On 3 February 2010 06:13, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote:
What's with the wiki-fiddler hatred? (not just you, Richard, in
general) All those people advocating for a consistent/enforced/limited
tagging scheme - how do you think such a scheme should be produced?
The big problem with
On 3 February 2010 07:45, Claudius claudiu...@gmx.de wrote:
Just a sidenote: Although it seems to be the showcase of OSM the mapnik
rendering at www.openstreetmap.org is *NOT* what OSM is about. OSM is
No but it's a carrot, most people most of the time are only going to
map what they can see
On 3 February 2010 09:32, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
It can't be the murky details of cycleways and bridleways because the
commercial providers don't have that, or if they have it then only in
selected areas. It can't be highway=path and all that because they don't
have it. It
TomTom promising daily map updates In an exclusive article [in
German], the German business magazine WiWo (Wirtschaftswoche) quotes
TomTom CEO Harold Goddin: „Bis Ende des Jahres werden wir alle ein bis
zwei Tage aktualisierte Karten zum Download anbieten“ (German
original) Until end of 2010 we'll
Any way, back to the original post Nokia is saying Nav4All's is wrong...
http://www.tietokone.fi/uutiset/nokia_kiistaa_kilpailijan_navigoinnin_tappamisen
On 4 February 2010 06:24, Chango640 chango...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm sending this mail in order to propose a new feature for the tag landuse:
gated communities. These are a type of private neighbourhoods that are very
common in Argentina, Brazil and many other countries, and have a notorious
On 4 February 2010 08:50, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:
AFAIR the barrier=fence should not be applied to an area, what means
in pratical to draw a second way atop the area limits (not really
elegant). Another approach is to tag fenced=yes to the area (don't
know if someone
On 4 February 2010 12:04, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote:
But you're right, he probably should be terminated.
Is blocking the account going to be enough to prevent someone from
simply signing up for a new account and continuing to do what they
were unabbated, seems like a cat and mouse
On 4 February 2010 14:58, Randy rwtnospam-new...@yahoo.com wrote:
Maybe a more subtle approach would work, i.e., have a bot remove his edits
x days after they are saved. That way he can make his changes, show his
similarly idiotic friends what he has done, and they will be deleted when
he no
On 4 February 2010 21:02, Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl wrote:
This of course comes after blocking on email address proves ineffective.
And we even have blacklists for blocking certain get for free e-mail
domains from ever registering.
I've dealt with this on a project before in a similar
On 4 February 2010 22:26, Nic Roets nro...@gmail.com wrote:
Google certainly has been the disruptor, by building their own maps for the
US so quickly.
Google loves data and has been collecting up data sets from local
governments in return for google earth licenses, then there is the
tiger data
On 5 February 2010 10:24, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote:
I don't care about all the companies that don't want to use OSM.
I think that's a pointless crass statement.
I'm still waiting to hear why the company mentioned previously doesn't
want to use OSM, what was wrong with the current
On 7 February 2010 21:26, Tirkon tirko...@yahoo.de wrote:
The difference between pub and nightclub is, that latter have got a
dancefloor. Thus it is inscrutable to me, why pubs are shown in Mapnik
but nightclubs are not. Thus: Could the nightclubs be shown in Mapnik
as well?
If you want
On 7 February 2010 22:05, Tirkon tirko...@yahoo.de wrote:
Thanks for your answer, John. I found this site already before. The
problem is, that one needs insider knowledges, to send a ticket. I do
not have any clue, what to choose under type and ticket
properties. What is i.e. task, xapi,
On 8 February 2010 01:12, Tirkon tirko...@yahoo.de wrote:
I do understand, that OSM-people will not be responsible for malicious
use, possibly death of innocent humans caused by them or their work.
