2009/12/15 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com:
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 2:36 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
I tend to mark bridges as layer=1 and anything at ground level I don't
set a layer tag, which seems the most logical to me since ditches
aren't under the ground etc
2009/12/15 Anthony o...@inbox.org:
Okay, but here's the thing. We don't put a fence at layer=1, even though
it's on top of the ground. Because then it wouldn't be a barrier to travel
along the ground.
It's attached to the ground... bridges are usually above at least some
ground level
2009/12/15 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com:
Asbolutely nothing. You're wy overthinking this, both of you.
Layers are just a hack to make stuff render. It's not like
It's not a hack, it's an easy way to order some elements when
rendering so things look right. A hack would be using the
2009/12/15 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com:
IMHO, tagging layer=1 bridge=yes for a road going over water is an
example of a hack, and tagging for the renderer. The information
bridge=1 is more than enough to render with, so layer=1 can *only*
be interpreted as giving a renderer a crutch.
2009/12/15 Peter Childs pchi...@bcs.org:
If you have a bridge or a tunnel you don't need a layer tag a bridge
infers it goes over a tunnel that it goes over
Let's start with the basics, we're talking about a water way and a
road way, what if neither is tagged with layer or tunnel or bridge
2009/12/15 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com:
That's the right thing to do.
Right is a preconceived notion, in this case it's the lazy thing to
do, not nessicarily the right thing to do.
Not if you document them. I agree that you can't leave everything up
This is where explicit tagging can
2009/12/15 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com:
Um, the layer tag helps specifically *only* in cases with bridges over
bridges...which are exceedingly rare. So I would dispute your premise
that the layer tag always helps on a bridge.
And tunnels over tunnels, possibly multi-story underground car
2009/12/15 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com:
Carefully talking out what these sane defaults are, documenting, and
using them is not the lazy thing to do.
You are assuming people are going to go to lengths to read such doco
and more to the point understand the implications and as a result
alter
2009/12/15 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com:
My argument stands. There is no need to tag layers *except* in those
situations. And in those situations, layers are absolutely required.
(Well, except that underground car parks are/will be tagged as
underground...and again, a convention should be
2009/12/17 Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org:
On Thursday 17 Dec 2009 1:03:16 pm Andreas Labres wrote:
Patrick from talk-at found this by chance:
http://openmaps.eu/
They seem to be reinventing the wheel, somehow...
license looks proprietary
From their copyright page:
As our name
2009/12/17 Emilie Laffray emilie.laff...@gmail.com:
2009/12/17 Jean-Marc Liotier j...@liotier.org
The quality of OpenStreetMap's work speaks for itself, but it seems that
we need to speak about it too - especially now that Google is attempting
to to appear as holding the moral high ground
2009/12/17 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com:
What a pity the whole basis for Copenhagen is a complete and utter
sham, it's true global warming is man made, the moment some men
started fudging the figures and lying about anything that disagreed
with political agendas.
Sure the world
2009/12/17 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com:
Hmm, no one thought of registering Open Maps as a trademark as well as
OpenStreetMap?
Weren't you the one agreeing with me that the words open and free
have been abused too much and are too ambigious the other day?
2009/12/17 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com:
What do people think? (No comments on how to tag land reserves, it's just an
example...)
Nice idea, but you are painting yourself into a corner as you limit
the fall back to a single option.
It'd be better if you could go from most specific to
2009/12/17 Shalabh shalab...@gmail.com:
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 6:19 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
As we all know, you don't tag for the renderer. However, you want your
map data to render nicely now, and you want correct map data in the long
term.
Suggestion:
2009/12/17 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com:
Nah. Only the smart mappers would even think of using it.
And people that CP...
Nah. It doesn't matter enough. I would see it mostly as a personal thing for
the mapper, to know that at least *something* will render.
Don't tag it until your
2009/12/17 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org:
Hi,
Robert Scott wrote:
Oh look another non-scientist giving his authoritative opinions about
climate science.
THIS is what I want to hear on osm-talk.
