Re: [Talk-GB] OSM Analysis New Data and bot

2011-06-08 Thread Peter Miller
On 8 June 2011 21:20, Brian Prangle wrote: > The Warwick additions are all  names in  the defunct Stoneleigh Agricultural > Show site. Must get over there and do a survey to see what's happening to > any redevelopment there - unless anyone else wants to volunteer! > I'm firmly of the opinion that

Re: [Talk-GB] OpenKent, OSM coverage estimation

2011-06-08 Thread Peter Miller
On 8 June 2011 09:39, TimSC wrote: > On 08/06/11 08:15, Peter Miller wrote: >> >> My experience is that the LWG never makes definitive statements! >> > > I find that annoying sometimes but, if we are to follow to Spinoza's example > that we should "made a ceaseless effort not to [...] scorn human

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM Analysis updated with new OS Locator data and a review of progress to date

2011-06-08 Thread Peter Miller
On 8 June 2011 14:18, Ed Avis wrote: > Steve Doerr writes: > >>I wonder if the good folks at ITO could devise a way to analyse the >>not:name tags in the database and see whether any of them are now >>redundant? In other words, are the OS correcting any of the mistakes we >>appear to have identif

Re: [Talk-GB] Code point updates

2011-06-08 Thread Andy Robinson
Cool Chris. Are you updating tile rendering for those areas you have previously made available? Cheers Andy -Original Message- From: Chris Hill [mailto:o...@raggedred.net] Sent: 08 June 2011 22:01 To: Talk GB Subject: [Talk-GB] Code point updates I have finished loading the latest OS Co

Re: [Talk-GB] Housing Development Names

2011-06-08 Thread Andy Robinson
Kev, What I’ve done a couple of times is to create a way encompassing the development and adding all the relevant details to that. As extra tags along with landuse=residential usually. I often find that if it’s a one road affair the new name for the road which comes along late in the develop

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM Analysis New Data and bot

2011-06-08 Thread Chris Hill
On 08/06/11 21:20, Brian Prangle wrote: I'm firmly of the opinion that this is not work for a bot unless a tag is added such as verified=no so we humans can search for what hasn't been surveyed. Wholly agree. A bot will just replicate the OS errors and then we'll never find them! Also agree

[Talk-GB] Code point updates

2011-06-08 Thread Chris Hill
I have finished loading the latest OS CodePoint to create the post code overlays for England, Scotland and Wales. More info here: http://codepoint.raggedred.net/ -- Cheers, Chris user: chillly ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http:

[Talk-GB] Housing Development Names

2011-06-08 Thread Kev js1982
Looking at the cyclemap to see if I had made all the changes I thought I had I noticed the very prominent Knightshayes text on the map http://www.opencyclemap.org/?zoom=13&lat=52.92356&lon=-1.12127&layers=B0 This is a new housing development which when I added it to the map was still under constru

[Talk-GB] OSM Analysis New Data and bot

2011-06-08 Thread Brian Prangle
The Warwick additions are all names in the defunct Stoneleigh Agricultural Show site. Must get over there and do a survey to see what's happening to any redevelopment there - unless anyone else wants to volunteer! I'm firmly of the opinion that this is not work for a bot unless a tag is added su

[Talk-GB] OSM Analysis updated with new OS Locator data and a review of progress to date

2011-06-08 Thread Brian Prangle
On 8 June 2011 07:58, Peter Miller wrote: > Following on swiftly from Musical Chairs OSM Analaysis is now also > running with the new OS Locator data. > > Warwickshire is the biggest gainer/looser with 33 new names; over half > of the districts have got at least one new road and there are now onl

Re: [Talk-GB] OpenKent, OSM coverage estimation

2011-06-08 Thread Richard Fairhurst
TimSC wrote: > Straw man. > [...] > Sigh. > [...] > It is ridiculous > [...] > I guess I should not surprised you can't see the benefits > [...] > This seems to be a common thread of your arguments - you make wild claims Fair enough. It's fairly evident you don't see stuff on the same wavelength a

Re: [Talk-GB] OpenKent, OSM coverage estimation

2011-06-08 Thread TimSC
On 08/06/11 15:58, Richard Fairhurst wrote: TimSC wrote: While this this strictly true it is sometimes hard to associate external records with specific OSM objects. Some importing of reference and ID numbers makes this easier. It's only hard because no-one's yet built a tool to do it

