Re: [Talk-ca] Open Data for Airdrie AB

2019-04-23 Thread Joshua Kenney
If StatsCan is going to gather more than the just building data under the same licence, that would be sweet! The other data sets from Airdrie it would be nice to import, eventually, are address points, neighbourhood and quadrant boundaries, park benches and picnic tables, and city maintained

Re: [Talk-ca] Open Data for Airdrie AB

2019-04-23 Thread Joshua Kenney
Thanks for that update on the current status of the building import! I've checked the Stats Canada site, and they do indeed have the up-to-date building data from Airdrie (although stripped of the height and elevation tags). I seem to be the only active mapper in Airdrie, is it possible for

Re: [Talk-ca] Open Data for Airdrie AB

2019-04-23 Thread john whelan
I'd check to see if it is included in the Stats Canada data first. If not then the buildings will be available in the Microsoft data which is correctly licensed. The open data licenses are a mine field. Stats is looking a releasing more municipal Open Data under the Federal Government license.

Re: [Talk-ca] Open Data for Airdrie AB

2019-04-23 Thread James
ODBL also has the annoying part where the data has to be fully licensed by the data provider: if city buys data from 3rd party and they still retain rights on it, then it becomes a problem On Tue., Apr. 23, 2019, 12:09 p.m. Jarek Piórkowski, wrote: > IANAL but as I understand it, you would have

Re: [Talk-ca] Open Data for Airdrie AB

2019-04-23 Thread Jarek Piórkowski
IANAL but as I understand it, you would have to have them release the data as public domain, under CC0, or under Open Database License (the latter is the OSM license). I don't think something like "permission for use in OpenStreetMap" would be sufficient, as the OSM licensing is intended to also

Re: [Talk-ca] Open Data for Airdrie AB

2019-04-23 Thread Joshua Kenney
If I can obtain explicit permission from the city, would I still need to wait for the LWG approval? --Joshua On 2019-04-22 16:03, Jarek Piórkowski wrote: > Hi Joshua, > > Welcome to OSM, and thank you for your contributions! > > To answer your first question: the non-building data sets (parks,

Re: [Talk-ca] Open Data for Airdrie AB

2019-04-22 Thread john whelan
I believe Toronto has been waiting a couple of years for approval from the LWG to give you some idea of time frames. Cheerio John On Mon, 22 Apr 2019 at 18:05, Jarek Piórkowski wrote: > Hi Joshua, > > Welcome to OSM, and thank you for your contributions! > > To answer your first question: the

Re: [Talk-ca] Open Data for Airdrie AB

2019-04-22 Thread Jarek Piórkowski
Hi Joshua, Welcome to OSM, and thank you for your contributions! To answer your first question: the non-building data sets (parks, address points, bus stops, etc) are not currently importable without further effort: we would have to get that exact licence (with text including "City of Airdrie")

Re: [Talk-ca] Open Data for Airdrie AB

2019-04-22 Thread OSM Volunteer stevea
John, that was an outstanding overview of and answer to today's quite workable process.  I can only dream that this be written up in whatever now guides this effort in OSM (BC2020 wiki, whatever).  Congratulations on developing what looks like it now does allow and will eventually better allow

Re: [Talk-ca] Open Data for Airdrie AB

2019-04-22 Thread john whelan
For building footprints there are two sources of open data that are correctly licensed. One is Microsoft's building footprints and the other is the Stat Can released data. The Stats Canada data is basically the municipal data released under the federal government's licence. I suggest you first

Re: [Talk-ca] Open Data for Airdrie AB

2019-04-22 Thread James
While I don't see anything in the license that wouldn't be compatible with OSM except maybe the attribution placement: as osm maintains licenses on the wiki and not in the data it's kind of "not the same project" and you'd have to ask city if attribution in the wiki would be sufficient then go

Re: [Talk-ca] Open Data for Airdrie AB

2019-04-22 Thread Kevin Farrugia
Hi Joshua, The national data that gets mentioned here is actually municipal data rolled up into one federated Federal dataset to avoid licensing issues since the federal license has been approved by OSM. As for the national import, that's for others to update you on  --- Kevin (Kevo) On

[Talk-ca] Open Data for Airdrie AB

2019-04-22 Thread Joshua Kenney
Hello everybody! Relatively new mapper here. I've been working on mapping my home town, and a couple of other places I've been, for the past 3 or 4 months. I have found that my city of Airdrie, AB has a number of datasets available under an Open Data Licence: