Re: [Talk-ca] Internal CanVec conflicts

2012-11-16 Thread Paul Norman
> From: Dan Charrois [mailto:d...@syz.com] > Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Internal CanVec conflicts > > Usually, in remote areas of the north that I've dealt with, there is > often little else already there than the Landsat lakes. And usually, in > a given tile, there is us

Re: [Talk-ca] Internal CanVec conflicts

2012-11-16 Thread Dan Charrois
Usually, in remote areas of the north that I've dealt with, there is often little else already there than the Landsat lakes. And usually, in a given tile, there is usually just a handful of lakes. In pretty much every case I've dealt with so far, I've replaced the Landsat lakes with Canvec dat

Re: [Talk-ca] Internal CanVec conflicts

2012-11-16 Thread Pierre Béland
=shpak_landsat_lakes and erase the selected objects. Too risky?   Pierre > > De : Pierre Béland >À : "talk-ca@openstreetmap.org" >Envoyé le : Jeudi 15 novembre 2012 12h48 >Objet : Re: [Talk-ca] Internal CanVec conflicts > > >Nort

Re: [Talk-ca] Internal CanVec conflicts

2012-11-15 Thread Pierre Béland
" >Envoyé le : Jeudi 15 novembre 2012 11h06 >Objet : Re: [Talk-ca] Internal CanVec conflicts > >A really simple answer that gets lost is this: > >Did you make the edits to the best of your ability, and your edits add value >to the OSM project? > >If so, then

Re: [Talk-ca] Internal CanVec conflicts

2012-11-15 Thread James Ewen
A really simple answer that gets lost is this: Did you make the edits to the best of your ability, and your edits add value to the OSM project? If so, then it was the right thing to do. We all bring different levels of ability, and may not do things perfectly according to the "experts", but i

Re: [Talk-ca] Internal CanVec conflicts

2012-11-15 Thread Paul Norman
> From: Tom Taylor [mailto:tom.taylor.s...@gmail.com] > Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Internal CanVec conflicts > > I've just performed my first edits, in our neighbourhood. One thing I > noticed was that some of the buildings are duplicates. I assume this is > part of what you

Re: [Talk-ca] Internal CanVec conflicts

2012-11-15 Thread Harald Kliems
Hi Tom: welcome to OSM and congratulations on your first edits! Yes, it sounds like you did the right thing. One thing to look out for: Bing images are not always aligned 100% -- they can be offset by several meters. Usually this is not a problem but if there are any GPS traces available in your ar

Re: [Talk-ca] Internal CanVec conflicts

2012-11-15 Thread Tom Taylor
I've just performed my first edits, in our neighbourhood. One thing I noticed was that some of the buildings are duplicates. I assume this is part of what you are talking about when you mention internal CanVec conflicts. In the case of a local public school, I deleted one of the copies and drag

Re: [Talk-ca] Internal CanVec conflicts

2012-11-14 Thread Frank Steggink
On 14-11-2012 19:37, Pierre Béland wrote: Pierre Lamoureux***:* Mardi 13 novembre 2012 23h54 **< Je suis un nouveau participant au projet OSM, par contre je ne suis pas un débutant en cartographie et je saisis assez bien les termes de la discussion en cours En passant, j’ai un peu d’expé

Re: [Talk-ca] Internal CanVec conflicts

2012-11-14 Thread Pierre Béland
Pierre Lamoureux: Mardi 13 novembre 2012 23h54 < Je suis un nouveau participant au projet OSM, par contre je ne suis pas un débutant en cartographie et je saisis assez bien les termes de la discussion en cours En passant, j’ai un peu d’expérience dans l’utilisation de FME pour convertir l

Re: [Talk-ca] Internal CanVec conflicts

2012-11-13 Thread Pierre Lamoureux
. Pierre Lamoureux Quebec, Qc De : Pierre Béland [mailto:infosbelas-...@yahoo.fr] Envoyé : 13 novembre 2012 16:22 À : Frank Steggink; talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Objet : Re: [Talk-ca] Internal CanVec conflicts Frank Steggink november 13 2012 15h37 answering Paul Norman > However, t