But this could be caused also by you, if you buy something and thus
support a person, who will
On 8 February 2010 12:23, Jeffrey Ollie j...@ocjtech.us wrote:
What's more annoying is that he is changing the names/refs. From
what I understand the ref is supposed to be only the
interstate/highway number (e.g. 90 or 80) and not I 90 (MN). I
use the ref on the relation when building maps
On 9 February 2010 11:01, Chris Hunter chunter...@gmail.com wrote:
Moving back to one of my original questions, I think Nakor was the only one
to respond to the 2 relations per state (1 relation each way) vs 1 relation
with rolls per state question.
Why does there need to be 2 relations for
On 9 February 2010 11:14, Apollinaris Schoell ascho...@gmail.com wrote:
One can always create a super relation to collect both directions into one
relation.
Why do you need a super relation just to apply roles?
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On 9 February 2010 11:21, Apollinaris Schoell ascho...@gmail.com wrote:
besides editing convenience a relation is directed and sorted since API 0.6
You can see it as a route to follow from start to end. For bus routes this
is a must. 2 relations may use the same road in different directions. on
On 9 February 2010 12:20, Apollinaris Schoell ascho...@gmail.com wrote:
what is wrong with 2 relations?
I didn't say 2 are needed but why do you think 2 is bad?
It creates redundant data, and makes it easier to get conflicting data
if both aren't updated consistently.
It also gives people the
On 9 February 2010 13:47, Apollinaris Schoell ascho...@gmail.com wrote:
1) theory: tags on the super relation will always supersede tags lower in
hierarchy. conflicting tags don't matter.
Actually this is disjointed, ways should override relations and
relations should override super relations.
Yes, all you are doing is coming up with work arounds to current
issues, the issues should be fixed properly.
Apart from the obvious you aren't uploading/download every single
object referenced by the relation every time you edit it, and the
references to objects in the relation should still be
On 9 February 2010 14:00, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, all you are doing is coming up with work arounds to current
issues, the issues should be fixed properly.
Apart from the obvious you aren't uploading/download every single
object referenced by the relation every time
On 9 February 2010 14:14, Apollinaris Schoell ascho...@gmail.com wrote:
see the difference is I have done such edits and many others have done it. We
know what we are talking about.
do it and you will never write something ignorant and stupid as this.
As I said, the problem seems to be too
On 9 February 2010 14:14, Apollinaris Schoell ascho...@gmail.com wrote:
see the difference is I have done such edits and many others have done it. We
know what we are talking about.
Then why didn't you report a bug so less information is attempted to
be returned? You still have the problem,
On 10 February 2010 21:13, Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de wrote:
For example antenna's in the same tower at different heights.
Does Matt's code evaluate node tags at all, or only the lat/lon?
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On 10 February 2010 23:17, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote:
But now, the OSMF should speed-up the transition ! We are many contributors
that are reluctant to modify or improve existing data because of the threat
that many old or minor contributions will disappear - not because people
will
On 10 February 2010 23:45, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
Truth is, you can legally be an asshole.
I wasn't comment on the ethics of doing so, merely if it could be done
legally, the sticking point here is people that won't respond and what
to do about their past contributions, not
On 15 February 2010 07:22, Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com wrote:
http://yro.slashdot.org/story/10/02/14/0857256/Australian-Judge-Rules-Facts-Cannot-Be-Copyrighted
Already has been on the talk-au list:
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-au/2010-February/005461.html
On 16 February 2010 11:13, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote:
This is good; we're doing well with highway=path/footway
I wonder if they asked about cycling at all, or limited it to just
walking/cars...
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On 16 February 2010 03:52, specimail-for...@yahoo.fr wrote:
As I consider it is ready for use, I send this Request for comments.
See you on Talk page:
Just use it, don't worry about if it's official or not, although it
is good to check to see if there are other similar tags and try and
find
On 16 February 2010 22:49, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote:
I don't think that Navteq's users Jimmy Choo's are ever going to get mud
on them.
Maybe they can get some paint on mud like they do for 4wd;s that never
leave the city :)
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On 21 February 2010 09:50, Martijn van Exel mve...@gmail.com wrote:
- Is anybody working on Indoor maps AND would like to talk to me about it. I
will do a paper for theWhereBusiness news letter on that. ( I know some of
the volunteers are working on it and it would be great to ask them how
On 21 February 2010 21:35, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
Now we can either adopt a free-for-all approach where we encourage
everyone to leave their feedback without spending 10 seconds on
understanding how this map is generated, and then have a lot of work in
post-processing
On 22 February 2010 01:37, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote:
Streetbugs encourages people to 'get others to do it' when OSM should be
encouraging them to 'do it yourself'
While it'd be nice if people would fix any problems themselves, I
don't think OSM's website is at the point where some
Anyone on the outside seeing this won't be inspired to learn to fix
any errors people are trying to get fixed...
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On 22 February 2010 06:10, Jochen Plumeyer joc...@plumeyer.org wrote:
Be aware of your time zone (and daylight savings timezone as well) of your
camera, as GPX times are all in lon=0°/ Greenwich/ UTC/ Zulu time.
Actually they are in GPS time, and have an offset in seconds from UTC
embedded in
On 22 February 2010 13:17, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote:
Was that meant to disagree or agree with what I said or what?
Everyone keeps complaining that OSB is the wrong approach, it will
create too much work, but no one has any proof of what will happen,
and current bugs listed aren't much of
On 23 February 2010 06:41, Niklas Cholmkvist towards...@gmail.com wrote:
I think it is because I like to map with much detail. I like to map it
'as it really is'.
In reality you are only mapping an approximation, maps aren't supposed
to replace aerial imagery they serve different purposes.
On 23 February 2010 07:53, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 7:12 AM, Carsten Gerlach daswaldh...@gmx.de wrote:
Yes, that's right, have a look at http://osm.org/go/0MBdEXMHO- for example.
That looks great, and so simple... highway=* for the way, AND
Until you
On 23 February 2010 08:05, David Paleino da...@debian.org wrote:
I remember someone complaining with me that routers not supporting
highway=* + area=yes in the same relation with a normal highway=*,
might get confused -- and that something like landuse=road would be
better.
Wouldn't
On 23 February 2010 14:10, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote:
I was initially impressed with the German example of area mapping but
I have had a change of heart. While an interesting experiment, and
relatively well implemented in the small test area, I just don't think
area mapping of
On 23 February 2010 16:22, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
I only found one (the one about directional information, in the case of a
one-way road) to be correct. The other 5 were complaints about how the
current renderers work.
Anyway, I do think there is one major problem with mapping
On 23 February 2010 16:43, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
We've got all the tools we need - nodes and relations. With them we can
build anything else we want.
I'm sure people said the same thing about ways and nodes, why did we
need relations?
It has the potential to reduce redundent
On 23 February 2010 17:30, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
Perhaps they did, but they would be wrong.
Because of hindsight?
Relations are recursive - they can contain other relations. Ways can only
contain nodes.
You missed the point, I'm just giving examples to show that people who
think
On 24 February 2010 00:36, Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk wrote:
The other thing I have in mind to do is a POI collector for Android
devices. I seem to remember there being an interest in this before
Christmas when the Mapzen collector for the iPhone was launched - and I've
just
On 24 February 2010 00:33, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
No, because ways aren't powerful enough to build complex data structures.
This coming from someone using closed ways to describe what you are
saying can't be done... :P
If it turns out there's something in your design which really can't
2010/2/24 Tomáš Tichý t.ti...@post.cz:
I have tried BTC mapper and it is almost unusable (doesn´t work
without GPS signal, can´t place POI to another place than my location,
weird and uneditable presets).
It's being worked on at present, the current preset system didn't work
out as well as we
On 24 February 2010 06:17, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote:
In the middle we have a bunch of thought on how the site should or shouldn't
be. Legitimate questions about putting the map or help up front, or using OSB
or uservoice, or some new system, or something. But nobody can agree with
On 24 February 2010 07:30, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote:
For the 3 millionth time, I'm not proposing uservoice for map bugs! :-)
Well the same question goes for any proposal, but you keep mentioning
them, but the question is still valid when you do start looking at
solutions:
how hard would
On 24 February 2010 08:22, Kevin Peat ke...@kevinpeat.com wrote:
Just tried mapdroyd today which is closed source but has the useful feature
of offering OSM maps in precompiled packages which I would certainly like
(or at least to have a decent tile cache facility) as the 3G coverage is
pretty
On 24 February 2010 07:54, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote:
The outstanding question here is whether a relation should be used to
relate the way to the corresponding area.
