Chris wrote:
> The parish council website sits on the fence and calls it a 'thriving
> community'.
At the top of their home page that's true. Lower down they get off the fence
and write "Please do take a look at our PhotoGallery of our beautiful village"
http://wickhammarket.onesuffolk.net
Ed
On 2018-09-07 18:27, Philip Barnes wrote:
> On 7 September 2018 15:58:58 CEST, Martin Wynne wrote:
> But that's my point. We can just look it up, if we start from the
> assumption that the Local Government Act distinction between a town and a
> village (technically, between a town and a parish
On 7 September 2018 15:58:58 CEST, Martin Wynne wrote:
>
>> But that's my point. We can just look it up, if we start from the
>> assumption that the Local Government Act distinction between a town
>and
>> a village (technically, between a town and a parish, but that's just
>> terminology) is
On 2018-09-07 15:51, Mark Goodge wrote:
> But that's my point. We can just look it up, if we start from the assumption
> that the Local Government Act distinction between a town and a village
> (technically, between a town and a parish, but that's just terminology) is
> definitive. So observati
But that's my point. We can just look it up, if we start from the
assumption that the Local Government Act distinction between a town and
a village (technically, between a town and a parish, but that's just
terminology) is definitive. So observation doesn't need to come into it.
If that's th
On 07/09/2018 12:51, Chris Hill wrote:
One place to look is OS Open Names. That has place names listed with a
category of populated place that seems to be hamlet, village, town or
suburban area. That lists Wickham Market as a town.
That seems to be going solely by size, and is used to indica
On 07/09/2018 13:06, Martin Wynne wrote:
But that only applies to that particular street. What do you do when
somewhere has some streets that are fully lit and some that aren't?
Are you planning to go round every street in a settlement, check the
street lights, total them all up and then us
But that only applies to that particular street. What do you do when
somewhere has some streets that are fully lit and some that aren't? Are
you planning to go round every street in a settlement, check the street
lights, total them all up and then use that to decide whether it's a
town or a v
One place to look is OS Open Names. That has place names listed with a
category of populated place that seems to be hamlet, village, town or
suburban area. That lists Wickham Market as a town.
Wikipedia, on the other hand, says it is a large village.
The parish council website sits on the fenc
On 07/09/2018 12:37, Martin Wynne wrote:
But it's not a useful indicator, because it's least reliable precisely
in the cases where you are most uncertain.
Surely the more uncertain you are, the more useful an indicator becomes?
Only if the indicator is reliable though, And it's least like
On 07/09/2018 12:28, Stuart Reynolds wrote:
I would support a simple, objective definition, based on population size.
Population of what, though? The contiguous urban area? The local
government entity? And by what measurement? Most recent census?
Electoral roll? Current estimate?
Unless
But it's not a useful indicator, because it's least reliable precisely
in the cases where you are most uncertain.
Surely the more uncertain you are, the more useful an indicator becomes?
The presence or absence of a row of street lamps is not a wishy-washy
legal opinion, or an argument in th
W.r.t. the use of street lighting as a differentiating factor between a
Town and a Village: Do the Road Traffic Acts at any point refer to this
distinction? I bet they don't It's all about "built-up area" and
"restricted road" status.___
Talk-GB maili
My two pennyworth, FWIW…
The problem here is that it is very subjective. If you have a lot of small
villages around a much larger place, the temptation may be to call that your
local town - and this may be a reason why Wickham Market is called a town. Here
in Southend-on-sea, we have around 270
On 07/09/18 21:04, Mark Goodge wrote:
On 07/09/2018 11:35, Martin Wynne wrote:
You were suggesting identifying them by observation, using street
lights as a distinguishing factor.
Yes, in the event that you are uncertain. I said it was a useful
indicator.
But it's not a useful indicator,
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On 07/09/2018 11:25, Martin Wynne wrote:
>> If it were true, then almost every village would need 30mph repeater
>> sign
On 07/09/2018 11:35, Martin Wynne wrote:
You were suggesting identifying them by observation, using street
lights as a distinguishing factor.
