Re: [OSM-talk] Announcing Daylight Map Distribution

Mikel Maron wrote : > "you don't really know what you're talking about" is a rude thing to say. it why I said "I get the impression that..." > And expressing a belief that FB is not capable of doing this to a small, or > even large degree, is not based on any factual inquiry of what they've

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Mar 10, 2020, 23:17 by m...@teczno.com: > things we filtered out individually because we found a problem with them > Once this is separated out it may be interesting to use. Especially if one will be able to filter by error/heuristic type. Maybe some will report serious issues not detected by

Re: [OSM-talk] Announcing Daylight Map Distribution

how do i fix a local mistake, as a local, that goes on for miles.   >Tuesday, March 10, 2020 5:13 AM -05:00 from Volker Schmidt : >  >  >  Fixing stuff in OSM purely from imagery may not be good. > >A local mapper who sees something may add it before any satellite imagery has >it. > >If you

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I heard Mapbox is working on this and divide data spatially not as a sequence of changeset. My impression would be that this way you could produce a "nice looking map" but most likely it will break for routing purposes in most horrible ways where ways suddenly are not connected anymore as some

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On Mar 10, 2020, at 3:17 PM, Michal Migurski wrote: > Thanks Mikel for your followup! > > In response to your recommendation that we publish what *didn't* make it > through the filter process, we released an OSC diff file: > > >

Re: [OSM-talk] Announcing Daylight Map Distribution

Thanks Mikel for your followup! In response to your recommendation that we publish what *didn't* make it through the filter process, we released an OSC diff file: https://daylight-map-distribution.s3.amazonaws.com/pbf/planet-2020-03-06_v0.1.osc.bz2

Re: [OSM-talk] Announcing Daylight Map Distribution

On Mon, Mar 09, 2020 at 05:08:10PM -0700, Michal Migurski wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I’m writing to let you know about a new OpenStreetMap project Facebook > just released. It’s called Daylight Map Distribution. Daylight is a > complete, downloadable preview of OpenStreetMap data we plan to start

Re: [OSM-talk] Announcing Daylight Map Distribution

Similar to what Mikel described as "what Mapbox has set up," I humbly suggest that Facebook offer the wider OSM community (here on OSM-talk is a good place to do so) something similar. As we (here) better understand what, exactly, Facebook's QA processes are as they use (and improve) OSM data,

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> But "you don't really know what you're talking about" is a rude thing to say. And expressing a belief that FB is not capable of doing this to a small, or even large degree, is not based on any factual inquiry of what they've done.Thank you. We cannot really know how Facebook is working on

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Thanks Mike and Facebook for doing this. I commented on your diary post, but also adding to the coversation here. It's great to have this insight out and available. There's a good tradition of downstream data processing and redistribution in the community (you could call them packages I

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It's fair to point out that "no malicious vandalism or unintentional errors" is overdoing it, no one can claim 100% on this.  But "you don't really know what you're talking about" is a rude thing to say. And expressing a belief that FB is not capable of doing this to a small, or even large

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Michal Migurski wrote > Only those edits which have been validated to contain no malicious vandalism > or unintentional errors so we can show them in our display maps I get the impression that you don't really know what you're talking about. There are many "complaints" that FB does not respond

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bout this and planned it to integrate in my concept. >> >> >> Original Message >> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Announcing Daylight Map Distribution >> From: Joseph Eisenberg >> To: Sören Reinecke >> CC: Volker Schmidt ,talk@openstreetmap.org >> &g

Re: [OSM-talk] Announcing Daylight Map Distribution

- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Announcing Daylight Map Distribution > From: Joseph Eisenberg > To: Sören Reinecke > CC: Volker Schmidt ,talk@openstreetmap.org > > > My understanding is that the common way to describe armchair mapping, > based on aerial im

Re: [OSM-talk] Announcing Daylight Map Distribution

Thanks for your feedback, Christoph. The “100%” is accurate because there’s no data released in Daylight that hasn't previously passed through the OSM.org database. When we observe errors and fix them manually, we make our edits to OpenStreetMap like any other editor. I’m

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nies and> the community as well know how to validate and can distinguish changesets> from another. I could create a wikipage where we think about this "changeset> governance">> Cheers>> Sören Reinecke alias Valor Naram>>> Original Message >

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that would be VERY nice, if you managed to achieve this. On 10/03/2020 06:46, Sören Reinecke via talk wrote: In addition if the mapper works for a company: # e.g. #facebook #amazon #microsoft #apple I've been asking about the '#apple' hashtag, for quite a while, straight from Andrew Wiseman,

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> > > > This way we can organize our changes and Facebook and other companies and > the community as well know how to validate and can distinguish changesets > from another. I could create a wikipage where we think about this "changeset > governance" > > Cheers

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On Tue, 10 Mar 2020 at 21:14, Volker Schmidt wrote: > I expect this Facebook operation to produce much more changes or potential > changes (=suspected errors). > What we need for both cases and similar ones in the future is a way of > being able to identify such changes, which by their nature

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Heysome ideas about identifying such changes:Example changeset comment where a mapper did armchair mapping:Data updated, added amenity=restaurant#armchairIn addition if the mapper works for a company:#e.g. #facebook#amazon#microsoft#appleExample changeset comment where a mapper did a survey and

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My proposal : survey > aerial imagery. So its the aerial imagery mapper who has to check that its aerial imageries are more recent than the last changes made with survey sources. That’s something I do often when I see weird differences. (So we put the load on the big companies instead of the

Re: [OSM-talk] Announcing Daylight Map Distribution

On Tuesday 10 March 2020, Michal Migurski wrote: > > • A PBF planet file composed of 100% OSM data, released under the > terms of the Open Database License. • Only those edits which have > been validated to contain no malicious vandalism or unintentional > errors so we can show them in our

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Fixing stuff in OSM purely from imagery may not be good. > > A local mapper who sees something may add it before any satellite imagery > has it. > > If you then 'fix' this back to the satellite imagery you will have > committed an error, > and that error may dissuade our most important resource

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Fixing stuff in OSM purely from imagery may not be good. A local mapper who sees something may add it before any satellite imagery has it. If you then 'fix' this back to the satellite imagery you will have committed an error, and that error may dissuade our most important resource from ever

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Hi Joseph, thanks for your questions! We are unsure yet about the public release schedule we want to commit to, because a lot of it depends on community feedback which we’re getting now. I hope we will do this again! We do correct OSM upstream for the errors that we find. When our human review

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Interesting! That sounds like a huge amount of work, if you are validating every changeset in the globe, though so far there is no schedule to release this frequently. Thank you for following the Open Database license by releasing this to the public. Is facebook planning to create new planet

[OSM-talk] Announcing Daylight Map Distribution

Hi everyone, I’m writing to let you know about a new OpenStreetMap project Facebook just released. It’s called Daylight Map Distribution. Daylight is a complete, downloadable preview of OpenStreetMap data we plan to start using in a number of our public maps: