On Tue, 29 Dec 2009, John Smith wrote:
> These days all public roads should be named,
note "should"
I couldn't get find a name for one rural road, emailed the relevant Council
(Cabonne Shire) and the naming proposal was stuck somewhere in the
bureaucracy.
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2009/12/29 John Smith :
> In Australia unclassified usually only applies to rural roads, at
> least that's what was agreed upon before I was involved, although the
> Europeans also use it for industrial areas that are wider/straighter
> than their narrow windy little residential streets. As a resul
2009/12/29 Roy Wallace :
> 1) if it is a named/public road:
> * residential if lined primarily with people's homes and used
> primarily by people accessing those homes
> * unclassified otherwise
In Australia unclassified usually only applies to rural roads, at
least that's what was agreed upon b
2009/12/29 Steve Bennett :
> What about service roads? They're lined with houses, and used primarily by
> people accessing those homes. Surely highway=service.
Ask 10 people and you'd probably get 10 different answers...
> Also, what about weird dinky little strets you sometimes get in suburbia
>
2009/12/29 Roy Wallace :
> That depends what you mean by "service road". Following the scheme
> given by 1) and 2) above: If it's named/public, highway=residential.
> Otherwise, highway=service.
I generally tag lane ways as highway=service, as that's what they
generally are, service access to the
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 3:05 PM, Steve Bennett wrote:
>
>> My 2 cents: anything that is less important than tertiary is:
>>
>> 1) if it is a named/public road:
>> * residential if lined primarily with people's homes and used
>> primarily by people accessing those homes
>> * unclassified otherwis
Steve Bennett wrote:
> Also, what about weird dinky little strets you sometimes get in suburbia
> that are paved with red bricks or something equally creative, but are
> also the primary means of access to houses? Residential or service?
highway=living_street if signage says that pedestrians ha
Roy Wallace wrote:
> My 2 cents: anything that is less important than tertiary is:
>
> 1) if it is a named/public road:
> * residential if lined primarily with people's homes and used
> primarily by people accessing those homes
> * unclassified otherwise
> 2) service otherwise (unnamed or restr
On Tue, 29 Dec 2009, Franc Carter wrote:
> I believe (correctly ?) that in general roundabouts don't have names
> in Australia
Some do, but the majority don't
South Hay Roundabout (the first in NSW, 1974)
Goolgowi Roundabout (by common usage)
Kissell's Roundabout with a sign in place to declare it
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Roy Wallace wrote:
>
> My 2 cents: anything that is less important than tertiary is:
>
> 1) if it is a named/public road:
> * residential if lined primarily with people's homes and used
> primarily by people accessing those homes
> * unclassified otherwise
> 2)
I've submitted a request for Potlatch.
http://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/2583#preview
Boy what a weird thread. I'm still puzzling over how this:
Steve: Hear, hear. Would be good in potlatch too.
turned into:
John: Your post was completely useless, why didn't you just post a bug
instead of try
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 2:34 PM, Steve Bennett wrote:
>
> highway=unclassified is a truly awful tag. I believe it made sense in the
> UK, where that's an actual category of road, but it's very hard to apply
> here, and it's really not clear what the difference between unclassified,
> residential,
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Steve Bennett wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 12:22 AM, Ross Scanlon wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 21:50:58 +1100
>> Liz wrote:
>>
>> > On Sun, 27 Dec 2009, Ross Scanlon wrote:
>> > > But it's just one more reason to use josm.
>> > In JOSM you can use copy an
On Tue, 29 Dec 2009, Steve Bennett wrote:
> And like you said, what difference is there really between a road that goes
> past factories and one that goes past homes?
here b**er all
but in parts of Europe where town plans date from the Middle Ages, apparently
a lot.
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Geoff wrote:
> Which raises another point how do I link all the bits that I have mapped
> into one one way or put in a relation to make it a route. Or do I just
> work around it by naming all the bits as Linear park track?
>
>
A relation is best for long bike path
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 10:30 PM, Richard Colless wrote:
> From a user's point of view, I would expect to see major roads one colour,
> secondary roads another colour. I wouldn't expect to see a different colour
> just because a road goes past factories instead of homes. Do "unclassified"
> and "
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 12:22 AM, Ross Scanlon wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 21:50:58 +1100
> Liz wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 27 Dec 2009, Ross Scanlon wrote:
> > > But it's just one more reason to use josm.
> > In JOSM you can use copy and paste
> > so I can draw one roundabout with 8 or 12 nodes
> > t
2009/12/28 Richard Colless :
> From a user's point of view, I would expect to see major roads one colour,
> secondary roads another colour. I wouldn't expect to see a different colour
> just because a road goes past factories instead of homes. Do "unclassified"
> and "residential" both render to th
2009/12/27 John Smith :
> Although the bbox does allow a few locations in from south eastern
> asia, but then you can load the file into JOSM and run searches on it,
> but it doesn't seem easy to search on the version number of an object,
> not sure why but I've filed a bug about this:
>
> https://
I thought I had miniature railways rendering but it seems I had a
small problem with the SQL in the mapnik config on btc server, but I
have miniature railways rendering again now:
http://maps.bigtincan.com/?z=17&ll=-28.852,153.050&layer=B0TT
2 down (http://maps.bigtincan.com/?z=18&ll=-26.
