Re: [OSM-talk-be] BE Quarterly Project (Schools) - Go !

2016-01-22 Thread Marc Gemis
Glenn has just done 1 town. Yesterday I started using his tool to see how it works on a Mac. IMHO We can't do this on a large scale yet, since the procedure is not yet approved by the import mailing list. Wonder who is going to be brave enough this time to try it. m. On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at

Re: [OSM-talk-be] BE Quarterly Project (Schools) - Go !

2016-01-22 Thread Glenn Plas
On 22-01-16 09:19, Marc Gemis wrote: > Glenn has just done 1 town. Yesterday I started using his tool to see > how it works on a Mac. Actually, it's not 1 town, it's an area : Stekene, Kemzeke, Klein-Sinaai and everything in between. > IMHO We can't do this on a large scale yet, since the

Re: [OSM-talk-be] BE Quarterly Project (Schools) - Go !

2016-01-21 Thread Ruben Maes
Thursday 21 January 2016 08:38:46, joost schouppe: > Come to think of it, a physical school might have several associated > schools from this CSV file. For example if it is a campus, but also when > for some reason the building users can convince the Flemish administration > that they are more

Re: [OSM-talk-be] BE Quarterly Project (Schools) - Go !

2016-01-21 Thread Glenn Plas
On 21-01-16 10:37, Marc Gemis wrote: > Glenn, > thanks a lot for the hard work and the explanation. It looks very promising ! > If you want a beta tester on OSX, feel free to contact me It's been great to look at GRB data and compair. Sounds great to test it on OSX, I'll publish the tool soon. >

Re: [OSM-talk-be] BE Quarterly Project (Schools) - Go !

2016-01-21 Thread Glenn Plas
On 21-01-16 08:59, Jo wrote: > Wow, that's great. I didn't realise you were that far along already. Yeah, I was motivated but documenting all will probably take twice the time, there are many things to account for and keep in mind, but I think the method I used is pretty fast, it took me 3 weeks

Re: [OSM-talk-be] BE Quarterly Project (Schools) - Go !

2016-01-21 Thread Glenn Plas
>> Then you can use Shift to select 2 buildings, move finger to 't' and >> poof, done. http://aptum.bitless.be/movies/stek12.avi You don't even need to select those 2 buildings in most cases: - run the validator - navigate to and select warnings like 'crossing buildings', 'building inside

Re: [OSM-talk-be] BE Quarterly Project (Schools) - Go !

2016-01-21 Thread Marc Gemis
Glenn, thanks a lot for the hard work and the explanation. It looks very promising ! If you want a beta tester on OSX, feel free to contact me Any idea how the "roofs" attached to a building look like after importing ? On the GRB images you see them as areas filled with diagonal lines. Just

Re: [OSM-talk-be] BE Quarterly Project (Schools) - Go !

2016-01-21 Thread Jo
Marc, You mean the tool for the BAG import? Well they must have rewritten it by now, as they are in 'maintenance' mode, nowadays. I haven't looked into it very deeply, it's simply something that occurred to me on their 'nieuwjaarsborrel'. They already have a tool that works and it could work for

Re: [OSM-talk-be] BE Quarterly Project (Schools) - Go !

2016-01-21 Thread Jo
Wow, that's great. I didn't realise you were that far along already. Regarding the Replace Geometry tool. I think it makes sense to remap it to Shift-T. Then you can use Shift to select 2 buildings, move finger to 't' and poof, done. Jo 2016-01-21 9:52 GMT+01:00 Glenn Plas

Re: [OSM-talk-be] BE Quarterly Project (Schools) - Go !

2016-01-21 Thread Marc Gemis
You know that they usually threw away any data that was already there ? I don't know whether the tool allowed you to do it better. On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 6:38 AM, Jo wrote: > About that CRAB import. In The Netherlands they already created a tool to > assist with that for

Re: [OSM-talk-be] BE Quarterly Project (Schools) - Go !

