[Talk-ca] Canadian imports: good or bad?

2012-04-15 Thread Richard Weait
Dear All, Let's talk about it again. How do we feel about the bulk copying of information from a permitted source into OpenStreetMap in Canada? To be clear, I'm not suggesting that we discuss whether external data sources are good or not. External data sources are good. I'm suggesting that we

Re: [Talk-ca] Canadian imports: good or bad?

2012-04-15 Thread Stewart C. Russell
On 12-04-15 11:09 , Richard Weait wrote: Dear All, Let's talk about it again. How do we feel about the bulk copying of information from a permitted source into OpenStreetMap in Canada? Essential, required, epic and amazing. We're a huge sparsely-populated country. It would be impossible to

Re: [Talk-ca] Canadian imports: good or bad?

2012-04-15 Thread Gordon Dewis
On 2012-04-15, at 11:09 AM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: Let's talk about it again. How do we feel about the bulk copying of information from a permitted source into OpenStreetMap in Canada? To be clear, I'm not suggesting that we discuss whether external data sources are good or

Re: [Talk-ca] Canadian imports: good or bad?

2012-04-15 Thread Andrew Allison
On Sun, 2012-04-15 at 11:09 -0400, Richard Weait wrote: Dear All, Let's talk about it again. How do we feel about the bulk copying of information from a permitted source into OpenStreetMap in Canada? To be clear, I'm not suggesting that we discuss whether external data sources are good

Re: [Talk-ca] Canadian imports: good or bad?

2012-04-15 Thread Daniel Begin
Bonjour, I know that I'm not totally unbiased !-) but as it is an important question, I'll add my two cents as OSM contributor... Bulk import - Canvec for instance - is helpful to fill white areas on OSM map. Not doing twice what is already available and focus on updating, or adding features,

[Talk-ca] Canadian imports: good or bad?

2012-04-15 Thread James Ewen
On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 9:38 AM, Stewart C. Russell scr...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks to all who have provided imports. Keep it up. We have a MAP now! In some areas... there are still vast expanses with little to no information available in OSM. Take this area in Saskatchewan for example:

Re: [Talk-ca] Canadian imports: good or bad?

2012-04-15 Thread john whelan
I think you have to start with the requirements and on a project the size of OpenStreetMap there are many people involved each of which have their own set of requirements. End users would like the information they require to exist, be reliable and accurate. Many people who own a GPS and a bike

Re: [Talk-ca] Canadian imports: good or bad?

2012-04-15 Thread Teresa Baldwin
Hello all, As a former resident of Saskatchewan, I vote for imports - done by a select few people who know how to do it well. I've been slowly bringing Moose Jaw on the map with help from Bing imagery, but I will never be able to accurately map all of the roads in Saskatchewan. There are over

Re: [Talk-ca] Canadian imports: good or bad?g

2012-04-15 Thread Sam Dyck
I just sent a message to Winnipeg Transit asking for a shapefile with every (well, almost all) addresses in Winnipeg. Given their open data policies, I think I have a good chance. The data will be better than StatsCan addresses and will allow us to make the existing map more accurate. I see OSM

Re: [Talk-ca] Canadian imports: good or bad?

2012-04-15 Thread Pierre Béland
Let start from the beginning. What is the objective of OSM? A collaborative map of the world. Not a patchwork. We need a map with sufficient quality to support various projects. And there are a lot of dynamic projects around like http://hiking.lonvia.de/en/ and http://hikebikemap.de/. See

Re: [Talk-ca] Canadian imports: good or bad?

2012-04-15 Thread Paul Norman
From: Richard Weait [mailto:rich...@weait.com] Subject: [Talk-ca] Canadian imports: good or bad? Dear All, Let's talk about it again. How do we feel about the bulk copying of information from a permitted source into OpenStreetMap in Canada? To be clear, I'm not suggesting that we

Re: [Talk-ca] Canadian imports: good or bad?

2012-04-15 Thread kliems
On Apr 15, 2012, at 4:45 PM, Pierre Béland infosbelas-...@yahoo.fr wrote: Let start from the beginning. What is the objective of OSM? A collaborative map of the world. Not a patchwork. We need a map with sufficient quality to support various projects. To pick some nits: OSM is not a map,

Re: [Talk-ca] Canadian imports: good or bad?

2012-04-15 Thread Steve Singer
On Sun, 15 Apr 2012, Andrew Allison wrote: From what I see there are some conflicting arguments here. I think the question posed in the subject 'good or bad' is the wrong one. Is there a way we can have our cake and eat it too? Can we get most of the benefits from all of your below