I'd love to hear about the nationality of the US president, the veracity
of the moon
2009/12/17 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com:
That's completely at odds with standard OSM advice: tag however you want.
You only want to tag stuff that renders, so update the render style
sheet then tag it, if you don't care about it rendering first just tag
it but your comments are specifically
2009/12/17 Robert Scott li...@humanleg.org.uk:
On Thursday 17 December 2009, John Smith wrote:
What a pity the whole basis for Copenhagen is a complete and utter
sham, it's true global warming is man made, the moment some men
started fudging the figures and lying about anything that disagreed
2009/12/17 Richard Mann richard.mann.westoxf...@googlemail.com:
4) And maybe I do some rendering myself...
I actually offered him help/resources the other week on the talk-au
list with regards to style sheets, perhaps I was a little too subtle
:)
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2009/12/18 Shalabh shalab...@gmail.com:
So, lets map and wait for the renderers to catch up.
Or if he were really serious about this he'd come up with a suitable
break down list of most specific to least specific way existing tags
already in use could render and then provide suitable patches for
2009/12/18 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com:
As others have stated this should have gone to the tagging mailing list.
What's not scalable about it - presumably that you have to tag a fall back
Your suggestion as is only copes with 1 alternative, rather than
gracefully falling back to less
2009/12/18 Emilie Laffray emilie.laff...@gmail.com:
But for the time being, if you want a custom rendering you will be using
your own pc or server. If you are interested in a relatively simple
If he wants to play about I have an instance of mapnik he can play
with setup already.
He could also
2009/12/18 Anthony o...@inbox.org:
Honestly, I don't see the harm in having lots of tags that everyone else can
happily ignore. At least, not when they're added by hand. The only real
harm is a small fraction of space in the database. When it comes to massive
imports (tiger:*=*) or editor
2009/12/18 Kevin Peat ke...@kevinpeat.com:
If it is because of the license then we should take the opportunity to make
sure our new license is friendly to these kind of applications and uses as
what is the point of creating a free map if only a minority of people are
ever going to see it.
2009/12/18 Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com:
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 7:46 AM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
I'll keep investigating the idea of a centralised rules table
though.
Cool - if so, it might be interesting to see how this could relate to
the wiki also, not just
2009/12/18 Apollinaris Schoell ascho...@gmail.com:
should be deleted then. Burning man follows a no trace policy. as
alternative it must be at least tagged different to disappear from maps.
This was discussed a while back, OSM isn't about the here and now
there is some historical information
2009/12/18 Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com:
As I was considering doing a similar thing for Glastonbury, I was
wondering what the consensus on mapping temporary (but regular) structures?
Most people seem to tag it as if it exists all the time, I think in
the case of burning man, it tends to shift
2009/12/18 Nakor nakor...@gmail.com:
Hello,
I see that the newest Archos has a built-in GPS. Does anyone know if it
is possible to record traces with it? Is it possible to use other maps
besides the Tele-Atlas one that they sell?
Is that the one that uses android as the OS?
2009/12/18 Stephen Hope slh...@gmail.com:
often cosmetic cleanups. The bulk of creation was done by other
users. I wonder how much this applies to mapping.
I've pondered about this before but I came to the conclusion that
mapping is a little different than adding knowledge to a wiki. You can
2009/12/18 Nakor nakor...@gmail.com:
On 12/17/2009 08:53 PM, John Smith wrote:
2009/12/18 Nakor nakor...@gmail.com:
Hello,
I see that the newest Archos has a built-in GPS. Does anyone know if it
is possible to record traces with it? Is it possible to use other maps
besides the Tele-Atlas
2009/12/17 Jean-Marc Liotier j...@liotier.org:
held. But in the eye of the public, the $5 UNICEF donation to the
home country of the winner of the Map Maker Global Challenge lets them
SteveC has already mentioned this, but offering financial insentives,
even if people can't profit from them
2009/12/18 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com:
Aw c'mon, Google Maps doesn't giv[e] anything away of real worth to
anyone? Tell that to the millions of people who use it on a daily basis. A
high quality, high performance, extremely reliable mapping platform.
