Re: [talk-au] 'Named' EV chargers

2022-12-27 Thread Sebastian S.
>From: Ian Steer >Sent: Monday, 26 December 2022 9:56 AM >To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org >Subject: Re: [talk-au] 'Named' EV chargers > >I also agree - but if there are several superchargers at the same location, >do they all get the same name? (probably) > >Ian >

Re: [talk-au] 'Named' EV chargers

2022-12-25 Thread stevea
I mean, people use amenity=charging_station [1], which has a name=* tag. And I think Europe imported a bunch of these over a decade ago. Maybe it's ME who is behind the curve here? Dian and/or Phil linked this / raised this already. Regarding what Warin says, OSM just MIGHT be either "a" or

Re: [talk-au] 'Named' EV chargers

2022-12-25 Thread stevea
There is also a "site relation" [1] (a relation with type=site), useful as a grouping at a single site. I'm not saying this is how EV things have been done, are or will be, rather something to consider as a "might be." These are relations so it's good for them to be orderly and structured,

Re: [talk-au] 'Named' EV chargers

2022-12-25 Thread Dian Ågesson
ay, 15 December 2022 10:34 PM To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org; Phil Wyatt ; 'Warin' <61sundow...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [talk-au] 'Named' EV chargers Hello all, As an EV driver I think that some charge stations have names. I do agree that 'Tesla Supercharger ' is not a name with mu

Re: [talk-au] 'Named' EV chargers

2022-12-25 Thread Phil Wyatt
@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-au] 'Named' EV chargers I also agree - but if there are several superchargers at the same location, do they all get the same name? (probably) Ian On 16 December 2022 1:33:21 pm AEDT, Andrew Harvey wrote: >I think it's reasonable for it to have a name like &qu

Re: [talk-au] 'Named' EV chargers

2022-12-25 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Maybe just name them as Tesla Charger at this Place 1, 2, 3 & so on? Thanks Graeme On Mon, 26 Dec 2022 at 09:00, Ian Steer wrote: > I also agree - but if there are several superchargers at the same location, > do they all get the same name? (probably) > > Ian > > On 16 December 2022 1:33:21

Re: [talk-au] 'Named' EV chargers

2022-12-25 Thread Ian Steer
I also agree - but if there are several superchargers at the same location, do they all get the same name? (probably) Ian On 16 December 2022 1:33:21 pm AEDT, Andrew Harvey wrote: >I think it's reasonable for it to have a name like "Tesla Supercharger >Hollydene, NSW". If Tesla refers to it as

Re: [talk-au] 'Named' EV chargers

2022-12-25 Thread Sebastian S.
I agree with you here. In my view OSM aim should be to have the charger mapped with a 'name' and/or reference so other data consumers can find and relink with additional information. On 16 December 2022 6:55:53 pm AEDT, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > >On 16/12/22 09:54, Phil Wyatt

Re: [talk-au] 'Named' EV chargers

2022-12-25 Thread Sebastian S.
Yes indeed, charging cost is something that is already in flux give the general rise of energy cost and it is going to hopefully be showing cost benefits when we charge during the day when the sun is high. I agree that this is an attribute that is better left off since it will likely not age

Re: [talk-au] 'Named' EV chargers

2022-12-25 Thread Sebastian S.
they get a label in the >>> carto map without people realising that the operator and ref are used for >>> labelling charging stations in that map instance. >>> >>> >>> >>> Other apps may well use other OSM attributes. >>> >>> &

Re: [talk-au] 'Named' EV chargers

2022-12-15 Thread Warin
On 16/12/22 09:54, Phil Wyatt wrote: Thanks folks,  a consumer of EV chargers is unlikely to be using OSM as their primary source for charging information. Its more likely to be an app or in car service. I believe the apps also give information on 'out of service' chargers ... With a

Re: [talk-au] 'Named' EV chargers

2022-12-15 Thread Phil Wyatt
Friday, 16 December 2022 1:33 PM To: Sebastian S. Cc: Phil Wyatt ; talk-au@openstreetmap.org; Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [talk-au] 'Named' EV chargers I think it's reasonable for it to have a name like "Tesla Supercharger Hollydene, NSW". If Tesla refers to it

