On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 3:31 AM, Lester Caine wrote:
> On 23/05/15 16:36, David Earl wrote:
> > As I said, I think the upward compatible change for this is to use a tag
> > with the unique ID of whatever operator
>
> While not popular, the addition of identifiers IS now gaining traction,
> e
On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 3:08 AM, wrote:
> There is really no need to import this type of data in the UK where the
> mapping culture is to walk/cycle and just go and have a looksee. Well that
> applies to UK culture in general, choosing to walk is not viewed with
> suspicion.
>
> Imho notes offer
On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Paul Sladen wrote:
> My hope was that the owners of the mechanic retaggering bots involved
> would carefully reflect upon this advice and instead try to
> betterunderstand the subject matter in greater detail beforehand.
>
Nothing in the UK was mechanically reta
On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 9:35 AM, SomeoneElse wrote:
> On 12/05/2015 17:28, Bryce Nesbitt wrote:
>>
>> Why not
>> ref:highway_authority
>>
>> To keep the tags just a little bit organized?
>
> https://xkcd.com/927/
> (sorry)
Yeah, but unlike the re
On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 4:14 AM, Andy Robinson wrote:
>
> Yeah, I think I preferred the highway_authority_ref only to differentiate it
> from a reference applied by any other body. You could have more than one
> official_ref depending on the referencing body.
Why not
ref:highway_authority
To
You can see the issue of how to tag this has come up several times:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Sanitary_Dump_Station#See_Also
With no consensus tagging diverged many ways.
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On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Lester Caine wrote:
>
> tag -> disposal_point
>
> Values
> pump_out:grey (No sewage)
> pump_out:black(Contains Sewage)
> pump_out:bilge(May contain oil)
> pump_out:restricted (note advise restrictions)
> dump:black(may have res
On Sat, Apr 25, 2015 at 12:28 PM, Lester Caine wrote:
>
> Bryce ... you still have to make the case for 'special cases'. There is
> no reason to have two tags for many of these amenities.
That's not the purpose I started this thread for.
"waterway=water_point" is in use.
--
The issue of how to
Here's what happened:
1. An in-use feature was documented on the wiki, but with a completely
wrong description.
2. People used the bad definition worldwide.
3. The feature was marked deprecated on the wiki
(without consulting the mappers using it correctly).
4. A blind mechanical
On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 1:58 PM, SK53 wrote:
> cuisine=breakfast seems far too GB/US/CA centric.
>
> There are places in Berlin which do all day breakfasts but certainly not
> of that sort; in most of SE Asia breakfast is likely to be some form of
> congee, and there plenty of such breakfast plac
Greasy spoon truck stops (or any mobile "food truck" on a schedule) could
be:
transient:amenity=restaurant
cuisine=greasy_spoon;british
operating_hours=Sa 16:00-20:00
name=Greasy Spooning Cafe
website=http://foodtrucksrus.net/o=92
So it won't render confusingly with permanently located featu
On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Lester Caine wrote:
> It is interesting that
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Pumpout was
> rejected because it was 'only for boats' or very strangely 'recycling'.
> I suppose we could hook the black waste direct into the bio-digester ;)
Th
To summarize:
Nobody likes to talk about waste, so euphemisms abound.
Past tagging has been all over the map, and the same tags were used in
Europe for dog_waste bins as well as motorhome dump points.
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On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 3:15 AM, Lester Caine wrote:
>
> https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=dump
> Has a lot lower usage than disposal, but *I* don't like the use of
> 'sanitary' ... that is more of a problem than the dump/disposal question!
The tagging numbers are skewed because I tediou
Here are some totally typical prior taggings of this feature (in land
vehicle form):
http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3075600244
http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/369645049
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On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 12:00 PM, Colin Smale wrote:
> Is there any intrinsic difference between one for boats and one for
> motorhomes? If they are actually pretty much the same thing, maybe the
> difference would better be expressed by "*access=customers*" or purely
> *geometric*/geographic pr
On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 3:39 AM, Richard Fairhurst
wrote:
> Bryce Nesbitt wrote:
> > What can we assume the UK tag "waterway=elsan_point" means? One or more
> > of:
> >
> > 1) Walk up toilet
> > 2) Cassette dump for boats
> > 3) Cassette dum
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 11:51 PM, Malcolm Herring <
malcolm.herr...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> On 21/04/2015 18:08, Bryce Nesbitt wrote:
>
>> Are what's presently tagged "elsan_point" /both/ walk up toilets
>> /and/ CDP chemical holding tank emptying points?
&
> Malcome Herring wrote:
Waterside facilities provided by C&RT (previously known as British
> Waterways Board - BWB) are accessed by use of a key issued to all waterway
> license holders. Chemical toilet emptying points are usually within these
> facilities. Pump-out stations, on the other hand, a
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 12:36 AM, Malcolm Herring <
malcolm.herr...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> On 21/04/2015 08:01, Bryce Nesbitt wrote:
>
>> I'm seeking additional local input on this tagging.
>>
>
> Elsan is simply a trade name for a chemical toilet (likew
User richardwest and a few others added a few Elsan Points along Canals in
the UK:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2591597652/
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2755755468/
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2891630633/
I've checked with Richard about this, to make sure the current tagging ca
I'm trying to complete an import project, and am down to 5 nodes in the
UK. Would anyone in these locations be willing to track down and map
bicycle repair tool stands? Suggested tagging is as follows:
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 1:20 AM, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 3:13 AM, Bryce Nesbitt
> wrote:
>>
>> A caravan site might have 200 private hookups. We don't want the hookups
>> to be rendered at the same level as the central dump station.
>> B
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 12:50 AM, Paul Johnson wrote:
> I don't see a problem with access=private as this could be handy for
> micromapping a property. access=public should probably be access=yes.
>
The tagging proposal to date imagined only the "shared dump stations" of
the type that would (i
To be clear, I encourage people to get involved in all open proposals, not
just the one:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Category:Proposed_features_%22Voting%22
The voting process helps to refine tagging proposals: they often get better
during the process.
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Please consider participating in the wiki voting for:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Sanitary_Dump_Station
These sites have various names including dump station, dump point, caravan
dump station, sanitary station, Elsan disposal point (UK), pumpout, and
chemical dump point (CD
This import is now complete.
For the UK the nodes were omitted:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/329258
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On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 2:26 PM, SomeoneElse wrote:
> On 05/03/2015 20:39, Bryce Nesbitt wrote:
>
> I'm happy to import *JUST the six notes* if that's preferred, without
> any node
>
>
> Could you have a go at locating these notes a bit better than the previous
I'm happy to import *JUST the six notes* if that's preferred, without any
node (the node and note are linked in other countries). That's an extra
step for the local mapper however.
I have actually mapped one of these but have refrained from adding
> information about the manufacturer for fear th
On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 9:34 PM, an OSM mapper wrote:
> > The locations need local mapping to get the location perfect.
>
> Are you intending to feed these local changes back to the data source?
> Will the import involve deleting any repair stations in OSM not in the
> data source - this doesn't se
Ok, last call for comments.
Please note this is an ongoing import, so new nodes will show up from time
to time under the same conditions.
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Status update: The USA and Australian imports of this same feature are now
complete.
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Per the mechanical edit policy, this is a request for comments on a
proposed import of bicycle repair tool stands:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Dero_Bike_Repair
These locations are open 24/7.
The locations came from press releases and/or a QR code scan.
The locations need local mapping
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