2009/12/28 Richard Colless :
> From a user's point of view, I would expect to see major roads one colour,
> secondary roads another colour. I wouldn't expect to see a different colour
> just because a road goes past factories instead of homes. Do "unclassified"
> and "residential" both render to th
highway=unclassified
good deal of discussion about this
so another point of view is "residential" for those industrial area streets
and unclassified is a road classification below tertiary in rural areas
(there is no conclusion about this, whether this statement
2009/12/28 Liz :
> On Mon, 28 Dec 2009, Ross Scanlon wrote:
>> On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 20:19:11 +1100
>>
>> Richard Colless wrote:
>> > When tagging roads, what do you use for roads in a purely industrial
>> > area? There isn't anything for "industrial", so I've been changing
>> > "unknown" and "No pr
On Mon, 28 Dec 2009, Ross Scanlon wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 20:19:11 +1100
>
> Richard Colless wrote:
> > When tagging roads, what do you use for roads in a purely industrial
> > area? There isn't anything for "industrial", so I've been changing
> > "unknown" and "No preset" to "residential" wh
[snip]
> By the way, I've now got JOSM to work with Yahoo images, and tried it out on
> this job. I'm not impressed. Image resolution is crap compared to Potlatch.
Have a look at using NearNap instead
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/NearMap_PhotoMaps
Recent(ish) versions of the SlippyMap plu
On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 20:19:11 +1100
Richard Colless wrote:
> When tagging roads, what do you use for roads in a purely industrial area?
> There isn't anything for "industrial", so I've been changing "unknown" and
> "No preset" to "residential" when adding in street names.
highway=unclassified
John Smith wrote:
2009/12/27 John Henderson :
Richard Colless wrote:
I was trying out the latest routable OSM maps, and came across a couple
of odd items. One was a roundabout where the Etrex told me to go round
it in the wrong direction - anti-clockwis
Thanks to all
I'll fix it with making the railway a bridge I think that is most
appropraite as the stream runs next to the footway and the railway
crosses both.
Geoff
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Hi Evan
Alfread Street does go over the train track.
Geoff
Evan Sebire wrote:
> >From memory isn't the train line raised for a long sections including the
> station. So using the bridge=yes or bridge=viaduct on the train line would
> be
> appropriate with the layer tag as Ross suggested.
>
2009/12/8 Steve Bennett :
> On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 2:59 PM, Elizabeth Dodd wrote:
>>
>> don't know what is avail in potlatch overall
>> a is 'add' mode
>> s is 'select' mode
>> d is 'delete' mode
>> u is unselect
>
> Oh yeah, good old modal editing :) It's like using vim. I found this
> horribly t
On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 18:45:40 +1100
Geoff wrote:
>
> Thanks for the help in advance.
>
You may also want to have a look at:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features
and
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines
As I noticed you tagged a set of traffic lights as
I wrote:
> As a relative newcomer myself, it's occurred to me that you might be
> trying constructing a bridge over the cycle path by modifying that path.
>
> But you'd need to modify the railway line to make a bridge over the path.
>
> In that case, tag a section of line with:
>
> bridge=yes
On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 19:20:49 +1100
Liz wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Dec 2009, Geoff wrote:
> > Geoff
> > New to OSM
> > New to Warragul
> > New to Australia and that is why I am here I started using OSM on my
> > South Africa bought Garmin and started a new hobby of mapping. :)
> welcome
> but beware our
Geoff wrote:
> Hello
>
> I am slowly mapping parts of Warragul and cycled the shared use path in
> Linear park. The cycles track runs under the Bairnsdale line railway at
> one point and I was wondering how to map this. I thought about making
> two points on the way a bridge but JOSM would not all
>From memory isn't the train line raised for a long sections including the
station. So using the bridge=yes or bridge=viaduct on the train line would be
appropriate with the layer tag as Ross suggested.
I think the Alfread St road crossing should be under the train track from
memory?
http://ww
On Mon, 28 Dec 2009, Geoff wrote:
> Geoff
> New to OSM
> New to Warragul
> New to Australia and that is why I am here I started using OSM on my
> South Africa bought Garmin and started a new hobby of mapping. :)
welcome
but beware our sense of humour
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2009/12/28 Ross Scanlon :
> On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 16:09:22 +1000
> John Smith wrote:
>
>> 2009/12/28 John Smith :
>> > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Custom_Highway_Shields
>>
>> I've now listed the default highway shields for Australia but there
>> may be some ones in other states they may need
On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 18:56:46 +1100
John Henderson wrote:
> Roy Wallace wrote:
> > Anyone know what the deal is with this?:
> > http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/316607432
>
> Here's another one that seems out by hundreds of metres to me, and from
> the same source:
>
> http://www.openst
> I am slowly mapping parts of Warragul and cycled the shared use path in
> Linear park. The cycles track runs under the Bairnsdale line railway at
> one point and I was wondering how to map this. I thought about making
> two points on the way a bridge but JOSM would not allow this. Do I have
> to
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