100,000+ warnin

Re: [Talk-ca] The Statistics Canada Project

2016-10-17 Thread James
I'm the one running the tasking manager. On Oct 17, 2016 9:08 PM, "AJ Ashton" wrote: > Hi John, > > Thanks for the writeup. I think this is the first post that's made it > fully clear what is going on. As I was re-reading the previous StatCan > thread earlier today I seemed to

Re: [Talk-ca] City of Ottawa imported buildings & addresses

2016-10-17 Thread James
Like this one Kevin? https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ca/2016-July/007034.html or this one? https://www.mail-archive.com/talk-ca@openstreetmap.org/msg07024.html or this one? https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ca/2016-August/007151.html or this one?

Re: [Talk-ca] [Imports] [Import] Ottawa Buildings & Addresses [Statistics Canada project]

2016-10-24 Thread James
Bjenk(STATS Can) is communicating/pushing with the the city of Ottawa, even may resolve to offering coffee bribes to be able to host the shared file on open.canada.ca. He's been relentless in his effort to move the project forward, but as most Canadian gouvernment entities it moves at a snails

Re: [Talk-ca] [Imports] [Import] Ottawa Buildings & Addresses [Statistics Canada project]

2016-10-24 Thread James
ferent government levels there > should not be a problem. > > The traditional way to gently refuse something is for it to get lost in > the system. I haven't seen any signs of that yet. > > I think things have moved forward but perhaps not at the pace everyone > might like.

Re: [Talk-ca] [Imports] [Import] Ottawa Buildings & Addresses [Statistics Canada project]

2016-10-25 Thread James
.PNG I know this as I am a local mapper. On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 6:52 PM, James <james2...@gmail.com> wrote: > I can guarantee that this data is roof level data. While I was examining > data there were cart returns mapped as outlines. This data was also traced > via orthophoto

Re: [Talk-ca] MapRoulette challenges

2016-10-21 Thread James
I think mapbox covered this in a previous pass on the canadian motorways(and documented this pretty well): https://gist.github.com/manoharuss/3a1b4f640aaf2c052365fcb1ddb09beb https://github.com/mapbox/mapping/issues/220 https://gist.github.com/poornibadrinath/9333f1489732c32c3ffadd58e3068b7e

Re: [Talk-ca] MapRoulette challenges

2016-10-21 Thread James
metros I believe. The > remaining ones should be mainly outside of the larger urban areas. See > http://maproulette.org/view/499 for locations of the tasks. > > Martijn > > Martijn van Exel > http://mvexel.github.io/ > > On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 10:55 AM, James <j

Re: [Talk-ca] [Imports] [Import] Ottawa Buildings & Addresses [Statistics Canada project]

2016-10-21 Thread James
I agree with Pavel (about the guidelines being considered to be followed to a T, when guidelines by definition are what should be done) As for Ottawa relying on external sources to collect data/correct the data. Ottawa has a GIS team and surveyors and do said work internally. So they do own 100%

Re: [Talk-ca] [Imports] [Import] Ottawa Buildings & Addresses [Statistics Canada project]

2016-10-21 Thread James
Sounds like it, but the data handed to us didnt have sidewalks and roads, driveways etc. Ottawa may have exported data from this file On Oct 21, 2016 11:19 PM, "Stewart C. Russell" <scr...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 2016-10-20 10:37 AM, James wrote: > > > > We seem t

Re: [Talk-ca] [Imports] [Import] Ottawa Buildings & Addresses [Statistics Canada project]

2016-10-21 Thread James
Converting, DWG to DXF to open in qgis should be fun On Oct 21, 2016 11:41 PM, "James" <james2...@gmail.com> wrote: > Sounds like it, but the data handed to us didnt have sidewalks and roads, > driveways etc. Ottawa may have exported data from this file > > On Oct 2

Re: [Talk-ca] [Imports] [Import] Ottawa Buildings & Addresses [Statistics Canada project]

2016-10-24 Thread James
AM, James <james2...@gmail.com> wrote: > I've updated the documentation and incorporated Scruss's findings on the > build source data: > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Canada:Ontario: > Ottawa/Import/TopographicMap > > On Sat, Oct 22, 2016 at 5:58 PM, Begin Daniel &l

[Talk-ca] Open data in Canada

2016-10-24 Thread James
I've been looking for open data portals for potential future import into OpenStreetMap(why duplicate efforts right?) I've documented the one's I've found here: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Canada#Open_Data ___ Talk-ca mailing list

Re: [Talk-ca] [Imports] [Import] Ottawa Buildings & Addresses [Statistics Canada project]

2016-10-24 Thread James
24, 2016 at 12:44 PM, Stewart C. Russell <scr...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 2016-10-24 08:04 AM, James wrote: > > I've updated the documentation and incorporated Scruss's findings on the > > build source data: > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Canada:Ontario: >

Re: [Talk-ca] [Imports] [Import] Ottawa Buildings & Addresses [Statistics Canada project]

2016-10-24 Thread James
AM *To:* Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN) <bjenk.ellef...@canada.ca>; Perkins, Stephen M <stephen.perk...@ottawa.ca> *Subject:* RE: Open Canada Hi Bjenk, I have no problem with that. Ian On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 2:28 PM, James <james2...@gmail.com> wrote: > I've received a for

Re: [Talk-ca] [Imports] [Import] Ottawa Buildings & Addresses [Statistics Canada project]

2016-10-24 Thread James
4 October 2016, James wrote: > > As stated, multiple times on this list already: the city of Ottawa > > gave data to Statistics Canada. Statistics Canada gave us (amazon > > cloud link) data, which is just building outlines. > > Please don't change the subject, Stewart asked

Re: [Talk-ca] [Imports] [Import] Ottawa Buildings & Addresses [Statistics Canada project]

2016-10-24 Thread James
On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 2:42 PM, Jeff McKenna <jmcke...@gatewaygeomatics.com > wrote: > On 2016-10-24 3:28 PM, James wrote: > >> I've received a forwarded email from Bjenk that may settle the debate >> where the data originates from (I'd forward it to the list, but it woul

Re: [Talk-ca] Ottawa Buildings has the revert finished? Is it safe to add a new Internet cafe yet?

2016-10-24 Thread James
Judging by http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/woodpeck_repair/history#map=10/45.2996/-75.6981 There hasn't been activity in 24hrs... Frederik Ramm said he'd update us. On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 2:56 PM, john whelan wrote: > Thanks John > >

Re: [Talk-ca] [Imports] [Import] Ottawa Buildings & Addresses [Statistics Canada project]

2016-10-24 Thread James
As stated, multiple times on this list already: the city of Ottawa gave data to Statistics Canada. Statistics Canada gave us (amazon cloud link) data, which is just building outlines. In case you are in doubt this project is actually happening or not (and I am just making the whole thing up):

Re: [Talk-ca] [Imports] [Import] Ottawa Buildings & Addresses [Statistics Canada project]

2016-10-24 Thread James
be found as polygons in the Canvec > product. > > Furthermore, NRCan did not update the Canvec buildings layer for more than > 20 years (the oldest is 1944), with only a few exceptions… > > > > Daniel > > > > *From:* James [mailto:james2...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Sa

Re: [Talk-ca] [Imports] [Import] Ottawa Buildings & Addresses [Statistics Canada project]

2016-10-24 Thread James
I've updated the file(I can't delete it without and admin) On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 2:54 PM, Jeff McKenna <jmcke...@gatewaygeomatics.com > wrote: > On 2016-10-24 3:50 PM, James wrote: > >> It was more to prove that the emails are Trusted sources and not made >> up. The e

Re: [Talk-ca] City of Ottawa imported buildings & addresses

2016-10-20 Thread James
Are you done the revert yet? I got a message from: lesc "Hi, It looks like some changes in Kanata you did removed all the lines that represent buildings and only the corners are left as points. Thanks, Les" Seems like your reverting is messing up data