This is exactly the kind of thing relations were designed to be, a
grouping mechanism of objects that are related.
On 24 February 2010 08:00, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote:
should be relatively easy with OSB or similar?
That's my point, OSB is already integrated into JOSM and I realise
uservoice has a few other things going for it, but integration into
existing editors will make fixing bugs a lot simplier
On 24 February 2010 09:42, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote:
You don't seem to make any realistic suggestions for moving forward and just,
instead, suggest potlatch is fine as is the front page. That doesn't seem to
be in touch with the reality of every newbie who encounters the project, does
On 24 February 2010 18:48, Simone Cortesi sim...@cortesi.com wrote:
Any plan to make it compatible with the HTC TATTOO? I've tried to
download it from the android market, but with no success.
Is this due a problem with smaller screen sizes?
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On 24 February 2010 19:13, Simone Cortesi sim...@cortesi.com wrote:
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 09:58, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
Any plan to make it compatible with the HTC TATTOO? I've tried to
download it from the android market, but with no success.
Is this due a problem
Something I'd like to see in either PL1 or whatever replaces it is a
tutorial mode that then corrects people's mapping efforts or makes
suggestions on what they could have done better etc. Getting stuff
displayed on a map, but getting instant feedback about mapping by
newbies would go a long way,
On 25 February 2010 01:06, Richard Mann
richard.mann.westoxf...@googlemail.com wrote:
Chill guys. I still just about remember being a newbie, and I didn't
find Potlatch crap.
I have a fairly technical background, and it took a 2nd look 6 months
later for me to do anything of significance.
When
On 25 February 2010 19:42, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote:
I would suggest that Potlatch is left alone for its devotees.
I'd start with the following in the design brief for the Newbie Editor
Can add nodes, label them with default tags only (other than name).
Can add ways, again default tag list
On 25 February 2010 20:10, Richard Mann
richard.mann.westoxf...@googlemail.com wrote:
Error-checking sounds like a great way of putting scary pop-ups on the
screen to frighten newbies. So you'd have to be very very careful how
clear they were. If in doubt leave them out. Leave these bugs to be
On 25 February 2010 22:23, Emilie Laffray emilie.laff...@gmail.com wrote:
A full Javascript implementation is certainly possible with some of the new
feature that are only in some browsers (read forget all browser except for
I think you are over playing this, the openlayers JS can already do a
On 26 February 2010 19:03, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
he used the user page to say what his primary account is and what he's
using the lkrevert user for.
ikrevert = i kan revert maybe?
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If you turn on data on the main OSM website you get an overlay of
all the ways and nodes that are tagged. While this is not an editor it
wouldn't be very hard to extend the information pane so that you can
update information, not just view it if you are logged in.
On 26 February 2010 19:44, Dave Stubbs osm.l...@randomjunk.co.uk wrote:
There are two big advantages of a simple mode to an existing full editor:
- you don't have to write the OSM handling parts again, even a simple
editor needs to cope with some quite complex things
- you provide an easy
On 26 February 2010 20:31, Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk wrote:
This requires more server side intelligence though... for example, the
server needs to auto-detect if someone tries to add a POI with the same
name and type within a certain distance of an already-existing POI, and
On 26 February 2010 22:38, Dave Stubbs osm.l...@randomjunk.co.uk wrote:
if you're doing anything that involves not just POIs (and for various
OSM reasons that's increasingly not so useful). This is more about
good design than an inherent property.
Actually that's what most of this discussion
On 27 February 2010 21:17, silversurfer silversur...@oleco.net wrote:
I think it would be great if the newbie editor would also work on mobile
phones / smartphones. I think these devices will get more and more
important. Perhaps browser-based. With the same user experience.