2016-01-21 Thread Glenn Plas
Since I've now written a tool to do this (and tested it), guess I have to react now :) On 21-01-16 05:38, Jo wrote: > About that CRAB import. In The Netherlands they already created a tool > to assist with that for their BAG import. I think we should look into > reusing that, adapted to the data

Re: [OSM-talk-be] BE Quarterly Project (Schools) - Go !

2016-01-21 Thread joost schouppe
How about we set up a meeting to learn how to use the import tool? Would be quite useful for me, and probably more people. 2016-01-21 12:46 GMT+01:00 Ruben Maes : > Thursday 21 January 2016 08:38:46, joost schouppe: > > Come to think of it, a physical school might have

Re: [OSM-talk-be] BE Quarterly Project (Schools) - Go !

2016-01-20 Thread Marc Gemis
On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 9:33 PM, Jo wrote: > I know all the schools in those csv files have an id that can be set in ref, > but that already doesn't work in Wallonia or Brussels. > In the UK they use ref:edubase for the reference. Since the ref cannot be verified in the

Re: [OSM-talk-be] BE Quarterly Project (Schools) - Go !

2016-01-20 Thread Jo
About that CRAB import. In The Netherlands they already created a tool to assist with that for their BAG import. I think we should look into reusing that, adapted to the data we have available. Polyglot 2016-01-21 5:35 GMT+01:00 Marc Gemis : > > On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at

Re: [OSM-talk-be] BE Quarterly Project (Schools) - Go !

2016-01-20 Thread Marc Gemis
On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 5:19 PM, Jasper Michels wrote: > It was mentioned that there exist free datasets for the flemish part. (and > cant we import the building outlines of Agiv?) > At this moment someone is working on converting the GRB data into something that can be

Re: [OSM-talk-be] BE Quarterly Project (Schools) - Go !

2016-01-20 Thread joost schouppe
Come to think of it, a physical school might have several associated schools from this CSV file. For example if it is a campus, but also when for some reason the building users can convince the Flemish administration that they are more than one organization. So your data model should allow for

Re: [OSM-talk-be] BE Quarterly Project (Schools) - Go !

2016-01-20 Thread joost schouppe
On those ID's for Flemish schools There are two fields: schoolnummer and vestigingsnummer. The schoolnummer identifies a cluster of schools, which share certain administrative functions. The vestigingsnummer is (normally) the physical school. To properly identify a school, you need both. When we

Re: [OSM-talk-be] BE Quarterly Project (Schools) - Go !

2016-01-20 Thread Jasper Michels
It was mentioned that there exist free datasets for the flemish part. (and cant we import the building outlines of Agiv?) Is it possible to work out, how to effectively use these sets? I would think its demotivating to do all work manually now in this Quarterly Project, when it could (to some

[OSM-talk-be] BE Quarterly Project (Schools) - Go !

2016-01-20 Thread Bruno Veyckemans
[EN] Hi, As you know, we launched the first BE Quarterly Project in a previous thread, aiming to map every school in Belgium during the first quarter of 2016... The first reactions were great, but it seems we need more implication of Belgian mappers to make it really happen ! The first thing to

Re: [OSM-talk-be] BE Quarterly Project (Schools) - Go !

2016-01-20 Thread Jakka
Is it allowed to use the same key in it self ? like the example http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Belgium/BE_Quarterly_Projects amenity=parking in amenity=school (area) and the key "leisure" within "amenity" (or vice versa ??) Bruno Veyckemans schreef op 20/01/2016 om 12:10: [EN]

Re: [OSM-talk-be] BE Quarterly Project (Schools) - Go !

2016-01-20 Thread Marc Gemis
On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 12:40 PM, Jakka wrote: > Is it allowed to use the same key in it self ? like the example > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Belgium/BE_Quarterly_Projects > amenity=parking in amenity=school (area) and the key "leisure" within >