Re: [Talk-ca] Telenav mapping turn restrictions

2016-10-19 Thread James
Yeah no one really wants to do that, except maybe mapbox's india contractors On Oct 19, 2016 2:43 PM, "John Marshall" wrote: > Make sense to me. Adding turn restrictions is something I don't want to > add. > > Happy to see all my Mapillary and OpenStreetView imagery being used

[Talk-ca] [Import] Ottawa Buildings & Addresses [Statistics Canada project]

2016-10-19 Thread James
Seems like a good enough time like any other to talk about the import of Ottawa buildings and addresses into OpenStreetMap. Documentation is available here: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Canada:Ontario:Ottawa/Import/Plan Discussion with local mappers has happened in person for multiple

Re: [Talk-ca] [Import] Ottawa Buildings & Addresses [Statistics Canada project]

2016-10-19 Thread James
be suggesting using a customised iD >> to their general public but given the experience of iD mapping buildings in >> HOT it was thought that importing the building outlines would give a better >> quality map at the end. >> >> Cheerio John >> >> On 19 Octo

[Talk-ca] Steve Coast meetup

2016-11-13 Thread James
Hi everyone. If you are in this list I'm assuming you love everything OpenStreetMap. Well you're in for a treat! OSM founder and creator, Steve Coast, will be in the Ottawa/Gatineau area in November. We are currently organizing a meetup with him on November 17th. A a quick overview of how the

Re: [Talk-ca] [Imports] [Import] Ottawa Buildings & Addresses [Statistics Canada project]

2016-10-20 Thread James
r concerns of problems that may arise during this import, this is what this process is for is it not? To address concerns people may have. On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 9:50 AM, James <james2...@gmail.com> wrote: > If you are complaining that it doesnt have "ê" you are going to have to

[Talk-ca] Avoiding data redundancy

2016-10-17 Thread James
I've been looking into data in Ottawa(this is one of many cities that do this) and a lot of addresses/buildings have "addr:city" and I even get "addr:province" and "addr:country". Seeing as there are boundary polygons for Ottawa, Ontario and Canada. I think to reduce data redundancy these should

Re: [Talk-ca] City of Ottawa imported buildings & addresses

2016-10-17 Thread James
Stewart, that's where you are wrong. Ottawa has supplied data(footprints and address) to Stats Can to import into OSM for their project under the Canada Open Gov License so there would be no issues with licensing. We are using that data. On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 3:25 PM, Stewart C. Russell

Re: [Talk-ca] City of Ottawa imported buildings & addresses

2016-10-17 Thread James
ied the new outline to the school multipolygon and must have missed coping the building level. My mistake. On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Stewart C. Russell <scr...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 2016-10-17 03:33 PM, James wrote: > > Stewart, that's where you are wrong. Ottawa has suppli

Re: [Talk-ca] [Imports] Fwd: [Import] Ottawa Buildings & Addresses [Statistics Canada project]

2016-12-21 Thread James
Just to give an update, Ottawa has finally approved moving the building outlines to the open data portal. The person responsible is on vacation and will be back the 9th of January 2017 and expect it to be live by the end of that week. So with data source not being publicly available, are there

Re: [Talk-ca] Community Conduct

2016-12-22 Thread James
:11 PM, "Stewart C. Russell" <scr...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 2016-12-22 07:47 PM, James wrote: > > From what was told to me at the school, Stewart, you are allowed to > > create derivative work/tracing, but not distribute the imagery. > > You may be able

Re: [Talk-ca] [Imports] Fwd: [Import] Ottawa Buildings & Addresses [Statistics Canada project]

2016-12-23 Thread James
Also Devon, the city of Ottawa said that they will not be updating the file provided on their portal as it is only for the StatsCan project to advance(publicly available) , so for now anyways it's a one time import as there will never be any other version. The polygons themselves have no

Re: [Talk-ca] Community Conduct

2016-12-22 Thread James
It may take a while for them to respond, due to the christmas holiday and all. On Dec 22, 2016 8:13 PM, "James" <james2...@gmail.com> wrote: > Will do. If it needs to be reverted, I will do so. > > On Dec 22, 2016 8:11 PM, "Stewart C. Russell" <scr...@gmai

