Re: [Talk-GB] OS Locator / OSM correspondence list generation

2010-05-13 Thread Robert Scott
On Thursday 13 May 2010, Jerry Clough - OSM wrote: > Thanks very much for this Robert. > > I'd made a start trying to do this myself, but had a steep learning curve > with PostGIS. My main suggestions (which will make the file bigger) are: a) > retain the original centroid values (these are nea

Re: [Talk-GB] Definitive Ways - tagging? (was Re: Talk-GB Digest, Vol 44, Issue 19)

2010-05-13 Thread Chris Hill
Mike Harris wrote: > Richard - good thought - I hadn't thought about using a designation > tag without a highway tag to avoid the rendering - it might solve my > problem of unwalkable public rights of way in forests around here. Contact your local council. They have a legal duty to enforce acces

Re: [Talk-GB] OS Locator / OSM correspondence list generation

2010-05-13 Thread Robert Scott
On Thursday 13 May 2010, Tim François wrote: > Looks super interesting. I've been trying to do something similar but for > local areas, rather than GB as a whole to make is useable for single mapper I could do some extracts of areas within bounding boxes. > As for releasing the data to the rest

Re: [Talk-GB] OS Locator / OSM correspondence list generation

2010-05-13 Thread Jerry Clough - OSM
Thanks very much for this Robert. I'd made a start trying to do this myself, but had a steep learning curve with PostGIS. My main suggestions (which will make the file bigger) are: a) retain the original centroid values (these are near as dammit a primary key); and b) keep one or more of the d

Re: [Talk-GB] OS Locator / OSM correspondence list generation

2010-05-13 Thread Tim François
Robert, Looks super interesting. I've been trying to do something similar but for local areas, rather than GB as a whole to make is useable for single mapper. See http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bath/OSLocator_Comparison - the method is towards the bottom of the page. It's certainly not as c

Re: [Talk-GB] Definitive Ways - tagging? (was Re: Talk-GB Digest, Vol 44, Issue 19)

2010-05-13 Thread Mike Harris
+1 On 19:59, Nick Whitelegg wrote: If you've got reasonable non-copyright evidence that there's a PROW across the field, use designation=public_footpath. If there's a path that people seem to use, use the highway=path tag (or some other highway tag if you prefer), and maybe a surface tag. You ca

Re: [Talk-GB] Definitive Ways - tagging? (was Re: Talk-GB Digest, Vol 44, Issue 19)

2010-05-13 Thread Mike Harris
Richard - good thought - I hadn't thought about using a designation tag without a highway tag to avoid the rendering - it might solve my problem of unwalkable public rights of way in forests around here. On 19:59, Richard Mann wrote: If you've got reasonable non-copyright evidence that there's

Re: [Talk-GB] Definitive Ways - tagging? (was Re: Talk-GB Digest, Vol 44, Issue 19)

2010-05-13 Thread Mike Harris
I would record both - but only if I walked both with GPS in hand - and add status where I know it - as per my previous response to Ian. On 19:59, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: Ian Spencer wrote: Sent: 13 May 2010 12:17 PM To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Defin

Re: [Talk-GB] Definitive Ways - tagging? (was Re: Talk-GB Digest, Vol 44, Issue 19)

2010-05-13 Thread Mike Harris
Ian I am on board with the concept and the need to sort out our tagging. However, your category (1) - the OS version - has nothing official about it. The OS themselves include a disclaimer on all of their maps so far as the line of rights of way are concerned. The ONLY official line is the on

Re: [Talk-GB] OS Locator / OSM correspondence list generation

2010-05-13 Thread Robert Scott
On Thursday 13 May 2010, Emilie Laffray wrote: > What about using double metaphone for finding spelling disagreements? > > Emilie Laffray It's something I looked at briefly and depending on how many error reports I get I may look at it again if I find lots of phonetic-type errors that aren't ma

Re: [Talk-GB] OS Locator / OSM correspondence list generation

2010-05-13 Thread Emilie Laffray
On 13 May 2010 17:23, Robert Scott wrote: > Hi all, > > I've been running some countrywide comparisons of the recently released OS > Locator against the streets in OSM, using fuzzy string matching and the > supplied bounding boxes to attempt to match each street in each dataset to > one in the ot

