Re: [Talk-GB] UK Rights of Way - WikiProject

2012-05-03 Thread Andy Street
On Thu, 2012-05-03 at 20:08 +0100, Andrew Chadwick wrote: > On 03/05/12 19:11, Andy Street wrote: > > This hypothetical track follows the route of an ancient pathway and is > > used more by the plethora of dog walkers from the nearby village than by > > Farmer Giles. Surely by your logic this shoul

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Rights of Way - WikiProject

2012-05-03 Thread Nick Whitelegg
On 02/05/12 16:41, Nick Whitelegg wrote: >>>One project goal might be to consolidate the various scattered >>>information on the wiki describing how to map RoWs in the first place. >>>Come up with *one* consensus approach. We seem to be settling on >>>designation=* + highway={foot,cycle,bridle}

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Rights of Way - WikiProject

2012-05-03 Thread Andrew Chadwick
[... (g) stray dogs, (h) those that are included in this classification, (i) those that tremble as if they were mad ...] On 03/05/12 19:11, Andy Street wrote: > This hypothetical track follows the route of an ancient pathway and is > used more by the plethora of dog walkers from the nearby village

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Rights of Way - WikiProject

2012-05-03 Thread Andy Street
On Thu, 2012-05-03 at 18:02 +0100, Andrew Chadwick wrote: > > The thing I dislike about footway, bridleway, etc. is that they mix the > > physical characteristics with access information. Using your definition > > above I can think of a number of foottracks, bridletracks and even a > > footunclassi

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Rights of Way - WikiProject

2012-05-03 Thread Andrew Chadwick
("Where's the path?", "Yes it does, doesn't it?") On 03/05/12 14:47, Andy Street wrote: > On Thu, 2012-05-03 at 12:58 +0100, Andrew Chadwick wrote: >> By now, h=footway seems merely a specialisation of h=path. The _only_ >> information it adds is that it's normally used by pedestrians, or that >>

Re: [Talk-GB] Have you contacted a UK local authority in regards to Rights of Way?

2012-05-03 Thread Rob Nickerson
**>>**>>* I contacted Hampshire County Council last week but haven't had a*>>* response yet.* >Is there a standard letter we are using to ask for this information? > >David I was intending to produce a standard letter and will post it here when its done (might take me a week as I've got lots to d

Re: [Talk-GB] Addresses for blocks of flats

2012-05-03 Thread Robert Scott
On Thursday 03 May 2012, Tom Chance wrote: > On 3 May 2012 14:59, Derick Rethans wrote: > > > I've done addr:flats=1-18 before which I saw was in use: > > > > 14:57 Derick: Tag addr:flats has 1468 values and appears > > 5220 times in the planet. > > 14:58 Derick: Tag addr:flatnumber has 68 valu

Re: [Talk-GB] Addresses for blocks of flats

2012-05-03 Thread Tom Chance
On 3 May 2012 14:59, Derick Rethans wrote: > I've done addr:flats=1-18 before which I saw was in use: > > 14:57 Derick: Tag addr:flats has 1468 values and appears > 5220 times in the planet. > 14:58 Derick: Tag addr:flatnumber has 68 values and appears > 113 times in the planet. > Great, thank

Re: [Talk-GB] Addresses for blocks of flats

2012-05-03 Thread Derick Rethans
On Thu, 3 May 2012, Matt Williams wrote: > On 3 May 2012 14:42, Tom Chance wrote: > > Is there a good way to tag flats within a building so that it is clear the > > flat numbers (e.g. 1-12) correspond with the building and not with the > > street? These are two examples I'm struggling with: > > >

Re: [Talk-GB] Addresses for blocks of flats

2012-05-03 Thread Ed Loach
I’ve used addr:flatnumber occasionally, but doubt anything currently uses it judging by the overall low usage figures: http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/addr%3Aflatnumber So in your example it would be something like addr:flatnumber=1-12 addr:housename=Honor Oak Mansions and add the