Re: [Talk-ca] [Imports] Fwd: [Import] Ottawa Buildings & Addresses [Statistics Canada project]

2016-12-22 Thread James
Hi devon, those DWG files(if you were following the import thread, you would already know this) are old and outdated, never to be updated again. The newer file is an export of what they have to date. On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 1:47 PM, Devon Fyson wrote: > Here's are my

Re: [Talk-ca] [Imports] Fwd: [Import] Ottawa Buildings & Addresses [Statistics Canada project]

2016-12-22 Thread James
*1. Arn't the building polygons already available? I see large buildings > and the topographic DWG file

Re: [Talk-ca] Community Conduct

2016-12-22 Thread James
It's too bad I document everything before. http://imgur.com/a/yedmc On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 3:23 PM, James <james2...@gmail.com> wrote: > And suddenly the osmcha disapproval from Nakaner(Michael has > disapearedI know he's on this list as he does popup from time to time &g

Re: [Talk-ca] Community Conduct

2016-12-22 Thread James
is flagged, which I'm tired of(thus the defensive attitude). On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 2:46 PM, James <james2...@gmail.com> wrote: > Frederik, your email is very opinionated, when I have just showed you > (pixel based) why I drew that building like that. > > On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 2

Re: [Talk-ca] Community Conduct

2016-12-22 Thread James
Frederik, your email is very opinionated, when I have just showed you (pixel based) why I drew that building like that. On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 2:43 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > >I've been involved in a changeset discussion that I would like to > bring to the

Re: [Talk-ca] Community Conduct

2016-12-22 Thread James
And suddenly the osmcha disapproval from Nakaner(Michael has disapearedI know he's on this list as he does popup from time to time on this listvery suspicious indeed. On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 3:08 PM, James <james2...@gmail.com> wrote: > http://osmcha.mapbox.com/44545610/ &g

Re: [Talk-ca] Community Conduct

2016-12-22 Thread James
skates. Cheerio John On 22 December 2016 at 16:28, Michael Reichert <naka...@gmx.net> wrote: > Hi James, > > Am 22.12.2016 um 21:23 schrieb James: > > And suddenly the osmcha disapproval from Nakaner(Michael has > > disapearedI know he's on this list as he does popup

Re: [Talk-ca] Community Conduct

2016-12-22 Thread James
out of my control On Dec 22, 2016 4:30 PM, "Michael Reichert" <naka...@gmx.net> wrote: > Hi James, > > Am 22.12.2016 um 21:23 schrieb James: > > And suddenly the osmcha disapproval from Nakaner(Michael has > > disapearedI know he's on this list as he does p

Re: [Talk-ca] Community Conduct

2016-12-22 Thread James
>From what was told to me at the school, Stewart, you are allowed to create derivative work/tracing, but not distribute the imagery. On Dec 22, 2016 7:29 PM, "Stewart C. Russell" wrote: > On 2016-12-22 02:43 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > > > >

Re: [Talk-ca] Community Conduct

2016-12-22 Thread James
Will do. If it needs to be reverted, I will do so. On Dec 22, 2016 8:11 PM, "Stewart C. Russell" <scr...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 2016-12-22 07:47 PM, James wrote: > > From what was told to me at the school, Stewart, you are allowed to > > create derivative w

Re: [Talk-ca] Community Conduct

2016-12-22 Thread James
If you want me to commit in even smaller chunks I don't mind, I just hate wasting "commit numbers" (see int64 limit, in which osm will have to change their commit id schema or support int128) ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-ca] Community Conduct

2016-12-22 Thread James
016 at 6:09 PM, James <james2...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> As Devonf has pointed out, if you want to see the carletonuniversity(cant >> download I'm sorry) you can visit http://maps.ottawa.ca/geoottawa/ and >> view the "2014" aerial ortho, which seems to be the

Re: [Talk-ca] Community Conduct

2016-12-22 Thread James
, Paul Norman <penor...@mac.com> wrote: > On 12/22/2016 3:21 PM, James wrote: > > As pnorman has said in the past( https://lists.openstreetmap. > org/pipermail/talk-ca/2016-September/007260.html): > > * Uploaded in small enough parts that the changesets make sense. This >

Re: [Talk-ca] Community Conduct

2016-12-22 Thread James
y son tact, look the word up in the dictionary or you'll have Pierre > descending on Ottawa demanding double Lattes. > > Cheerio John > > On 22 December 2016 at 18:40, James <james2...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Paul, I am aware of conflicts may occur, but seeing as no one maps >

Re: [Talk-ca] Telenav mapping turn restrictions

2017-03-26 Thread James
rly aligning aerial imagery, so I'm not exactly filled with >> confidence that they should be making widespread changes like they are. >> >> Martijn, I think Telenav needs to stop what they're doing and have a >> careful discussion with us about their plans and editing p

Re: [Talk-ca] Happy Valley-Goose Bay, Labrador, Canada Data

2017-04-03 Thread James
As long as the license of the data is compatible with the ODbL, I'd love to help out. I can help you set up the project on the osmcanada tasking manager : tasks.osmcanada.ca so many people could collaborate on this effort. On Apr 3, 2017 12:33 PM, "Anatolijs Venovcevs" <

Re: [Talk-ca] Telenav mapping turn restrictions

2017-04-03 Thread James
I've made it easier for everyone I sent an email to the local police station about the legalities of turning right at the light vs taking the ramp/turning lane. Hopefully they will answer me. On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 1:18 PM, Martijn van Exel <m...@rtijn.org> wrote: > James -- I could not

Re: [Talk-ca] Ottawa import: deleting existing content

2017-03-31 Thread James
Just an FYI canvec is not the best in Ottawa: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9ueWCOgxq2GT0JfTkRnb2JXcTQ/view?usp=drivesdk On Mar 31, 2017 9:37 PM, "Stewart C. Russell" wrote: > It seems that some of the import users didn't get the “Don't delete > stuff” memo. User

Re: [Talk-ca] Ottawa import: deleting existing content

2017-03-31 Thread James
wa, there's good data that supercedes this bad data. > > In my opinion these interpolations are actually making Ottawa worse and I > question the necessity of them. > > Cheers, > Kyle > > On Mar 31, 2017 9:48 PM, James <james2...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Just a

Re: [Talk-ca] Ottawa import: deleting existing content

2017-04-01 Thread James
com> wrote: > On 2017-03-31 10:35 PM, James wrote: > > Your example for building deletion, has 0 building deletion > > > > https://overpass-api.de/achavi/?changeset=47337186 > > Ah, linked to the wrong one. This has it: > https://overpass-api.de/achavi/?changeset=47

Re: [Talk-ca] Ottawa import: deleting existing content

2017-04-01 Thread James
Fixed: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/480316853/history & https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/480316854/history On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 6:48 AM, James <james2...@gmail.com> wrote: > Could have been a mistake as we told people not to delete buildings. If > building geometry was

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing with Statistics Canada (Ottawa ODL 2.0 is go!)

2017-03-03 Thread James
Thank you scruss for digging up the meeting notes :) On Mar 4, 2017 12:40 AM, "Heather Leson" wrote: Fantastic. Happy open data day! On 4 Mar 2017 04:12, "John Marshall" wrote: > Great news > > On Mar 3, 2017 9:16 PM, "Stewart C. Russell"

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing with Statistics Canada (Ottawa ODL 2.0 is go!)

2017-03-04 Thread James
Weird there was the same thing yesterday in Ottawa with open.canada.ca On Mar 4, 2017 9:39 AM, "Stewart C. Russell" wrote: > On 2017-03-04 08:20 AM, Bjenk Ellefsen wrote: > > > > We can follow the same steps and workflow in the future if we > potentially move to another city.