Re: [talk-au] 'Named' EV chargers

2022-12-15 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Fri, 16 Dec 2022 at 08:58, Phil Wyatt wrote: > > > There are some well attributed chargers out there - > https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/7814409569/ > I'd question having the actual $ cost listed, rather than just fee=yes? We tag servo's as having 91, 98 & diesel, but we don't attempt to

Re: [talk-au] 'Named' EV chargers

2022-12-15 Thread Phil Wyatt
there - https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/7814409569/ Cheers - Phil From: Sebastian S. Sent: Thursday, 15 December 2022 11:56 PM To: Phil Wyatt ; talk-au@openstreetmap.org; 'Warin' <61sundow...@gmail.com> Subject: RE: [talk-au] 'Named' EV chargers Hi Phil, I think you are g

Re: [talk-au] 'Named' EV chargers

2022-12-15 Thread Sebastian S.
her OSM attributes. > > > >Some interesting ‘name’ insights in this post as well > > > >https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/SimonPoole/diary/397565 > > > >Cheers – Phil > > > >From: Sebastian S. >Sent: Thursday, 15 December 2022 10:34 PM >To:

Re: [talk-au] 'Named' EV chargers

2022-12-15 Thread Charles Gregory
monPoole/diary/397565 > > > > Cheers – Phil > > > > *From:* Sebastian S. > *Sent:* Thursday, 15 December 2022 10:34 PM > *To:* talk-au@openstreetmap.org; Phil Wyatt ; > 'Warin' <61sundow...@gmail.com> > *Subject:* Re: [talk-au] 'Named' EV chargers > >

Re: [talk-au] 'Named' EV chargers

2022-12-15 Thread Phil Wyatt
Wyatt ; 'Warin' <61sundow...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [talk-au] 'Named' EV chargers Hello all, As an EV driver I think that some charge stations have names. I do agree that 'Tesla Supercharger ' is not a name with much value. Tesla has names in their app for these charging station

Re: [talk-au] 'Named' EV chargers

2022-12-15 Thread Sebastian S.
ly descriptions or >operators/networks and locations > > > >https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1p4N > > > >Cheers - Phil > > > > > >From: Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> >Sent: Thursday, 15 December 2022 8:00 PM >To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org >Subject: R

Re: [talk-au] 'Named' EV chargers

2022-12-15 Thread Simon Poole
See https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/SimonPoole/diary/397565 while amenity=charging_station is not the worst offender, it is still pretty bad https://github.com/osmlab/name-suggestion-index/blob/main/data/brands/amenity/charging_station.json Am 15.12.2022 um 04:20 schrieb Phil Wyatt: Hi

Re: [talk-au] 'Named' EV chargers

2022-12-15 Thread Phil Wyatt
ap.org Subject: Re: [talk-au] 'Named' EV chargers On 15/12/22 17:11, Ben Kelley wrote: My thoughts: I wouldn't remove the names. It's a big call to say that this thing definitely does not have a name, when someone else says it does, especially if 50% have a name. "Tesla s

Re: [talk-au] 'Named' EV chargers

2022-12-15 Thread Warin
On 15/12/22 17:11, Ben Kelley wrote: My thoughts: I wouldn't remove the names. It's a big call to say that this thing definitely does not have a name, when someone else says it does, especially if 50% have a name. "Tesla supercharger" is not an individual name, probably a brand. And

Re: [talk-au] 'Named' EV chargers

2022-12-14 Thread Ben Kelley
My thoughts: I wouldn't remove the names. It's a big call to say that this thing definitely does not have a name, when someone else says it does, especially if 50% have a name. - Ben. On Thu, 15 Dec 2022 at 14:24, Phil Wyatt wrote: > Hi Folks, > > > > Thoughts on 'named' EV chargers? Around

[talk-au] 'Named' EV chargers

2022-12-14 Thread Phil Wyatt
Hi Folks, Thoughts on 'named' EV chargers? Around 50% of chargers in Oz have some 'name'. Most look to be adding the either the location or name of the operator etc (ie Freds Shop, XYZ carpark, Tesla supercharger etc), I suspect so it gets rendered on the map. Are folks happy if I