Touch screens make
On 1 March 2010 03:17, Mike N nice...@att.net wrote:
Is there a good argument to omitting the state abbreviation from the
ref? Will the end result of changing to just a number be usable by the
Highway Shields project? The common reference County road 49 comes to
You can use admin
On 1 March 2010 04:03, Mike N nice...@att.net wrote:
That doesn't help in this case: for example a US highway crosses multiple
states, but is always assigned the same shield.And there is nothing in
This is just a pre-processing problem before going into pgsql for
mapnik, or whatever
On 1 March 2010 05:01, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote:
However, a given administrative area may well contain country-level,
state-level, and county roads. If a given road is tagged with only a number,
what indicates which one of these is meant? Also, it is not unusual for a
On 1 March 2010 05:41, Apollinaris Schoell ascho...@gmail.com wrote:
network=CO (county)
network=S (state)
why duplicate redundant info, requires double care when a roud is
up/downgraded. isn't it better this way
The brackets were meant for explanation purposes only.
On 1 March 2010 06:03, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote:
But in OSM, we try to avoid abbreviations when possible. Then you don't have
to explaine later again and again what means CO or add a note or a
reference to a wiki page. network=county is not so long and clear for
everyone.
Simply because
On 2 March 2010 03:28, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
Yeah. Anyone know how they're doing this? It's stuff like this that makes
me think that a free, non-profit project is always going to be many steps
behind the big boys when it comes to this domain.
Google like all companies has limited
On 2 March 2010 04:36, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
Wikipedia is a whole different beast. It'll likely be replaced by Google
when and if Google come out with a breakthrough in natural language
processing. It looks like that breakthrough has already come in terms of
creating a 3D model of
On 4 March 2010 10:55, Kate Chapman k...@maploser.com wrote:
Also we need ideas for the booth. I was thinking having a computer
set-up where people could edit immediately in OSM. Essentially 'Heard
of OSM and never edited? Try it now! Any other ideas?
Atlas type maps of the area show casing
On 5 March 2010 17:17, Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com wrote:
i've recently mapped a park which contains a basin. when the tiles
render, the whole area, including the water, renders green. how would
i tag this so the renderer understands the water bit should be treated
as water, and
On 6 March 2010 01:24, Bernhard zwischenbrugger b...@datenkueche.com wrote:
Google Cache Time:
Cache-Control: public, max-age= //feels like one month (I
didn't calculate)
I'd say it's a bad idea to specify a cache time, instead there is
other caching mechanisms to tell if a tile has
On 6 March 2010 17:52, Bernhard zwischenbrugger b...@datenkueche.com wrote:
In browser the load time is even worse.
What you really need is your own tile server, or a specalised proxy
that serves up what ever tiles it has cached and checks in idle time
if requested tiles have changed.
Forcing
On 7 March 2010 13:59, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote:
Actually, the theoretical situation you described (food to be either eaten
on the premises or carried out, but alcohol for on-premises consumption only)
is the actual situation for restaurants here in Nashville, Tennessee,
On 7 March 2010 22:26, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote:
And in my country, the limit of alcohol for car drivers is 0.5 mg/l of
blood. So we should add a driver:max_alcohol=0.8. And, as it was suggested
in another thread for maxspeed, it should be added in all highways of the
country, of course.
On 9 March 2010 02:54, Robert (Jamie) Munro rjmu...@arjam.net wrote:
Note that the lat and lon are the wrong way round, and there is a
comma after the elevation (there shouldn't be). I managed to mangle my
It would have been nice to get a bug report about this, if I wasn't on
this mailing list
On 12 March 2010 17:50, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
Hi,
jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote:
If all the code and all the tools we used were to be licensed costly
software, who would pay for OSM?
We'd all use Google Map Maker then. Under Safari ;-)
What about Mapzen under IE?
On 12 March 2010 18:27, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
Mapzen doesn't count - it is open source ;-)
So is potlatch, but that doesn't seem to have stopped people from
complaining about it being non-free for some reason...
