Re: [OSM-talk-be] mapping farm-shop

2016-04-21 Thread Marc Gemis
I followed the discussion on tagging about the sell tag. The problem originated from the motorcycle preset in JOSM that had some weird values. Some of those shops sell multiple brands. How can you solve this ? Then they always end up in the same discussion on the tagging mailing list:

Re: [OSM-talk-be] mapping farm-shop

2016-04-21 Thread Glenn Plas
On 21-04-16 15:52, Pieter Brusselman wrote: > I do nut fully agree: If a shop=cheese stops his activity and another is > comming into place eg. shop=bicycle, you also have to re-tag it. Yes, true .. so your point you're trying to prove here is ? I can't deduct this from the above comment.

Re: [OSM-talk-be] mapping farm-shop

2016-04-21 Thread Glenn Plas
On 21-04-16 15:58, joost schouppe wrote: > No amen from me :) - as I just daid: the arguments used can be used for > anything we do. Not at all.. we are in the business of mapping, not groceries lists. You need to stay loyal to the core idea and stop putting information in OSM that is probably

Re: [OSM-talk-be] mapping farm-shop

2016-04-21 Thread joost schouppe
No amen from me :) - as I just daid: the arguments used can be used for anything we do. URLs aren't very stable either. Marc had to change the reference to all historic objects because the Flemish government changed their website architecture. No reason not to do this. I stumble upon out of date

Re: [OSM-talk-be] mapping farm-shop

2016-04-21 Thread Pieter Brusselman
I do nut fully agree: If a shop=cheese stops his activity and another is comming into place eg. shop=bicycle, you also have to re-tag it. In general a farm-shop sells the same category all year round, like meat and vegetables. Or cheese and bread. Or... And as a customer you know that -

Re: [OSM-talk-be] mapping farm-shop

2016-04-21 Thread Glenn Plas
I just had to update my example from 3 years ago because both source and website key have changed. website: went to pretty url's instead of id's source: producer ID changed for unknown reason It's already hard to keep those up to date. If you start putting in volatile and variable data like

Re: [OSM-talk-be] mapping farm-shop

2016-04-21 Thread joost schouppe
Marc, while I do agree that we don't need to do everything, I haven't seen many convincing reasons why not to do a certain thing. Often the arguments used (too complex, who is going to update, imagine what if everyone does this,...) can be used anything we do. And then after a while the people

Re: [OSM-talk-be] mapping farm-shop

2016-04-21 Thread Pieter Brusselman
Hi Joost, That is why I asked my question. We would like to move this content into osm. I have to figure out what the best way is to tag all those info. Pieter Op 21/04/2016 om 13:53 schreef joost schouppe: Though I wouldn't be interested in mapping this myself, I do feel like a project

Re: [OSM-talk-be] mapping farm-shop

2016-04-21 Thread Marc Gemis
or OSM enhanced with an external DB. We do not have to include all data in the world in the DB. But we do need a better way to make it possible to refer to our objects (kind of permalinks). m On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 1:53 PM, joost schouppe wrote: > Though I wouldn't be

Re: [OSM-talk-be] mapping farm-shop

2016-04-21 Thread joost schouppe
Though I wouldn't be interested in mapping this myself, I do feel like a project like should be possible within OSM: http://www.boerenbrood.eu/ ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be

Re: [OSM-talk-be] mapping farm-shop

2016-04-21 Thread Glenn Plas
Use links to their products... after all... it's the internet. example: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1381182781 Greetings, Glenn On 21-04-16 12:42, Pieter Brusselman wrote: > How can I map farm-shops selling different kind of products? Eg. > self-made cheese and potato's? > >

Re: [OSM-talk-be] mapping farm-shop

2016-04-21 Thread Sander Deryckere
I don't think that selling the products is very important. Farm shops typically don't have a very stable range of products, but it all depends on the time of the year (certainly for vegetables). So even if you map what's in the shop now, it could be rather different in 3 months. If it's more

Re: [OSM-talk-be] mapping farm-shop

2016-04-21 Thread joost schouppe
There might be good reason not to do this, I don't know. There is a recent proposal to tag products: sold: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Sells Have a look at the discussion on the tagging mailing list on the subject: