Re: [Talk-ca] Cleaning up after the GeoBase import

2009-06-12 Thread Corey Burger
1) start fresh (streets/road-wise), enjoy correct topology and overall > consistency for the whole Canada from the start, and correct/add to > out-of-date data from GeoBase. Under no circumstances should we be deleting already collected data. Correct data is far less important than mappers and

Re: [Talk-ca] Cleaning up after the GeoBase import

2009-06-12 Thread Michael Barabanov
Ah, I hate replying to myself. Another issue is relationship of street data to other features from Canvec. I'm pretty sure that e.g. bridges are aligned between road data and river and railroads in GeoBase. I'm also pretty sure it's not the case for a lot of current OSM data. One other idea th

Re: [Talk-ca] Cleaning up after the GeoBase import

2009-06-12 Thread Michael Barabanov
There's an additional complication for adding UUIDs: different topologies, for e.g. dual carriageways. I'm seeing a lot of cases where OSM has a single way for a stret, but Geobase has two. So, assigning UUIDs can not be a mechanical process. In fact, I'll argue that matching Geobase UUIDs is simi

[Talk-ca] Cleaning up after the GeoBase import

2009-06-12 Thread Richard Degelder
William Lachance wrote: Look at this from another angle: Should we split up all the existing OSM road data that people have put in to add in GeoBase UUID information? The simple answer is that at some point we are going to have to. If we want to add the attributes available from GeoBase, and to

[Talk-ca] GeoBase data updates

2009-06-12 Thread Steve Singer
http://www.geobase.ca/geobase/en/news/index.html Might be of interest 1. I am not sure if these are already covered by the CanVec data Sam has been working on but Land Cover and Aboriginal lands are now part of GeoBase 2. GeoBase has recently released updated roads for BC, Nunavut, PEI and

Re: [Talk-ca] cleaning up after the GeoBase import

2009-06-12 Thread Steve Singer
On Fri, 12 Jun 2009, William Lachance wrote: > Maybe I'm missing something, but I frankly just don't see the purpose in > tagging our data differently from the rest of the world, when we can > achieve the desired end (comparing OSM data to geobase) in an analytical > way simply by comparing the ge

Re: [Talk-ca] cleaning up after the GeoBase import

2009-06-12 Thread Michael Barabanov
Let me be a devil's advocate here for a while. The 2 alternatives that make more sense are - Delete the existing street data and start fresh with GeoBase, and always maintain the UUIDs properly. Given how many inconsistencies/topology errors there are in OSM data for Greater Vancouver, it

Re: [Talk-ca] Geobase data vs. OSM data on import

2009-06-12 Thread Austin Henry
- Austin Henry arranged a host of electrons thusly: - > It means I've got more work to do, but there should be less effort > after-the-fact, so I don't mind re-running the exports & roadmatcher > bits. I might have the data in by the end of the week, given work & > life & all that jazz. Well, bom

Re: [Talk-ca] cleaning up after the GeoBase import

2009-06-12 Thread James Ewen
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 1:58 PM, William Lachance wrote: > Right, you have to split up a way if the tags change as you describe. > However, there's also the (at the very least implied) convention that a > way should not be split if the tags don't change. Yup, that's what I was doing when working

Re: [Talk-ca] cleaning up after the GeoBase import

2009-06-12 Thread William Lachance
On Thu, 2009-06-11 at 19:24 -0600, James Ewen wrote: > > > This basically amounts to > > asking everyone who writes tools/products that read/write OSM data > > (which go far beyond the OSMARender and Potlatch editor, see for > example > > the developer tools at http://cloudmade.com) to accomodate