Re: [Talk-GB] Addresses for blocks of flats

2012-05-03 Thread Matt Williams
On 3 May 2012 14:42, Tom Chance wrote: > Is there a good way to tag flats within a building so that it is clear the > flat numbers (e.g. 1-12) correspond with the building and not with the > street? These are two examples I'm struggling with: > > A block of flats, 1-12 Honor Oak Mansions, sits on

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Rights of Way - WikiProject

2012-05-03 Thread Andy Street
On Thu, 2012-05-03 at 12:58 +0100, Andrew Chadwick wrote: > We both agree on using designation. This is good. +1 > Would you also agree that h=paths are generally too narrow to use in a > 4-wheeled vehicle? After all, that's what h=tracks or the other road > types are intended for. Generally, ye

[Talk-GB] Addresses for blocks of flats

2012-05-03 Thread Tom Chance
Is there a good way to tag flats within a building so that it is clear the flat numbers (e.g. 1-12) correspond with the building and not with the street? These are two examples I'm struggling with: A block of flats, 1-12 Honor Oak Mansions, sits on Underhill Road. The block doesn't have a number f

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Rights of Way - WikiProject

2012-05-03 Thread Andrew Chadwick
On 02/05/12 16:41, Nick Whitelegg wrote: >>One project goal might be to consolidate the various scattered >>information on the wiki describing how to map RoWs in the first place. >>Come up with *one* consensus approach. We seem to be settling on >>designation=* + highway={foot,cycle,bridle}way, by

Re: [Talk-GB] Designation: should we begin using prefixes

2012-05-03 Thread Andrew Chadwick
On 03/05/12 10:22, Jonathan Harley wrote: > +1 for prefixes to designate a country on features which are already > geographically located in a country being bonkers. Putting the discussion back ion track again, I suspect it's really jurisdictional rather than country-based, even if the objects we'

Re: [Talk-GB] Have you contacted a UK local authority in regards to Rights of Way?

2012-05-03 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: "Andy Street" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 5:51 PM Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Have you contacted a UK local authority in regards to Rights of Way? On Wed, 2012-05-02 at 16:22 +, rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: The second of a few emails from me

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Tagging Guideline - wiki page proposals

2012-05-03 Thread Nick Whitelegg
>P.S. Please don't yawn in your emails, it's rude. Seconded. There's no need for this sort of disrespectful rudeness and sarcasm on this list. Nick ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Tagging Guideline - wiki page proposals

2012-05-03 Thread Richard Mann
Anyone who uses the phrase "tagging for the renderer" deserves a yawn (though I agree that forbearance is a virtue). I also agree that single tagging is preferable, but if we can't agree which, that's just a recipe for edit wars. And destroying data that other people are using is exceedingly rude.

Re: [Talk-GB] Designation: should we begin using prefixes

2012-05-03 Thread Jonathan Harley
On 02/05/12 16:38, Chris Hill wrote: On 02/05/12 16:29, Andrew Chadwick wrote: designation=* has been evolving recently, and has added some open land classifications: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:designation#UK_Protected_Areas With the proliferation of these designation codes, would

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Tagging Guideline - wiki page proposals

2012-05-03 Thread Andy Allan
On 30 April 2012 10:23, Richard Mann wrote: > Which (yawn) is not a bad thing: > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tagging_for_the_renderer > > On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 10:07 AM, Brian Prangle wrote: >> >> IMHO it's either a track on the main highway (cycleway=track) or a >> separate track (hig

Re: [Talk-GB] Have you contacted a UK local authority in regards to Rights of Way?

2012-05-03 Thread Ed Loach
Andy wrote: > I contacted Hampshire County Council last week but haven't had a > response yet. I haven't made a formal approach to Essex CC, but have been trying to build up a good relationship with their PROW team by reporting blocked paths, broken stiles, fallen direction posts and the l