Re: [OSM-talk] DWG survey on organised editing

2017-10-18 Thread john whelan
Having just witnessed a major screw up by a local University who didn't understand how we do things and managed to both mess up the map and the 150 student assignments a wiki community written guideline would be a good start. The intentions were good but the impact wasn't for both sides and it

Re: [OSM-talk] DWG survey on organised editing

2017-10-18 Thread Yves
That's a good point, starting with an OSMF guideline, then after a while, a policy if needed. Or do you mean a wiki community written guideline? Yves Le 18 octobre 2017 03:05:28 GMT+02:00, john whelan a écrit : >Probably what we could do with is a set of guidelines

Re: [OSM-talk] DWG survey on organised editing

2017-10-17 Thread john whelan
Probably what we could do with is a set of guidelines for people organising mapping groups. This is not policy so much as best practices. Could this be done before we thrash out a policy? Thanks John On 17 Oct 2017 8:27 pm, "Frederik Ramm" wrote: > Hi, > > the results

Re: [OSM-talk] DWG survey on organised editing

2017-10-17 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, the results are in! https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Data_Working_Group/Results_of_Organised_Editing_Survey_2017 Thank you everyone who participated. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33"

Re: [OSM-talk] DWG survey on organised editing

2017-10-06 Thread Frederik Ramm
Everyone, On 20.09.2017 06:51, Paul Norman wrote: > The Data Working Group is conducting a survey as part of its work on a > policy covering paid mapping. We plan to close the survey on Sunday night (at 23:59:59 UTC), that's 2 days and 16 hours from now. We'll then take some time to analyze the

Re: [OSM-talk] DWG survey on organised editing

2017-09-24 Thread Greg Troxel
I think the survey asks excellent questions. One nit is that while I think the notion of paid/organized as a single notion is generally good, I do see a distinction in one area, and might have answered the anonymous question differently for the two sub-groups. Besides paid and unpaid, there is

[OSM-ja] Fwd: [OSM-talk] DWG survey on organised editing

2017-09-21 Thread Satoshi IIDA
/nyampire/items/c801b0bc562436951f9a -- Forwarded message -- From: Paul Norman <penor...@mac.com> Date: 2017-09-20 13:51 GMT+09:00 Subject: [OSM-talk] DWG survey on organised editing To: Talk Openstreetmap <t...@openstreetmap.org> The Data Working Group is conducting a su

Re: [OSM-talk] DWG survey on organised editing

2017-09-20 Thread James
Thank you Frederik for the clearification, so a Stammtisch as you call it would not be affected by the policy unless there was outside influence(unexperienced mapper that says map this in osm, example: political/voting districts(which is why the policy would be there to tell them that this is not

Re: [OSM-talk] DWG survey on organised editing

2017-09-20 Thread James
It was an example of "organised editing". If a "local group" invites newbies/other people to edit a specific thing (sidewalks, buildings, roads etc) does that policy cover them as well or are they counted more as "normal mapping"? One could argue that: "We define other organised mapping (or

Re: [OSM-talk] DWG survey on organised editing

2017-09-20 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 20.09.2017 13:17, James wrote: > Also does organised mapping include groups that hold little mapathons? > Example a local mapping group from Vancouver, Toronto, Montreal or > Ottawa decide to say map sidewalks in their city. It's an organised > event. Would they be included as well? > >

Re: [OSM-talk] DWG survey on organised editing

2017-09-20 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Wednesday 20 September 2017, James wrote: > Also does organised mapping include groups that hold little > mapathons? Example a local mapping group from Vancouver, Toronto, > Montreal or Ottawa decide to say map sidewalks in their city. It's an > organised event. Would they be included as well?

Re: [OSM-talk] DWG survey on organised editing

2017-09-20 Thread James
Also does organised mapping include groups that hold little mapathons? Example a local mapping group from Vancouver, Toronto, Montreal or Ottawa decide to say map sidewalks in their city. It's an organised event. Would they be included as well? The terms used in this survey seem a little vague

Re: [OSM-talk] DWG survey on organised editing

2017-09-20 Thread john whelan
In the case of organised mapping such as the Statistics Canada organised efforts whom would you like to respond? Remembering that some of the terms used in the survey such as change set are such that a senior manager wouldn't have the faintest idea of what the term means and some of the players

Re: [OSM-talk] DWG survey on organised editing

2017-09-20 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Wednesday 20 September 2017, Paul Norman wrote: > > The survey is available at https://osm-dwg.limequery.org/741554 Looks good. To get a broad spectrum of opinions i would encourage everyone to participate - even those who usually just map on their own without much interaction with the

[OSM-talk-be] Fwd: [OSM-talk] DWG survey on organised editing

2017-09-20 Thread joost schouppe
-- Forwarded message -- From: Paul Norman <penor...@mac.com> Date: 2017-09-20 6:51 GMT+02:00 Subject: [OSM-talk] DWG survey on organised editing To: Talk Openstreetmap <t...@openstreetmap.org> The Data Working Group is conducting a survey as part of its work on a pol

Re: [OSM-talk] DWG survey on organised editing

2017-09-19 Thread Nicolás Alvarez
2017-09-20 1:51 GMT-03:00 Paul Norman : > The Data Working Group is conducting a survey as part of its work on a > policy covering paid mapping. Thanks for this, I think it's an important topic. In Argentina we're dealing with an organization or program that is "teaching" school

[OSM-talk] DWG survey on organised editing

2017-09-19 Thread Paul Norman
The Data Working Group is conducting a survey as part of its work on a policy covering paid mapping. When OpenStreetMap started, it was largely a project of hobbyists contributing to OSM in their spare time. They chose freely what to map and which tools to use, and they took individual