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On 20 March 2010 18:50, Tirkon tirko...@yahoo.de wrote:
The most annoying thing, I wish I had known before is, that editors
destroy things without any warning, but you do not have the chance, to
take notice of that fact.
I.e. potlatch destroys the correct order of the ways in a route
On 20 March 2010 20:00, Teemu Koskinen teemu.koski...@mbnet.fi wrote:
That only helps if the images are just offset by some amount, it doesn't
help at all if they are warped, rotated etc.
See eg. the centre of Helsinki: http://elanor.mine.nu/daeron/wavy.jpg
All the red lines are completely
On 20 March 2010 21:07, Tirkon tirko...@yahoo.de wrote:
John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
you shouldn't have to know this.
I am the opposite opinion, because ...
It is really hard, to setup in particular a long route relation. You
I meant the editor shouldn't screw up relations
On 20 March 2010 22:52, Tirkon tirko...@yahoo.de wrote:
The problem is, that - as far as I know - every person may offer an
editor. If this is true, with more and more editors the problem will
grow in future. Cause one popular editor, that is not aware and does
not follow these roules, could
On 20 March 2010 23:05, Bernhard zwischenbrugger b...@datenkueche.com wrote:
But how to do the gps to xy transformations?
That's not an OSM issue so much as an OpenLayers issue...
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On 22 March 2010 10:12, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
browsers to reduce problems, especially with newbies that don't get
editors, now browsers...
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On 22 March 2010 07:35, Mike N. nice...@att.net wrote:
How will boundary relations help? They must still refer to a closed way
in order to define the administrative boundary.
Maybe he meant re-use the road as part of a relation, instead of
having 2 ways that share the same path...
Due to
On 22 March 2010 12:24, Mike N. nice...@att.net wrote:
In your point b), do you mean that if we did use boundary relations that
there would not be an issue with boundaries and roads being co-mingled and
mis-edited?
The problem with this is when boundaries or roads move independent of
each
On 22 March 2010 13:31, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
1) How so? In the worst case scenario you have an equal-sized mess. Can
you give an example?
Because you are trying to hit a moving target...
2) In most cases of road-realignment you generally *want* to move the
boundary at the same
On 22 March 2010 13:53, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
What does that mean?
It means you probably haven't done much with boundaries and have yet
to experience the pleasure of people screwing them up repeatedly
because they're linked to other objects...
Postcodes are a whole different story. At
On 22 March 2010 14:15, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
YOU said that I meant re-use the road as part of a relation. But in fact
I did not. My position on that is that sometimes that is a good idea. And
sometimes it isn't. It's really case-dependent. If a boundary is legally
And how would
On 22 March 2010 14:32, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
By reading the legal definition, of course. Same way I'd determine what the
border is in the first place.
How many borders in the US are there exactly?
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On 22 March 2010 14:51, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 12:42 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com
wrote:
On 22 March 2010 14:32, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
By reading the legal definition, of course. Same way I'd determine what
the
border is in the first
On 22 March 2010 15:09, Bernhard zwischenbrugger b...@datenkueche.com wrote:
Sorry:
Southwest: 0,0
Northeast: 90,180
Are you after the middle WGS points or the middle points on a mercator grid ?
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On 22 March 2010 17:32, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:
There has to be a very good reason for REMOVING any data, and the assertion
that
we can in general 'remove multiple ways' is only acceptable if the project is
also going to adopt the rule 'we will never map detail'? Perhaps it is
On 22 March 2010 17:30, Jochen Topf joc...@remote.org wrote:
On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 07:59:18PM +0100, osm-dortmund dortmund wrote:
As of now, the high-resolution aerial photographs of the Dortmund company
Aerowest http://www.aerowest.de for the area of the city of Dortmund are
available. For
On 23 March 2010 21:56, David Earl da...@frankieandshadow.com wrote:
I wonder whether they might be interested in offering us some units for
testing?
Using inertial navigation the accuracy deteriorates considerably over time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inertial_navigation
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