Re: [Talk-GB] OpenKent, OSM coverage estimation

2011-06-08 Thread Jerry Clough : SK53 on OSM
On 08/06/2011 15:58, Richard Fairhurst wrote: TimSC wrote: On 07/06/11 14:37, Richard Fairhurst wrote: You don't need to put stuff into OSM to make it mashable-uppable. Most competent licences will have a Collective Work/Database provision to enable this. While this this strictly true it is so

Re: [Talk-GB] OpenKent, OSM coverage estimation

2011-06-08 Thread Richard Fairhurst
TimSC wrote: > On 07/06/11 14:37, Richard Fairhurst wrote: >> You don't need to put stuff into OSM to make it mashable-uppable. Most >> competent licences will have a Collective Work/Database provision to >> enable this. > While this this strictly true it is sometimes hard to associate > external

Re: [Talk-GB] Are you coming to London on Sunday?

2011-06-08 Thread SteveC
:-( sorry Steve stevecoast.com On Jun 8, 2011, at 2:14, Chris Fleming wrote: > On 07/06/11 19:18, Steve Coast wrote: >> or saturday night >> >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/Board_Meeting_June_2011 >> >> Would be awesome to see you there >> >> Steve >> > With a little b

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM Analysis updated with new OS Locator data and a review of progress to date

2011-06-08 Thread Ed Avis
Steve Doerr writes: >I wonder if the good folks at ITO could devise a way to analyse the >not:name tags in the database and see whether any of them are now >redundant? In other words, are the OS correcting any of the mistakes we >appear to have identified? It would be cool to see a comparison

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM Analysis updated with new OS Locator data and a review of progress to date

2011-06-08 Thread Robert Scott
On Wednesday 08 June 2011, Steve Doerr wrote: > I wonder if the good folks at ITO could devise a way to analyse the > not:name tags in the database and see whether any of them are now > redundant? In other words, are the OS correcting any of the mistakes we > appear to have identified? I don't

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM Analysis updated with new OS Locator data and a review of progress to date

2011-06-08 Thread Steve Doerr
On 08/06/2011 07:58, Peter Miller wrote: Following on swiftly from Musical Chairs OSM Analaysis is now also running with the new OS Locator data. Warwickshire is the biggest gainer/looser with 33 new names; over half of the districts have got at least one new road and there are now only 8 places

Re: [Talk-GB] OpenKent, OSM coverage estimation

2011-06-08 Thread SomeoneElse
On 08/06/2011 08:15, Peter Miller wrote: ... On a separate note. Would you be able to do a comparison between place names in NatGaz and in OSM. I think we will be surprised how many places we are still missing from OSM. My guess is that OSM only contains about 65% of the 50K places in that databa

Re: [Talk-GB] Are you coming to London on Sunday?

2011-06-08 Thread Chris Fleming
On 07/06/11 19:18, Steve Coast wrote: or saturday night http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/Board_Meeting_June_2011 Would be awesome to see you there Steve With a little bit more notice I would have been able to make it down :( :( Cheers Chris ___

Re: [Talk-GB] OpenKent, OSM coverage estimation

2011-06-08 Thread TimSC
On 08/06/11 08:15, Peter Miller wrote: My experience is that the LWG never makes definitive statements! I find that annoying sometimes but, if we are to follow to Spinoza's example that we should "made a ceaseless effort not to [...] scorn human actions, but to understand them", LWG have t

Re: [Talk-GB] OpenKent, OSM coverage estimation

2011-06-08 Thread Peter Miller
On 3 June 2011 11:45, TimSC wrote: > > Hi all, > > Some stats on OSM coverage of Kent. I tried to pair the records of KCC > OpenKent with the OSM database. Assuming the KCC list is complete (which it > is usually, but not entirely), we can estimate OSM's coverage in the area. > > Schools: 618 of 9

[Talk-GB] OSM Analysis updated with new OS Locator data and a review of progress to date

2011-06-08 Thread Peter Miller
Following on swiftly from Musical Chairs OSM Analaysis is now also running with the new OS Locator data. Warwickshire is the biggest gainer/looser with 33 new names; over half of the districts have got at least one new road and there are now only 8 places still at 100%. We do have 51 at over 99%