Re: [Talk-GB] Map layer with OS Locator comparison from ITO - apostrophes

Hi,  I have found Musical chairs to be good to solve that problem http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OS_Locator_Musical_Chairs/FAQ Cheers Bob --- On Thu, 4/11/10, Ed Avis wrote: From: Ed Avis Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Map layer with OS Locator comparison from ITO - apostrophes To: talk-gb

Re: [Talk-GB] Map layer with OS Locator comparison from ITO - apostrophes

I am sorry to reopen this topic but I think it would be a good idea to reconsider the checking of punctuation in the OS Locator tiles. Look at central Exeter for example: Three-quarters of the differences reported he

Re: [Talk-GB] Map layer with OS Locator comparison from ITO -apostrophes

David Groom pointed out that he did suggest putting apostrophe mismatches in a different colour. Perhaps a Levenshtein distance between OS and OSM street names could be computed: find all the OSM names in the bounding box, pick the one with the closest Levenshtein distance, and then colour the re

Re: [Talk-GB] Map layer with OS Locator comparison from ITO -apostrophes

- Original Message - From: "Ed Avis" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 11:56 AM Subject: Re: [Talk-GB]Map layer with OS Locator comparison from ITO -apostrophes > > Peter Miller writes: > >>I suggest we continue to flag alternative versions for which there i

Re: [Talk-GB] Map layer with OS Locator comparison from ITO -apostrophes

Peter Miller writes: >I suggest we continue to flag alternative versions for which there is >no proven valid usage using not:name but where an alternative official >name is found (ie in the legal name or a past name or even one in >local usage) then we should put that in alt:name. I think

Re: [Talk-GB] Map layer with OS Locator comparison from ITO -apostrophes

On 14 Jun 2010, at 15:11, David Groom wrote: > > > - Original Message - > From: "Ed Avis" > To: > Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 12:54 PM > Subject: Re: [Talk-GB]Map layer with OS Locator comparison from ITO - > apostrophes > > >> >> At

Re: [Talk-GB] Map layer with OS Locator comparison from ITO - apostrophes

- Original Message - From: "Ed Avis" To: Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 12:54 PM Subject: Re: [Talk-GB]Map layer with OS Locator comparison from ITO - apostrophes > > At the risk of reopening the apostrophes war, my point is that issues such > as > Saint v

Re: [Talk-GB] Map layer with OS Locator comparison from ITO - apostrophes

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Re: [Talk-GB] Map layer with OS Locator comparison from ITO - apostrophes

I went out at the weekend to resurvey all the highlighted roads in this district (Tendring, Essex - about 38 IIRC). Many of these were apostrophe related and I was beginning to think that the district had a policy of not including apostrophes on street signs until I came to one where they had. Whil

Re: [Talk-GB] Map layer with OS Locator comparison from ITO - apostrophes

From: "Ed Avis" Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 12:54 PM > At the risk of reopening the apostrophes war, my point is that issues such > as > Saint vs St, or Queen's Drive versus Queens Drive, are not ones that can > be > resolved by survey. They are merely orthographic conventions. Similarly, > w

Re: [Talk-GB] Map layer with OS Locator comparison from ITO - apostrophes

You are right that OS data can have mistakes, and should not automatically override what's in OSM now. To resolve a difference (whether of apostrophes or anything else) you need to use independent sources such as postal addresses, local knowledge or histories of the area. Rather than adding a not

Re: [Talk-GB] Map layer with OS Locator comparison from ITO - apostrophes

Tim François wrote: > "...issues such as Saint vs St, or Queen's Drive versus Queens Drive, > are not ones that can be resolved by survey. They are merely > orthographic conventions" > > Is this true? I was under the impression that we mapped what we saw - > i.e. the definitive name is the

Re: [Talk-GB] Map layer with OS Locator comparison from ITO - apostrophes

Richard Mann writes: >I've got a road that's Arnolds Way in OSM and on the street signs, >Arnold's Way in OSSV. How should it be tagged? In such situations I usually do some research to find out who is correct. The local council which puts up the street signs certainly has some authority, howeve

Re: [Talk-GB] Map layer with OS Locator comparison from ITO - apostrophes

I've got a road that's Arnolds Way in OSM and on the street signs, Arnold's Way in OSSV. How should it be tagged? name=Arnolds Way alt_name=Arnold's Way ? Richard On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Ed Avis wrote: > At the risk of reopening the apostrophes war, my point is that issues such as >

Re: [Talk-GB] Map layer with OS Locator comparison from ITO - apostrophes

"...issues such as Saint vs St, or Queen's Drive versus Queens Drive, are not ones that can be resolved by survey.  They are merely orthographic conventions" Is this true? I was under the impression that we mapped what we saw - i.e. the definitive name is the one we see on the street signs d

Re: [Talk-GB] Map layer with OS Locator comparison from ITO - apostrophes

At the risk of reopening the apostrophes war, my point is that issues such as Saint vs St, or Queen's Drive versus Queens Drive, are not ones that can be resolved by survey. They are merely orthographic conventions. Similarly, we do not report a mismatch between High Street and HIGH STREET, even

Re: [Talk-GB] Map layer with OS Locator comparison from ITO - apostrophes

Agreed - might as well mop up the anomalies (St/Saint, apostrophes etc) as we go along this first time round. --- On Sun, 13/6/10, Chris Hill wrote: If I'm going out to check some anomalies, it would be very annoying to have to go out to the same area again in six months time to repeat the pr

Re: [Talk-GB] Map layer with OS Locator comparison from ITO - apostrophes

Ed Avis wrote: > Bob Kerr writes: > > >> I can easily understand that apostrophes and the name bypass are annoying, >> however I think there is an opportunity here. >> >> For example, bypass or by-pass. This highlights an inconstancy in the OS >> data, >> which will be useful for them to corr

Re: [Talk-GB] Map layer with OS Locator comparison from ITO - apostrophes

Bob Kerr writes: >I can easily understand that apostrophes and the name bypass are annoying, >however I think there is an opportunity here.  > >For example, bypass or by-pass. This highlights an inconstancy in the OS data, >which will be useful for them to correct and standardise.  Perhaps, but

Re: [Talk-GB] Map layer with OS Locator comparison from ITO - apostrophes

tool for the council to use. Cheers Bob  --- On Sun, 13/6/10, Richard Mann wrote: From: Richard Mann Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Map layer with OS Locator comparison from ITO - apostrophes To: "Ed Avis" Cc: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Date: Sunday, 13 June, 2010, 9:17 Differences o

Re: [Talk-GB] Map layer with OS Locator comparison from ITO - apostrophes

Differences on the naming of sections of trunk road (Southern Bypass vs Southern Bypass Road) are also a little distracting. Richard On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 8:54 AM, Ed Avis wrote: > Could the OS versus OSM name comparison be changed to strip apostrophes from > both names before comparing? > > S

Re: [Talk-GB] Map layer with OS Locator comparison from ITO - apostrophes

Could the OS versus OSM name comparison be changed to strip apostrophes from both names before comparing? See http://oscompare.raggedred.net/?zoom=16&lat=51.54886&lon=-0.20997&layers=B0TF for example - neither OS nor OSM have any real consistency in whether to use apostrophe or not. I've no wish