Re: [Talk-GB] Bristol - a quick (and surprising?) statistic...

2010-08-08 Thread Dave F.
On 08/08/2010 19:18, Brian Prangle wrote: Existence of a street/road in OSSV/OSL doesn't always mean that the road is there. I've come across 2 examples in Birmingham where the road indicated in OSSV/OSL has disappeared under the developers bulldozer. Regards Brian What time scale are we

Re: [Talk-GB] Bristol - a quick (and surprising?) statistic...

2010-08-08 Thread Dave F.
On 08/08/2010 14:01, Craig Wallace wrote: On 03/01/2006 00:37, Dave F. wrote: On 07/08/2010 19:34, Richard Moss wrote: I take data from OS as evidence that there is a name for a road/track etc. I'm happy with that where I know a road exists, and I have added names to the farm tracks arou

Re: [Talk-GB] Bristol - a quick (and surprising?) statistic...

2010-08-08 Thread Craig Wallace
On 03/01/2006 00:37, Dave F. wrote: On 07/08/2010 19:34, Richard Moss wrote: I take data from OS as evidence that there is a name for a road/track etc. I'm happy with that where I know a road exists, and I have added names to the farm tracks around the village. But putting roads on OSM with

Re: [Talk-GB] Bristol - a quick (and surprising?) statistic...

2010-08-08 Thread Ed Avis
Dave F. writes: >Personally I'd take OS as evidence of the existence of a road as >well. Yes. A name is a social construct, not a physical thing that can be measured on the ground, so if it appears in the Ordnance Survey map - which is pretty much the definitive(*) map in this country

Re: [Talk-GB] Bristol - a quick (and surprising?) statistic...

2010-08-08 Thread Dave F.
On 07/08/2010 19:34, Richard Moss wrote: I take data from OS as evidence that there is a name for a road/track etc. I'm happy with that where I know a road exists, and I have added names to the farm tracks around the village. But putting roads on OSM without actually verifying that they exi

[Talk-GB] Bristol - a quick (and surprising?) statistic...

2010-08-07 Thread Richard Moss
On 3 August 2010, Dave Fox wrote: To check, are the OSM names corroborative with the Royal Mail list? It's mixed.  The Royal Mai list I have is something they put on their website when they changed all our postcodes a few years ago.  It doesn't have the qualifiers like 'The Doles (East)' it

Re: [Talk-GB] Bristol - a quick (and surprising?) statistic...

2010-08-04 Thread Tim Francois
If you do find mistakes in the OSL data (and any other OS OpenData products), please do let OS know - email customerservi...@ordnancesurvey.co.uk. In addition, add the entry to the Catalog of Errors: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Catalog_of_Errors. As for your point: "Tim's analysis is very u

Re: [Talk-GB] Bristol - a quick (and surprising?) statistic...

2010-08-03 Thread Barnett, Phillip
-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-gb-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Ed Avis Sent: 03 August 2010 09:01 To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Bristol - a quick (and surprising?) statistic... Dave F. writes: >Yes. Often in rural areas you will find local people refer to particul

Re: [Talk-GB] Bristol - a quick (and surprising?) statistic...

2010-08-03 Thread Ed Avis
Dave F. writes: >>You could then note that there are various farm tracks outside the village >>which have names in OSL, missing on OSM and not in the Royal Mail postcode >>list: Long Lane, Ouse Fen Road or Bank, Long Holme Drove, Long Drove. >>There is no evidence for these names on the ground. >

Re: [Talk-GB] Bristol - a quick (and surprising?) statistic...

2010-08-02 Thread Dave F.
On 02/08/2010 22:15, Richard Moss wrote: On 23 July 2010, Tim François wrote: ... More info here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Tm#Bristol_-_Missing_Roads Perhaps the figure won't be surprising to many, but I thought it was pretty large! Is this representative of other simila

[Talk-GB] Bristol - a quick (and surprising?) statistic...

2010-08-02 Thread Richard Moss
On 23 July 2010, Tim François wrote: ... More info here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Tm#Bristol_-_Missing_Roads Perhaps the figure won't be surprising to many, but I thought it was pretty large! Is this representative of other similar sized cities/towns? (I know OSL isn't 'pe

Re: [Talk-GB] Bristol - a quick (and surprising?) statistic...

2010-07-25 Thread Tim François
. Tim --- On Sat, 24/7/10, SomeoneElse wrote: From: SomeoneElse Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Bristol - a quick (and surprising?) statistic... To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Date: Saturday, 24 July, 2010, 16:26 On 24/07/2010 15:16, Dave F. wrote: > That link sends me back to the homepage & I&#x

Re: [Talk-GB] Bristol - a quick (and surprising?) statistic...

2010-07-24 Thread SomeoneElse
On 24/07/2010 15:16, Dave F. wrote: That link sends me back to the homepage & I'm unable to find the summary page. Do you have another link? I think that that's a bit of a feature of the way that the site works - if you're logged in and aren't signed up to "OSM Analysis" that seems to be what h

Re: [Talk-GB] Bristol - a quick (and surprising?) statistic...

2010-07-24 Thread Dave F.
Hi Ed/Tim On 23/07/2010 18:43, Ed Avis wrote: Tim François writes: So, I recently moved from Bath to Bristol. Looking at the map, I thought Bristol was relatively complete. Last night I ran a few passes over Bristol using oslVosm, and here's a shocker (?): 37% of the roads in OS Locator do

Re: [Talk-GB] Bristol - a quick (and surprising?) statistic...

2010-07-23 Thread Ed Avis
SomeoneElse writes: >I wish that there was a better way of saying "all of the streets named >in OS Locator are also named in OSM" than "complete". It seems to >suggest that all OSM is is a streetmap (OK, so perhaps the name doesn't >help in this regard...) and not a map for cycling, skiing o

Re: [Talk-GB] Bristol - a quick (and surprising?) statistic...

2010-07-23 Thread SomeoneElse
On 23/07/2010 18:43, Ed Avis wrote: Tim François writes: So, I recently moved from Bath to Bristol. Looking at the map, I thought Bristol was relatively complete. Last night I ran a few passes over Bristol using oslVosm, and here's a shocker (?): 37% of the roads in OS Locator do not appea

Re: [Talk-GB] Bristol - a quick (and surprising?) statistic...

2010-07-23 Thread Ed Avis
Tim François writes: >So, I recently moved from Bath to Bristol. Looking at the map, I thought >Bristol was relatively complete. Last night I ran a few passes over Bristol >using oslVosm, and here's a shocker (?): > >37% of the roads in OS Locator do not appear in OSM. >Is this representative o