That is one aspect of maps, but not
2009/12/18 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com:
2009/12/18 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com:
Aw c'mon, Google Maps doesn't giv[e] anything away of real worth to
anyone? Tell that to the millions of people who use it on a daily basis. A
high quality, high performance, extremely reliable
2009/12/18 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com:
Uh...you're preaching to the choir, dude. Of course they hoard, of course
that limits what you can do with the data - but that doesn't make them evil.
I never said hoarding was evil, I said it was greedy...
A free magazine with advertising is
2009/12/18 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com:
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 1:06 PM, Erik Lundin e...@lists.lun.nu wrote:
Yeah! Maybe we have to increase our efforts to announce that we exist? I
joined OSM in May 2008, but would have done it earlier if I had found
out about it before.
I would
2009/12/18 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com:
So much hate...
So much ignorance, see I can do that too...
So much hate...
So much ignorance...
Ok, I misunderstood. So your position is:
1) Google gives maps away, which people want.
2) In exchange for their privacy.
3) Which makes them
2009/12/18 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com:
Oh? I don't see them here. Within the map window I see a copyright notice,
but that's it.
The reduce the map frame size and put the ad along the bottom of the
map, also when taking a screen shot of this they also add ads on the
left hand pane.
2009/12/18 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com:
As a veteran of approaching 10,000 edits on Wikipedia, I can tell you that
most of them came from outside my own personal knowledge. See a gap,
There would come a point where you will run out of things to
learn/care about, or are you planning to
2009/12/18 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com:
I think I made one or two tiny changes. Wasn't game to make any major
changes at that stage, though I have made suggestions on talk pages. I
really think there needs to be a shift away from talking about GPS'ing to
talking about editing, as the
2009/12/18 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com:
I'm not running out any time soon :)
I was commenting on the amount per time, not that there is nothing
left to write up about.
Got bigger problems to deal with first.
Just pointing out that the amount of stuff that could be mapped is
potentially
2009/12/18 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com:
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 4:29 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com
wrote:
While it's a noble pursuit to help a specific demographic I think it's
important not to exclude others in the process, most areas I've lived
in in the last 12 months
2009/12/18 Peter Körner osm-li...@mazdermind.de:
*but* i think this is nothing that we should do -- instead we should go
in conversation with the original author.
Flickr guys wished for 4D tagging, for things like photos taken at
burning man so you can geo-position them on the relevent map data
2009/12/18 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org:
Hi,
Apollinaris Schoell wrote:
should be deleted then. Burning man follows a no trace policy.
I don't see why that should be relevant to us. China follows a no
mapping policy - do we care?
Isn't that like photos, they can prevent your from
2009/12/18 Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com:
So that's the situation. I decided to represent the temporality by adding
start_date and end_date tags to the 2008 data, one of the suggestions of
I agree with comments on the 4D page about this that
start_date/end_date is a bit conflicting with
2009/12/18 Aun Johnsen li...@gimnechiske.org:
Just a suggestion that I think will satisfy both camps:
When the burning man us remapped (i.e. moved), add the prefix burning_man:
to all tags, that will retain them in the database, erase them from maps,
but still allow for special interest maps
2009/12/18 David Earl da...@frankieandshadow.com:
Of course, all photos should be geolocated in four dimensions of the
space-time continuum not just lat,lon but lat,lon,altitude and timestamp.
Silly? Perhaps a bit OTT at present, but...
Silly until altitude sensors/chips get a lot better...
2009/12/18 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com:
Whatever you like, but I'm not seeing the link. I/you/anyone could fix the
wiki now...why the need for a local entity? Why do you really want to create
a new website?
Because it's easier that trying to spend time/effort getting the main
OSM site
2009/12/19 Aun Johnsen li...@gimnechiske.org:
Fotos are already timestamped, both in EXIF (together with GeoCode), and in
the file itself. That should give you enough data for setting the foto in
the time axis of a 4D map.
I know some cameras give you bearing and angle above/below the
horizon,
2009/12/19 Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com:
Those who are interested in historical maps will need to know about
the 4th dimension and whatever tags are involved. Those who aren't,
shouldn't need to.
