Don't forget we're back to our usual haunt for this Thursday Nov 6th at the
Bull on Price Street Birmingham
Rgds
Brian
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I’ll be there but I’m attending the Cycle Forum in Margaret Street first so I
won’t get to the Bull until after 8pm.
Cheers
Andy
From: Brian Prangle [mailto:bpran...@gmail.com]
Sent: 04 November 2014 18:28
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Subject: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] November meeting
2014-11-03 23:35 GMT+00:00 Matthijs Melissen i...@matthijsmelissen.nl:
On 2 November 2014 16:11, Andy Street a...@street.me.uk wrote:
On Sun, 2 Nov 2014 13:24:46 +
Matthijs Melissen i...@matthijsmelissen.nl wrote:
- 'Brantano Footwear' versus Brantano
Whilst company names do not
Are there still objections against Brantano?
Yes. It says Brantano Footwear as the name on the sign on at least the two
nearest stores to me. I have no objections to brand or operator being Brantano,
but not the name field.
Ed
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On Mon, 2014-11-03 at 23:35 +, Matthijs Melissen wrote:
On 2 November 2014 16:11, Andy Street a...@street.me.uk wrote:
On Sun, 2 Nov 2014 13:24:46 +
Matthijs Melissen i...@matthijsmelissen.nl wrote:
- 'Brantano Footwear' versus Brantano
Whilst company names do not necessarily
In the late 70s, early 80s when ADSA arrived as the new kid on the
block, everyone seemed to know it was short for Associated Dairies,
but
that has probably long since been forgotten.
Regarding ASDA, I was following one of their delivery vans yesterday and
noticed all occurrences of their
Matthijs Melissen wrote:
I therefore think inviting list members to vote in order to make
the position of the community explicit - in addition to taking
comments on the mailing list into account, not as a replacement
of it - is the safest way to proceed.
On reflection, it would be more
2014-11-04 15:20 GMT+00:00 Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net:
Matthijs Melissen wrote:
I therefore think inviting list members to vote in order to make
the position of the community explicit - in addition to taking
comments on the mailing list into account, not as a replacement
of it -
On 4 November 2014 15:20, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote:
On reflection, it would be more helpful, and less controversial, if you were
to describe this process as a poll rather than a vote.
That's a good suggestion, I think the word 'poll' better expresses
what the intention is. I
On 4 November 2014 10:25, Ed Loach edlo...@gmail.com wrote:
Are there still objections against Brantano?
Yes. It says Brantano Footwear as the name on the sign on at least the two
nearest stores to me. I have no objections to brand or operator being
Brantano, but not the name field.
As I
On 4 November 2014 12:55, Philip Barnes p...@trigpoint.me.uk wrote:
ALDI, LIDL, ASDA and SPAR are all abbreviations of their full names, in
the same way as NATO, AIDS, BBC, OSM or GNU are.
Whether Spar is an abbreviation is doubtful. Spar is Dutch for spruce
(a species of tree), hence the logo.
On 04/11/14 17:19, Matthijs Melissen wrote:
On 4 November 2014 10:25, Ed Loach edlo...@gmail.com wrote:
Are there still objections against Brantano?
Yes. It says Brantano Footwear as the name on the sign on at least the two
nearest stores to me. I have no objections to brand or operator
On Tue, 2014-11-04 at 17:29 +, Matthijs Melissen wrote:
On 4 November 2014 12:55, Philip Barnes p...@trigpoint.me.uk wrote:
ALDI, LIDL, ASDA and SPAR are all abbreviations of their full names, in
the same way as NATO, AIDS, BBC, OSM or GNU are.
Whether Spar is an abbreviation is
On 4 November 2014 18:55, Philip Barnes p...@trigpoint.me.uk wrote:
According to wikipedia SPAR is an acronym of Door Eendrachtig
Samenwerken Profiteren Allen Regelmatig, although the DE has been
dropped.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spar_(retailer)#Etymology
Yes, but according to the
On Tue, 04 Nov 2014 18:49:44 +
Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:
The 'name' is 'Brantano Footwear' unless there IS something different
on the signage, and the 'operator' is 'Brantano (UK) Ltd'.
Trade marks appear to use Brantano rather than Brantano
Footwear:
On 04/11/14 17:19, Matthijs Melissen wrote:
So the question is - what makes you think that 'Footwear' is part of
the name, rather than a description of the products they sell?
The 7,510 Google hits for '+site:brantano.co.uk brantano footwear',
for as start, including their TCs page. The
On 04/11/14 12:55, Philip Barnes wrote:
ALDI, LIDL, ASDA and SPAR are all abbreviations of their full names, in
the same way as NATO, AIDS, BBC, OSM or GNU are.
BBC is an initialism, so should be in uppercase. The rest of treated as
acronyms. To the extent that they are trademarks, they may
On 04/11/14 20:01, Andy Street wrote:
The 'name' is 'Brantano Footwear' unless there IS something different
on the signage, and the 'operator' is 'Brantano (UK) Ltd'.
Trade marks appear to use Brantano rather than Brantano
Footwear:
http://www.ipo.gov.uk/tmtext.htm
I'd avoid using
Hang on a minute... the name tag should contain the most common name,
or, as the wiki puts it, the common default name. There are other tags
for enthousiasts to store official names, legal names, alternate names,
brands, operators etc which, in a certain frame of reference, can also
be correct
On 04/11/14 22:04, Colin Smale wrote:
Hang on a minute... the name tag should contain the most common name,
or, as the wiki puts it, the common default name. There are other
tags for enthousiasts to store official names, legal names, alternate
names, brands, operators etc which, in a certain
What is right is a subjective judgement, that's the whole discussion,
surely? And the ground truth paradigm isn't absolute, otherwise we
would have name=HIGH ST. as has been mentioned before.
If two parties have different answers yet both insist they are right,
you should look again at the
On 4 November 2014 22:17, Chris Hill o...@raggedred.net wrote:
I would write what it says on the sign on the shop. That's why I tag ASDA as
ASDA, that's what it says on the sign. I don't look at their website, their
advertising or their letter heads. I use ground truth. I'm not a trademark
On 04/11/14 22:04, Colin Smale wrote:
Hang on a minute... the name tag should contain the most common name,
or, as the wiki puts it, the common default name.
Totally Agree Colin ...
The name tag should not be subjected to a 'mechanical edit' to change
what has been entered by a local mapper, so
I'm glad you say you agree Lester, but to me, the words common default
name imply some level of consensus, not the subjective opinion of an
individual mapper. I see issues here which we should not conflate; on
the contrary, we should address them in order, as they form a hierarchy.
Firstly,
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