Re: [Talk-ca] Internal CanVec conflicts

2012-11-13 Thread Pierre Béland
> De : Frank Steggink >À : talk-ca@openstreetmap.org >Envoyé le : Mardi 13 novembre 2012 15h37 >Objet : Re: [Talk-ca] Internal CanVec conflicts > >Hi Paul, > >It probably won't come to you as a surprise if I would say it is acceptable, >but to

Re: [Talk-ca] Internal CanVec conflicts

2012-11-13 Thread Frank Steggink
Hi Paul, It probably won't come to you as a surprise if I would say it is acceptable, but to a certain degree. A map with no data is not a map. A map with inconsistent data is still a map, but obviously something is not right. A map with perfectly consistent data doesn't need to tell the trut

Re: [Talk-ca] Internal CanVec conflicts

2012-11-12 Thread Brian Gamberg
On Monday, November 12, 2012 4:36 PM, Paul Norman wrote: > > From: Brian Gamberg [bgamb...@nf.sympatico.ca] > > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 11:01 AM > > To: Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org > > Subject: [Talk-ca] Internal CanVec conflicts > > > > The

[Talk-ca] Internal CanVec conflicts

2012-11-12 Thread Brian Gamberg
I ran into many of the same issues when I started importing Canvec data for the province of Newfoundland and Labrador. But, in my case, the arguments I had were with myself. When I started, most of the province was a blank slate with only the (PGS) coastline in the OSM database. There wer

Re: [Talk-ca] Internal CanVec conflicts

2012-11-11 Thread Harald Kliems
I've already said what I have to say about the issue at hand in earlier discussion. A more lighthearted remark: whenever I feel depressed about some Canvec-related issue I load up JOSM, pick a random location in the US, and spend half an hour fixing TIGER data. It's a very effective therapeutic...

Re: [Talk-ca] Internal CanVec conflicts

2012-11-11 Thread Daniel Begin
ssage- From: Dan Charrois [mailto:d...@syz.com] Sent: November-11-12 02:47 To: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Internal CanVec conflicts > "Is it the communities view that it is okay to import CanVec without > reconciling the internal differences between the layers?"

Re: [Talk-ca] Internal CanVec conflicts

2012-11-10 Thread Dan Charrois
> "Is it the communities view that it is okay to import CanVec without > reconciling the internal differences between the layers?" > > I believe it is. The great thing about OSM data is it is not written in > stone. An import or edit can be changed in the future. The data is > inserted for use

Re: [Talk-ca] Internal CanVec conflicts

2012-11-10 Thread Daniel Begin
: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Internal CanVec conflicts > From: Bryan Crosby [mailto:azubr...@gmail.com] > Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2012 8:33 AM > To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org > Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Internal CanVec conflicts > This will be my fir

Re: [Talk-ca] Internal CanVec conflicts

2012-11-10 Thread Paul Norman
> From: Bryan Crosby [mailto:azubr...@gmail.com] > Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2012 8:33 AM > To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org > Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Internal CanVec conflicts > This will be my first and only response to this. If the Canadian OSM > community feels we need to

Re: [Talk-ca] Internal CanVec conflicts

2012-11-10 Thread Bryan Crosby
at in doing so, 80% of the country will receive no data, and the community will be down one mapper. B -Original Message- From: Paul Norman [mailto:penor...@mac.com] Sent: November-10-12 4:38 AM To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-ca] Internal CanVec conflicts CanVec da

[Talk-ca] Internal CanVec conflicts

2012-11-10 Thread Paul Norman
CanVec data comes from multiple sources and this can lead to internal inconsistencies. A common case is a new development where there used to be trees. The tree data in CanVec might be older and show an area as forested while there is newer road data indicating that the area has been developed. An