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing with Statistics Canada (Ottawa ODL 2.0 is go!)

2017-03-04 Thread James
If every license was perfect, we wouldnt need lawyers... On Mar 4, 2017 10:03 AM, "Stewart C. Russell" <scr...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 2017-03-04 09:09 AM, James wrote: > > As the LWG said, it's not a blanket acceptance of all OGL variants, but > > if future lice

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing with Statistics Canada (Ottawa ODL 2.0 is go!)

2017-03-04 Thread James
As the LWG said, it's not a blanket acceptance of all OGL variants, but if future licenses we come across are exactly the same(kdiff of text or something as proof) except the city/entity name. We will have a strong case that it is compatible with ODbL. The problem lies when cities decide to add

[Talk-ca] Broken Boundary

2017-03-06 Thread James
I'm sending this as I do not feel comfortable with the area. Near Toronto there is a boundary (relation #4660559) for "Hastings" that seems to be attributed to a geobase import, but when I look at the geobase boundaries, doesn't seem to follow any of them. The problem is the boundary is not

Re: [Talk-ca] Municipal boundaries

2017-03-07 Thread James
Depends what boundaries you are talking about: City limits(admin_level=8) there are a few(usually main cities) as for neighbourhoods (admin_level=9) they are a rarity. On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 8:50 AM, Bjenk Ellefsen wrote: > Hello, > > Municipal boundaries correspond to

Re: [Talk-ca] Municipal boundaries

2017-03-07 Thread James
Bernie, I've also noticed that StatsCan boundaries seem to be a generalization of an area vs the actual city limits On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 9:02 AM, Bernie Connors wrote: > Bjenk, > > In NB there are issues with some census boundaries not matching with > our

Re: [Talk-ca] Municipal boundaries

2017-03-07 Thread James
stand what is the > classification used if its not the CSDs. > > On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 9:11 AM, James <james2...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Bernie, I've also noticed that StatsCan boundaries seem to be a >> generalization of an area vs the actual city limits >>

Re: [Talk-ca] Municipal boundaries

2017-03-07 Thread James
Sorry the image didnt copy properly: http://i.imgur.com/QwdQDzS.png On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 9:31 AM, James <james2...@gmail.com> wrote: > In purple/black CSD 2016, in gold Gatineau's city limits from their open > data portal: > http://i.imgur.com/undefined.png > > The

Re: [Talk-ca] Municipal boundaries

2017-03-07 Thread James
ca/dataset/municipalities-legally- > defined-administrative-areas-of-bc > > P > > > On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 6:31 AM, James <james2...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> In purple/black CSD 2016, in gold Gatineau's city limits from their open >> data portal: >> http://i.

Re: [Talk-ca] Municipal boundaries

2017-03-07 Thread James
Quebec's Open Data portal just points to the city portals which each have their own license(usually CC-BY) https://www.donneesquebec.ca/fr/ On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 9:42 AM, James <james2...@gmail.com> wrote: > We also have to think if we are going with "good enough" wh

Re: [Talk-ca] Municipal boundaries

2017-03-07 Thread James
CSDs are suppose to represent city/town limits (observable as usually there's a sign that says Welcome to X or Sorry to see you leave X), but they have been rounded off to look nice and may not reflect what it is in reality On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 1:05 PM, Stewart C. Russell

Re: [Talk-ca] importing data requiring attribution

2017-03-05 Thread James
If you dont want your work reverted, you might want to check this out https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines Attribution is indirect on the wiki(you may need to contact the data supplier if this fufills their attribution clause: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors

Re: [Talk-ca] In progress: Clearances for Ontario and Toronto Open Data Licences

2017-04-03 Thread James
Is there documentation on this, you will have to create a wiki page on the matter with links to the dataset so we can analyze it. On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 5:46 PM, Stewart Russell wrote: > Just so folks know, there are a few initiatives going on that could lead > us to using

Re: [Talk-ca] vandalism in Toronto

2017-07-23 Thread James
If he continues, contact dwg. I dont think "avoid this area" belongs in OSM. On Jul 23, 2017 5:31 PM, "Stewart C. Russell" wrote: > A friend alerted me to some locations with odd labels in Toronto, and I > noticed it was the result of some fairly comprehensive vandalism by

Re: [Talk-ca] Radio-Canada - Carte Google premières nations est la meilleure - Réagissez

2017-06-29 Thread James
Au cas que le monde ont besoin des endroids ou se trouve les premieres nations le Canada a ses donnees: First Nations Location dataset: http://open.canada.ca/data/en/dataset/b6567c5c-8339-4055-99fa-63f92114d9e4 Inuit Communities Location dataset:

Re: [Talk-ca] Multipolygon problems

2017-06-30 Thread James
... not everyone has the experiance needed to merge down polygons/relations on such a large object scale and very wide spread throughout Canada On Jun 30, 2017 6:12 AM, "James" <james2...@gmail.com> wrote: The problem that canvec has is multi polygons with different attributes wer

Re: [Talk-ca] Multipolygon problems

2017-06-30 Thread James
The problem that canvec has is multi polygons with different attributes were stacked on top of eachother(i.e. hole in the forest that is also a lake? That makes 2 polygons with same shape stacked one of top of eachother... marshland+water+hole in forest? 3 polygons etc etc. Not that I wouldnt live

Re: [Talk-ca] Multipolygon problems

2017-06-30 Thread James
https://i.imgur.com/8xKttYm.jpg Image was ridiculously small On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 6:28 AM, James <james2...@gmail.com> wrote: > Example: > https://i.imgur.com/8xKttYm_d.jpg > > Represents multiple thousand square kilometers of forest/objects. To > actually be able to

Re: [Talk-ca] Multipolygon problems

2017-06-30 Thread James
To be fairyour example is from Canvec 4.0.that's reaaallly oldwas it possible that was a way of tagging back in the days? Or was it created initially as a polygon and was later converted to a relation? Canvec 10.0 doesnt have the issues of double tagging, just overlapping On

Re: [Talk-ca] Multipolygon problems

2017-06-30 Thread James
If it's just removing tags, on inner polygons of a multipolygon, that should be manageable in itself... is there a way you are querying for said items without setting up a postgresql database? On Jun 30, 2017 3:57 PM, "James" <james2...@gmail.com> wrote: > To be fairy

Re: [Talk-ca] Multipolygon problems

2017-06-30 Thread James
Especially when the only imagery available is Landsat On Jun 30, 2017 2:18 PM, "Frank Steggink" wrote: > Hi Jochen, > > Maybe I'm not understanding it, but in the OSM inspector [1] I just see > one case of old style multipolygon, in Manitoba. Last week, when you

Re: [Talk-ca] Multipolygon problems

2017-06-30 Thread James
If we have a overpass query that Pierre provided, we can create a maproulette task...then everyone can contribute! I can read up on how to create a task or ask Martjin --- Si nous avons un query overpass que Pierre nous ont fournit, on pourrais créer une tache maproulette...pour que tout le monde

Re: [Talk-ca] Multipolygon problems

2017-07-01 Thread James
Error free Québec, just in time for Canada day! Good job Pierre :-) On Jul 1, 2017 4:34 AM, "Frank Steggink" wrote: > Hi Jochen, > > Maybe a MapRoulette challenge might even not be necessary. Yesterday I > started to clean up a bit in Québec, but since it was already past

Re: [Talk-ca] Multipolygon problems

2017-06-30 Thread James
ppers per square kilometer. As James has stated this sort of clean up requires fairly specialised resources that realistically we don't have in sufficient quantity to meet your priorities and I think the Canadian mappers have indicated this is not a high priority for them and they are happy with the statu

Re: [Talk-ca] [Imports] Ottawa, Canada Tree Import

2017-07-04 Thread James
>But i understand that as Canadians you have a reputation to defend - i >mean with marvels like this: >http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/45.40668/-75.66268 You are assuming that we had the most up to date imagery at all times, but the problem is that a local mapper could tell you that the