Yes, in the event that you are uncertain. I said it was a useful indicator.
But it's not a useful indicator, because it's least reliable precisely
i
You were suggesting identifying them by observation, using street lights
as a distinguishing factor.
Yes, in the event that you are uncertain. I said it was a useful indicator.
If you already know, you don't need an indicator. No-one is going to be
in any doubt about whether Evesham is a town
On 07/09/2018 11:25, Martin Wynne wrote:
If it were true, then almost every village would need 30mph repeater
signs throughout, as they wouldn't have enough lighting to count as a
built up area. In practice, though, they don't.
Yes they do. At least all the villages I know have 30mph repeate
If it were true, then almost every village would need 30mph repeater signs throughout, as they
wouldn't have enough lighting to count as a built up area. In practice, though, they don't.
Yes they do. At least all the villages I know have 30mph repeaters.
Here's a couple at random:
https://go
On 07/09/2018 11:10, Martin Wynne wrote:
Here's a couple of locations near me. One is in a village, the other
is in a town. Can you tell, just by looking at them, which is which?
If you already know one is a village and the other is a town, why do you
need any other means of identifying th
On 07/09/2018 10:59, David Woolley wrote:
On 07/09/18 10:47, Martin Wynne wrote:
The great advantage of this definition for mapping is that it is an
undisputed fact, on the ground.
You put lots of caveats into this, which leads lots of grounds for
disputes.
One thing to remember is that
Here's a couple of locations near me. One is in a village, the other is
in a town. Can you tell, just by looking at them, which is which?
If you already know one is a village and the other is a town, why do you
need any other means of identifying them?
However, this road in Badsey has no st
On 07/09/18 10:47, Martin Wynne wrote:
The great advantage of this definition for mapping is that it is an
undisputed fact, on the ground.
You put lots of caveats into this, which leads lots of grounds for disputes.
One thing to remember is that OSM is international and the
town/village/cit
I think the presence of streetlights is a regional thing, certainly in
Leicestershire only the smaller rural villages will lack street lights.
Phil (trigpoint)
On 7 September 2018 11:47:16 CEST, Martin Wynne wrote:
>
>> There are, indeed, multiple definitions of the difference between a
>town
On 07/09/2018 10:47, Martin Wynne wrote:
There are, indeed, multiple definitions of the difference between a town
and a village
A useful indicator is the street lighting.
Generally a town has continuous evenly spaced street lamps along all or
most roads within its boundary.
Villages oft
There are, indeed, multiple definitions of the difference between a town
and a village
A useful indicator is the street lighting.
Generally a town has continuous evenly spaced street lamps along all or
most roads within its boundary.
Villages often have no street lighting, or only a few st
On 07/09/2018 09:06, Colin Smale wrote:
On 2018-09-07 09:37, Mark Goodge wrote:
Obviously it's been "town" more than village (and the person who
added it as such was/is pretty local) - but is that still correct?
I'll comment on the latest change about this thread so that
everyone's aware of
On 2018-09-07 09:37, Mark Goodge wrote:
> Obviously it's been "town" more than village (and the person who added it as
> such was/is pretty local) - but is that still correct? I'll comment on the
> latest change about this thread so that everyone's aware of it.
> It has a parish council that ha
On 07/09/18 08:37, Mark Goodge wrote:
It has a parish council that has not chosen to style itself as a town
council. So, officially, it's a village.
http://wickhammarket.onesuffolk.net/
It's also a bit small for a town. According to Wikipedia (which also
considers it a village) it has a popu
On 06/09/2018 22:00, ajt1...@gmail.com wrote:
Is anyone familiar with this area? Someone's mentioned on IRC that
Wickham Market has been changed from town to village and back a couple
of times:
http://osm.mapki.com/history/node.php?id=114148812
Obviously it's been "town" more than village
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