[Talk-GB] OS Locator / OSM correspondence list generation

2010-05-13 Thread Robert Scott
Hi all, I've been running some countrywide comparisons of the recently released OS Locator against the streets in OSM, using fuzzy string matching and the supplied bounding boxes to attempt to match each street in each dataset to one in the other. It's worked pretty well for most areas I tested

Re: [Talk-GB] Definitive Ways - tagging? (was Re: Talk-GB Digest, Vol 44, Issue 19)

2010-05-13 Thread Nick Whitelegg
>>If you've got reasonable non-copyright evidence that there's a PROW >>across the field, use designation=public_footpath. If there's a path >>that people seem to use, use the highway=path tag (or some other >>highway tag if you prefer), and maybe a surface tag. You can have a >>OSM way with just a

[Talk-GB] Fwd: Re: Talk-GB Digest, Vol 44, Issue 19

2010-05-13 Thread Mike Harris
Whoops - resending as I used the wrong account at my end and got bumped by the lists moderator - silly me! Original Message Subject:Re: [Talk-GB] Talk-GB Digest, Vol 44, Issue 19 Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 15:44:31 +0100 From: Mike Harris To: Andy Robinson (blackad

[Talk-GB] Reminder: Andover mapping party this weekend

2010-05-13 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Hello everyone, A reminder on behalf of Andy Street that there is a mapping party this weekend (both days) at Andover, Hampshire. A bit of background (from the wiki page): The county of Hampshire is increasingly well mapped in OpenStreetMap with good coverage of a number of towns and cities a

Re: [Talk-GB] Definitive Ways - tagging? (was Re: Talk-GB Digest, Vol 44, Issue 19)

2010-05-13 Thread Richard Mann
Your non-copyright source is probably a fingerpost (verifiable on the ground). If people want to go round translating the legal documents into where the path ought to be on the ground, then there's no great harm in it, and it's certainly verifiable. Of course, this will get a bit circular when peo

Re: [Talk-GB] Definitive Ways - tagging? (was Re: Talk-GB Digest, Vol 44, Issue 19)

2010-05-13 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Richard Mann [mailto:richard.mann.westoxf...@googlemail.com] wrote: >Sent: 13 May 2010 2:00 PM >To: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) >Cc: Ian Spencer; talk-gb@openstreetmap.org >Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Definitive Ways - tagging? (was Re: Talk-GB Digest, >Vol 44, Issue 19) > >If you've got reasonable

Re: [Talk-GB] Definitive Ways - tagging? (was Re: Talk-GB Digest, Vol 44, Issue 19)

2010-05-13 Thread Richard Mann
If you've got reasonable non-copyright evidence that there's a PROW across the field, use designation=public_footpath. If there's a path that people seem to use, use the highway=path tag (or some other highway tag if you prefer), and maybe a surface tag. You can have a OSM way with just a designati

Re: [Talk-GB] Definitive Ways - tagging? (was Re: Talk-GB Digest, Vol 44, Issue 19)

2010-05-13 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Ian Spencer wrote: >Sent: 13 May 2010 12:17 PM >To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org >Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Definitive Ways - tagging? (was Re: Talk-GB Digest, >Vol 44, Issue 19) > >I think it would be useful to have a think about how we might tag >validated definitive ways in addition to the public foot

Re: [Talk-GB] Definitive Ways - tagging? (was Re: Talk-GB Digest, Vol 44, Issue 19)

2010-05-13 Thread Ian Spencer
I think it would be useful to have a think about how we might tag validated definitive ways in addition to the public footpath recognising that there are potentially 3 different versions of a path: 1) The official published rights of way - say from OS. 2) OSM interpretation of rights of way (sou

Re: [Talk-GB] Talk-GB Digest, Vol 44, Issue 19

2010-05-13 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Mike, A very comprehensive reply, thanks for that. It would be worth having what you have written on a relevant wiki page as its probably the best write-up of the arrangements as we know them. Cheers Andy >-Original Message- >From: talk-gb-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-gb- >bou

Re: [Talk-GB] Talk-GB Digest, Vol 44, Issue 19

2010-05-13 Thread Mike Harris
Hi My understanding of PRoW law is that: 1. The definitive statement (which is prepared by an actual survey on the ground - not from a map - although it might subsequently be plotted onto a map) takes precedence over the definitive map where there are differences between the two. Thus the sta