Initially it may well be a niche activity, but long term roads move
etc, and it's often
2009/12/19 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com:
Anyway, have a look, and as usual, let me know if anything doesn't look
right. Any suggestions for further improvement welcome.
You've included tags, like abutters, that are supposed to be phased
out because they're now redundant because of
2009/12/19 Ulf Lamping ulf.lamp...@googlemail.com:
It's not up to a statistical tool to judge about tags in this way.
Then do it right and include details of the last 6 weeks or so etc,
are you interested in what's current or what was current 2 years ago?
I want to see what *is* in use by
2009/12/20 Ulf Lamping ulf.lamp...@googlemail.com:
It's up to you to write a tool like this. I would probably love it.
Steve was asking for suggestions to improve his, why do I need to do
yet another tool simply for the sake of it?
But I want to avoid the problems that arises when someone
2009/12/20 Ulf Lamping ulf.lamp...@googlemail.com:
You are talking about how the OSM world is - as you see it from your point
of view. This will *always* be subjective, regardless of who is doing this
judgement.
See below.
The past has shown that a lot of stuff according to OSM tagging is
2009/12/20 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com:
On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 2:56 AM, Lars Francke lars.fran...@gmail.com
wrote:
Another limitation is that the data is from sometime in August 2009.
I'm currently rewriting OSMdoc to be continuously updated and to
include historical data.
Cool,
2009/12/20 Anthony o...@inbox.org:
Reverse engineer it. And quick, before CC-BY-SA goes away, and tiles don't
have to be released under a free license.
That would only matter for new tiles created under a new license, not
current tiles.
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2009/12/20 Anthony o...@inbox.org:
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 7:57 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
OpenStreetMap does not have deprecated features, as anybody is allowed
and encouraged to use any tag they think is useful.
Geez, with rules like that maybe it would be better to start
2009/12/20 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org:
Given your respective locations maybe you could simply agree that Spain
is roughly at the equator from your point of view?
I didn't know aussies had such bad geography knowledge :P
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2009/12/20 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com:
On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 1:41 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com
wrote:
You're not the first to notice this either, came up a feww weeks/month
ago.
Yeah, I see that one post on the mailing list, but no followup. Where are
the keen cyclists
2009/12/20 Anthony o...@inbox.org:
Yeah. At least the renderers have some sort of authoritative structure
(presumably none of them say that anybody is allowed and encouraged to add
any code they think is useful, though I suppose a mapnik stylesheet could
They can submit any RFE they think to
2009/12/20 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com:
Or decideous, decidous, deciduos, deciferous(!):
http://osmdoc.com/en/tag/wood/
You also have to make assumptions here about non-native english
speakers, an extension might be to provide a translated list that can
be imported into editors that
2009/12/20 Nop ekkeh...@gmx.de:
from _every_ map. Weekly updates are now considered lame. And less than
full world-wide coverage is lame, too. :-[
Dunno about others, but the server I'm running for us to play with for
aussie aspects only has south east asia and oceania...
Technically speaking
2009/12/20 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com:
this is already tried at the editor level (e.g. JOSM Presets), but also has
some limits:
- there is not an English word for all words in all other languages (an
example we had some time ago on the German ML: Schloss and Burg which
2009/12/20 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com:
I'm not saying it's easy to get the hardware to make this happen for
multiple renderings, like CloudMade can do. But it's important, if we want
to attract more users.
I've been suggesting putting more emphasis on tiles in the past but
without much
2009/12/21 Richard Bullock rb...@cantab.net:
Oh, come on! Minutely rendering of Mapnik is an recent development. The
original contributors to OSM *did* have to wait a while to see any changes.
Sometimes more than a week. And you can't say OSM hasn't come on since then
can you? It can't be that
2009/12/21 80n 80n...@gmail.com:
OK, so if we tilt Spain enough then Girona is in southern Spain. Cool...
