Re: [Talk-ca] Province / State borders

2009-03-31 Thread James Ewen
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 4:59 AM, Richard Weait wrote: > Borders for Vermont and New York appear "bolder" than for Minnesota and > Illinois.  Have they been tagged differently, or duplicated?  Anyone > have a border-checker script? I see something similar near Emerson, MB. Both are tagged as bou

[Talk-ca] GeoBase NHN - FTP not working & quick update

2009-03-31 Thread Sam Vekemans
Hi,Im just trying to download some areas.. and finding that with HTTP download, it downloads files that are corrupt. and the link to the FTP directory is broken. :-( [1] Anyway, while that is down for some reason, I will continue to work on showing more details of the Roads from the CanVec list. H

Re: [Talk-ca] silly borders

2009-03-31 Thread James Ewen
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Richard Weait wrote: > I think relations are the way to go. > Tag the way with the source, uuid and attribution. > Split the way at each prov/state/county/regional municipality junction. > Add tags only at highest level relation for say, name, place, > population

Re: [Talk-ca] silly borders

2009-03-31 Thread Richard Weait
On Tue, 2009-03-31 at 10:00 -0600, James Ewen wrote: > The end result, is that I would concur that the GeoBase borders are > much closer to the real world location than the manually input border, > or the USGS imports. > > So, now we need to clean up the erroneous data. > > The county outlines in

Re: [Talk-ca] silly borders

2009-03-31 Thread James Ewen
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 8:47 AM, James Ewen wrote: > On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 7:41 AM, Brent Fraser wrote: > >> And for those who like to parse latitude and longitude: >> >> http://www.internationalboundarycommission.org/products.html#coordinates > > Aha, the definitive source that I was asking ab

Re: [Talk-ca] silly borders

2009-03-31 Thread James Ewen
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 7:41 AM, Brent Fraser wrote: > And for those who like to parse latitude and longitude: > > http://www.internationalboundarycommission.org/products.html#coordinates Aha, the definitive source that I was asking about... Actual lat/long values of the monuments. One would be

Re: [Talk-ca] silly borders

2009-03-31 Thread Brent Fraser
And for those who like to parse latitude and longitude: http://www.internationalboundarycommission.org/products.html#coordinates Best Regards, Brent Fraser GeoAnalytic Inc. Calgary, Alberta Mepham, Michael wrote: > Stupid spell checker GeoBase, not Georgia. > > The values in GeoBase for

Re: [Talk-ca] silly borders

2009-03-31 Thread Mepham, Michael
Stupid spell checker GeoBase, not Georgia. The values in GeoBase for the US borders are from the International Boundary Commission and are consensus values for the internal boundaries. Mike Mepham Federal/Provincial/Territorial Liaison GeoConnections Program Natural Resources Canada E

Re: [Talk-ca] [Talk-us] silly borders

2009-03-31 Thread James Ewen
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 8:13 PM, Matthew Schneider wrote: > Fifty-Four Forty or Fight! > > Actually, it is the 49th parallel, West of Lake of the Woods. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oregon_Treaty Yup, 49 it is, but there are minor deviations along that line due to measurement inaccuracies of t

Re: [Talk-ca] silly borders

2009-03-31 Thread Michel Gilbert
2009/3/30 James Ewen > On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Richard Weait wrote: > > > We're good neighbo(u)rs. We should fix our fence. Shouldn't each > > border be a single way, with a relation for each adjacent region? > > > > We should have a fence-mending party. > > So, now comes the interest

Re: [Talk-ca] [Talk-us] silly borders

2009-03-31 Thread James Fee
Someone get the text to the Treaty of 1818 and figure that one out... I don't seem to have my copy ready by my computer. -- James Fee http://www.spatiallyadjusted.com/ On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 7:07 PM, Bill Ricker wrote: > > We should fix our fence. > > Ayuh. Good fences make good naaybahs. [

Re: [Talk-ca] gnis:reviewed=no & map features

2009-03-31 Thread Alan Millar
> if you can put the list of features along with the corrisponding OSM > tag to a wiki page, this would be helpful :) > (then i can help match features & cross-check to what i have) Unfortunately, in the case of my import for USGS Geonames items, they don't have specific feature categories. I'm d

Re: [Talk-ca] [Talk-us] silly borders

2009-03-31 Thread Adam Schreiber
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 9:45 PM, Richard Weait wrote: > Dear Can-Americans, > > This is silly.  Four different lines for one border. > > http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=48.99906&lon=-95.15362&zoom=16&layers=B000FTF > > We're good neighbo(u)rs.  We should fix our fence.  Shouldn't each > border b

Re: [Talk-ca] [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap in "The Times - atlas of the world" book

2009-03-31 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 1:32 AM, Sam Vekemans wrote: > Hi all, > i just wanted to let you all know that on page 57 of this big atlas > book, openstreetmap is listed! > (a big heavy book) > So kids studing geography will see it! > > Its ISBN 978 0 00 7236701 - "The greatest book on earth" www.times

Re: [Talk-ca] [Talk-us] silly borders

2009-03-31 Thread Matthew Schneider
Adam Schreiber wrote: > On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 9:45 PM, Richard Weait wrote: > >> Dear Can-Americans, >> >> This is silly. Four different lines for one border. >> >> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=48.99906&lon=-95.15362&zoom=16&layers=B000FTF >> >> We're good neighbo(u)rs. We should fix o

Re: [Talk-ca] [Talk-us] silly borders

2009-03-31 Thread Bill Ricker
>  We should fix our fence. Ayuh. Good fences make good naaybahs. [1] > Shouldn't each > border be a single way, with a relation for each adjacent region? around whom does it go clockwise? Shouldn't the entirety of a country's (state/province/county) be a (multi)polygon for area? Can that be em

Re: [Talk-ca] [Talk-us] Province / State borders

2009-03-31 Thread Ian Dees
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 8:38 AM, Adam Schreiber wrote: > > They weren't duplicated. Ian (I believe?) imported the borders for > the New England and Mid-Atlantic states and I imported the rest. > It might be the county border imports. I imported those without doing any polygon-overlap-detection

Re: [Talk-ca] [Talk-us] silly borders

2009-03-31 Thread Bill Ricker
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 10:13 PM, Matthew Schneider wrote: >> Great.  Which one's correct? looks to me like they were traced with subtly different projections that supposedly were squared up but didn't quite fit. E.g., Interesting factoid i just picked up - Warsaw Pact and NATO used the same pri

Re: [Talk-ca] [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap in "The Times - atlas of the world" book

2009-03-31 Thread Nick Black
When you say listed, does it show an OSM map? Or just name the project? On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 1:32 AM, Sam Vekemans wrote: > Hi all, > i just wanted to let you all know that on page 57 of this big atlas > book, openstreetmap is listed! > (a big heavy book) > So kids studing geography will see

Re: [Talk-ca] [Talk-us] Province / State borders

2009-03-31 Thread Adam Schreiber
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 6:59 AM, Richard Weait wrote: > I've adjusted the boundary=admin rendering on my tile server to make > more sense for North America.  Rendering the state / provincial borders > at zoom 1 & 2 might be overdoing it, but at zoom 3 looks reasonable.  It > does point out a poten

Re: [Talk-ca] [Talk-us] Province / State borders

2009-03-31 Thread Bill Ricker
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 6:59 AM, Richard Weait wrote: > Borders for Vermont and New York appear "bolder" than for Minnesota and > Illinois.  Have they been tagged differently, or duplicated? an additional possibility is eastern borders are more wiggly following terrain as opposed to ruler on a ma