Re: [Talk-ca] Multipolygon problems

2017-07-01 Thread James
Depends where you get the data I think, canvec from ftp is different from canvec from toporama/atlas On Jul 1, 2017 5:44 PM, "Stewart C. Russell" <scr...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi James, > > > Canvec 10.0 doesnt have the issues of double tagging, just overlapping

Re: [Talk-ca] Ottawa, Canada Tree Import

2017-06-27 Thread James
+1 Trees are good for the environment and data looks up to par with the wiki On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 3:23 PM, John Marshall wrote: > +100 > > On Jun 27, 2017 15:20, "Denis Carriere" wrote: > >> +1 That's awesome work! >> >> So many tree related OSM

Re: [Talk-ca] [Imports] Ottawa, Canada Tree Import

2017-06-29 Thread James
ttawa? Have you noticed this? This is a danger of doing an import > without looking at the existing OSM data. > > Doing some data analysis isn't a "mechanical edit", you're looking at > the data, not editing it. > > Rory > > On 28/06/17 17:13, James wrote: > >

Re: [Talk-ca] [Imports] Ottawa, Canada Tree Import

2017-06-29 Thread James
This is probably why dbh is used as the diameter only changes a tiny fraction of the circumferance per year, so the data is less stale and you dont have to audit them every year On Jun 28, 2017 9:21 PM, "Max Erickson" wrote: > > > On Jun 28, 2017 6:46 PM, "Kyle Nuttall"

Re: [Talk-ca] [Imports] Ottawa, Canada Tree Import

2017-06-29 Thread James
I can already see the Rideau Mall roof top as being an exception (there's a giant garden on the roof) On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 8:52 AM, Denis Carriere wrote: > There's many of us that are from the local Ottawa area, we will make sure > we capture those exceptions. I am

Re: [Talk-ca] [Imports] Ottawa, Canada Tree Import

2017-06-28 Thread James
Other than MANUALLY VERIFYING EACH AND EVERY TREE, there is no way to give a statistical analysis of the accuracy of the entire dataset. If we did it programatically we'd have to prove how the method of analysis is correct and would be probably be brushed off as being a "mechanical edit" thus

Re: [Talk-ca] [Imports] Ottawa, Canada Tree Import

2017-06-28 Thread James
If you can assume that OSM data is 100% correct then you can also assume that data from a city GIS department that have done their jobs correctly is also 100% correct. On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 12:04 PM, James <james2...@gmail.com> wrote: > Rory said: > What if OSM data is wrong? What

Re: [Talk-ca] [Imports] Ottawa, Canada Tree Import

2017-06-28 Thread James
ple of why it could be incorrect). Maybe understanding the logic flaw I'm trying to express in your "analysis" would be a good place to start. On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 11:56 AM, Christoph Hormann <o...@imagico.de> wrote: > On Wednesday 28 June 2017, James wrote: > > Well t

Re: [Talk-ca] [Imports] Ottawa, Canada Tree Import

2017-06-28 Thread James
Well that analysis is incorrect in itself as others have stated, OSM can be wrong. So a river bank, building, etc may not be properly drawn. So with that being said what you are saying is the only viable way to accept an import is to manually review every single item in the dataset. On Wed, Jun

Re: [Talk-ca] Telenav mapping turn restrictions

2017-04-26 Thread James
For once, I agree with Nakaner. On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 12:49 PM, Michael Reichert wrote: > Hi Martijn, > > Am 26.04.2017 um 18:22 schrieb Stewart C. Russell: > > I know that Github issues are the industry standard, and the OSM > > comment/discussion mechanisms may seem a

Re: [Talk-ca] Telenav mapping turn restrictions

2017-04-25 Thread James
enefits from all of this in some twisted way... Andrew Lester Victoria, BC, Canada -- *From: *m...@rtijn.org *To: *"James Mast" <rickmastfa...@hotmail.com> *Cc: *"OSM US" <talk...@openstreetmap.org>, "talk-ca" < talk-ca@openstreetm

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