So where does Nice in france fit in? They've just had snow and ice :)
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Actually it would be more informative to only count new user accounts
after they make say 5 or more edits, total number of accounts aren't
that useful for anything beyond PR spiels, what is useful is people
making edits.
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When does anyone plan to use SSL to protect passwords and users on OSM?
I noticed the other day about how JOSM puts this in it's MOTD:
Your username and password are sent to the server unencrypted. If you
do not like this, do not upload.
While I'm aware that this is occurring, many others may
2009/9/21 Richard Weait rich...@weait.com:
Rule
Filter[highway] = 'motorway' and [length] = 8/Filter
MaxScaleDenominator100/MaxScaleDenominator
MinScaleDenominator100/MinScaleDenominator
ShieldSymbolizer name=ref face_name=DejaVu Sans Bold
size=10 fill=#fff
2009/12/23 Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu:
It's on my to do list to create a CSR and give to it to Grant.
openssl req -nodes -new -keyout private.key -out server.csr
There are some issues to work out with regard to what we protect though as
we don't really want to be using SSL for all the API
-- Forwarded message --
From: John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com
Date: 2009/12/23
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Why doesn't OSM implement a simple measure to
protect it's users and passwords?
To: Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org
2009/12/23 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org:
Why
2009/12/23 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org:
No, you didn't give any reasons, you just basically claimed that SSL
protects users and passwords, and I said that I think neither is the case.
It is a common fallacy to think so.
In the sense that it protects bits going over the internet that is a
2009/12/23 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org:
I don't value privacy above all else. Name a jurisdiction you think respects
privacy, and then let us evaluate
Even if I were to do all this you would simply rebuff me with more
time wasting endeavours, as you pointed out you care about everything
2009/12/23 Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com:
i had an idea recently, that it might be possible to map a stream or
small river (in an area with poor aerial photo coverage) by using a
gps in a waterproof container attached to a flotation device
I had the same thought in about June, but
2009/12/23 Chris Hill o...@raggedred.net:
John Smith wrote:
So what exactly is it in your opinion that I could be doing that I'm
not already?
Cut down the number of trolling posts you make to the mailing lists.
What did you add to this discussion exactly, at least I'm following up
on a bug
2009/12/23 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com:
2009/12/22 Charlie Ferrero char...@cferrero.net
Ditto showing custom station symbols (e.g. the London Underground
symbol, or a non-copyright version of same). It's much harder to spot a
tube stop on the OSM london map than it is on the
2009/12/23 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com:
yes (btw: similar is probably not what would be permitted, I guess it must
be identical to get permission), but I'm pretty sure as soon as we
implement them, we'll get thousands of those (fuel stations, fast-food,
supermarkets, drugstores)
2009/12/23 Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org:
On Tuesday 22 Dec 2009 8:46:39 pm John Smith wrote:
I don't value privacy above all else. Name a jurisdiction you think
respects privacy, and then let us evaluate
Even if I were to do all this you would simply rebuff me with more
time wasting
2009/12/24 John McKerrell j...@mckerrell.net:
Lol, you guys.
I've got one of these which is nice as a small relatively cheap
tracker: http://is.gd/5xCPn
It's not perfect, fiddly to set up (can work with my
site http://mapme.at though) and only pings updates every 30s maximum.
Battery's not
2009/12/24 Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com:
Currently, it's my understanding that, if you're running Ubuntu and
want to contribute by tracing imagery, you have to follow the
instructions here:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Plugins/WMSPlugin#On_Ubuntu_9.10_.27Karmic_Koala.27
Is
2009/12/26 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com:
I don't mean to troll, but why is security important for OSM exactly? My
bank details, yes. My email, yes. But OSM? What am I afraid of, that someone
will ruin my reputation by making edits under my account? Edits that can
subsequently be
2009/12/26 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason ava...@gmail.com:
On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 04:28, Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com wrote:
Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason writes:
No it's wrong, imagery now works with JOSM out of the box if you fetch
the wmsplugin.
it's not working for me. I get red Exception
2009/12/26 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com:
That situation exists already. Nothing is stopping someone from signing up
for thousands of accounts then using them all simultaneously.
