Re: [talk-au] maxspeed - best practice?

2012-08-14 Thread Ian Sergeant
Hi, a) The thing is, if you don't tag maxspeed=50, then how do tell a residential road that is known to be maxspeed=50, against one that is just un-surveyed, and might be maxspeed=30,40 or 60? c) source:maxspeed=sign is clearly correct if there is a sign. If you've surveyed around an area, and

Re: [talk-au] Fixing relations in Canberra

2012-08-14 Thread Nick Hocking
Mark wrote Can someone help with a couple of these in the ACT? Certainly can, I'll drive them tonight and/or tomorrow morning and we'll get them them sorted out. From memory the routes diverge near the circles and we have to take ALT 23 into account as well. Cheers Nick

Re: [talk-au] maxspeed - best practice?

2012-08-14 Thread Michael James
On 08/14/2012 03:30 PM, Ben Johnson wrote: In regards to residential areas - I remember last year there was some talk about the bot that added 50 with the (incorrect) maxspeed:source key = default residential speed limit in Australia and I think there was consensus in the local community that

Re: [talk-au] maxspeed - best practice?

2012-08-14 Thread Ian Sergeant
On 14 August 2012 19:37, Michael James m.ja...@internode.on.net wrote: 2. Guidelines for highway=residential and highway=unclassified The guidelines http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway give the direction that if houses are on the side of a minor road then it should be tagged

Re: [talk-au] maxspeed - best practice?

2012-08-14 Thread Leon Kernan
Most software will make assumptions about the max speed based on road type if it's not specified (for better or worse). Having it recorded is still the best way if known though. Also today, Vicroads has announced that speed zones will be changing around Victoria again. Getting rid of 70's and

Re: [talk-au] Fixing relations in Canberra

2012-08-14 Thread Nick Hocking
Ok - I've just driven 23 and 52 and Alt 23 (well not the entire lengths of course). Southbound 23 (the signs never say NR or NH, just 23 in a shield) comes down Commonwealth Avenue swings left into Capital Circle (not State Circle) then onto Canberra Avenue. At Monaro Highway it turns right and

Re: [talk-au] Fixing relations in Canberra

2012-08-14 Thread John Henderson
On 14/08/12 22:27, Nick Hocking wrote: Still until the licence change is complete I'm not about to add any new stuff. JOSM 5356 says License change data redaction is finished, if that's what you mean. John ___ Talk-au mailing list

Re: [talk-au] maxspeed - best practice?

2012-08-14 Thread Ben Johnson
On 14/08/2012, at 16:44, Ian Sergeant inas66+...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, a) The thing is, if you don't tag maxspeed=50, then how do tell a residential road that is known to be maxspeed=50, against one that is just un-surveyed, and might be maxspeed=30,40 or 60? Yes... always the exceptions

Re: [talk-au] maxspeed - best practice?

2012-08-14 Thread Ben Johnson
Hi John, I really like this, but I think your source:maxspeed=AU:urban below is a typo. It would be simply maxspeed=AU:urban Does anyone else have thoughts on this? Could this be our default (site-unseen) for residential streets - or is this an across-the-board solution and we combine it

Re: [talk-au] maxspeed - best practice?

2012-08-14 Thread John Henderson
On 15/08/12 02:26, Ben Johnson wrote: I really like this, but I think your source:maxspeed=AU:urban below is a typo. It would be simply maxspeed=AU:urban The problem is that AU:urban isn't numeric. It isn't a speed at all. John ___ Talk-au

[talk-au] import of state borders?

2012-08-14 Thread Michael Krämer
Hi, first of all a quick introduction: I'm one of those armchair mappers trying to assist in cleaning up the mess after the redation bot. When doing so I've noticed that most of the state and territory borders are gone. I could already reconstruct the straight parts from remaining segments

Re: [talk-au] maxspeed - best practice?

2012-08-14 Thread Ben Johnson
It's part of a traffic zone proposal. It derives values based on the country and type of zone. It looks like it can be an effective way to define an entire set of tags that should apply consistently across a group of ways (eg a method for all ways in a defined built-up area to share a common

Re: [talk-au] maxspeed - best practice?

2012-08-14 Thread John Henderson
On 15/08/12 06:49, Ben Johnson wrote: It's part of a traffic zone proposal. It derives values based on the country and type of zone. It looks like it can be an effective way to define an entire set of tags that should apply consistently across a group of ways (eg a method for all ways in a

Re: [talk-au] maxspeed - best practice?

2012-08-14 Thread Mark Pulley
Quoting Ben Johnson tangarar...@gmail.com: On the subject of tagging site unseen... you brought up a perfectly legit point about routers and efforts made in the past to assist routing engines. I'm just trying to get a sense where our community stands in relation to maxspeed tagging site

Re: [talk-au] maxspeed - best practice?

2012-08-14 Thread Ian Sergeant
Ben Johnson tangarar...@gmail.com wrote: On the subject of tagging site unseen... you brought up a perfectly legit point about routers and efforts made in the past to assist routing engines. I'm just trying to get a sense where our community stands in relation to maxspeed tagging site