And that would be easy to deal with, since the only edits would be
malicious if this is the intent, what about
2009/12/26 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com:
That situation exists already. Nothing is stopping someone from signing up
for thousands of accounts then using them all simultaneously.
I just thought of another situation, when sites don't protect users'
privacy someone usually comes up with a
2009/12/26 Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com:
Still no mention of mapping data, though. Does being closed in that
I don't see data being any different than code, it will be open only
if it will benefit them, or at the very least won't hurt them, eg the
African data they released.
2009/12/26 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com:
2009/12/26 Matt Amos zerebub...@gmail.com:
On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 9:38 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com
wrote:
I don't think OAuth is a valid security method.
why not?
Unless cryptography is involved how do you know your packets
2009/12/26 Matt Amos zerebub...@gmail.com:
because OAuth does cryptographic signing of the requests.
Via a clear channel, which can be proxied and mangled and so on.
OSM is already being attacked by some vandals and some spam bots. but
none of these attacks have been against the
2009/12/26 Lars Francke lars.fran...@gmail.com:
Hmmm one of us doesn't understand OAuth or we have a different
understanding of what _mutual cryptographic authentication_ is.
As others have said, without SSL it can still be brute forced so
that's not exactly what I was thinking.
SSL can use
2009/12/26 Matt Amos zerebub...@gmail.com:
which means there's no argument here for using SSL on vodafone.
I have no idea what Voda is up to, because they would throw up all
sorts of warning messages from browsers, even on phones, and users
would complain endlessly. SSL is usually left alone if
2009/12/26 Matt Amos zerebub...@gmail.com:
it seems that SSL isn't being left alone.
I'm not in the UK so I can't test it, can anyone confirm this is
actually happening?
given sufficiently many signatures, it's possible to brute force a
single token with a very large amount of effort.
2009/12/26 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org:
Do you now suggest that OSM should encrypt tile access, or do you suggest
OSM should ignore those people who are willing to go to such lengths to
protect their privacy?
I'm just pointing out what people have done in the past and what they
could do
2009/12/26 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org:
1. What do we want to protect?
This depends who you ask.
2. Whom do we need to protect us against?
At this stage mostly spammers, accidental incidents and malcious
incidents, but with current growth rates is the level of current
issues going down
2009/12/26 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org:
Right. So you're not saying that encrypted tile access would do anything to
fix this situation. Good, because that's my opinion also.
I wasn't asking for encrypted access to tiles (although it would be
nice), I only ever mentioned things like APIs
2009/12/27 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com:
I gather the convention is to mark any unsurveyed road which one has some
information as simply highway=road, on the basis that you know nothing
else about it. But what about when the information comes from high quality
imagery (like nearmap in
2009/12/27 Anthony o...@inbox.org:
That said, I personally find the highway tagging guidelines difficult to
apply anyway. In states without formal legal road classifications we might
as well mark everything except motorways and service roads as road for all
I can tell. Anything else is just
2009/12/27 Anthony o...@inbox.org:
I have this insane theory that if the renderers just outright refused to
color roads without speed limit tags, these tags would get added a lot
quicker. Once you have roads and speed limits, the question of which roads
are the quickest way to go usually can
2009/12/27 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com:
In Australia there is this legacy speed limit sign for people with
racing licenses that they can drive any speed they wish, everyone else
is limited to 100, how exactly do you map that? (and I saw one such
sign only the day before yesterday
2009/12/27 Anthony o...@inbox.org:
On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 11:39 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com
wrote:
2009/12/27 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com:
In Australia there is this legacy speed limit sign for people with
racing licenses that they can drive any speed they wish
2009/12/27 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com:
2009/12/27 Anthony o...@inbox.org:
On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 11:39 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com
wrote:
2009/12/27 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com:
In Australia there is this legacy speed limit sign for people with
racing
2009/12/27 Stephen Hope slh...@gmail.com:
2009/12/27 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com:
In Australia there is this legacy speed limit sign for people with
racing licenses that they can drive any speed they wish, everyone else
is limited to 100, how exactly do you map that? (and I saw one
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