Re: [Talk-GB] Lancashire prow_ref format (Was: Public Rights of Way - legal vs reality)

2020-05-13 Thread Adam Snape
Hi, I'm so glad the information is being used and progress is being made. However, I do have to agree with Rob about the Council's online map. Re:OS copyright they are really highly protective about what they perceive to be derived data. I think it would be difficult to add rights of way whilst

Re: [Talk-GB] Lancashire prow_ref format (Was: Public Rights of Way - legal vs reality)

2020-05-11 Thread nathan case
er than name (happy for them to be auto edited using the lookup table Tony has shared). Cheers. -Original Message- From: Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) Sent: 11 May 2020 15:49 To: talk-gb Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Lancashire prow_ref format (Was: Public Rights of Way - legal vs reality)

Re: [Talk-GB] Lancashire prow_ref format (Was: Public Rights of Way - legal vs reality)

2020-05-11 Thread Adam Snape
Just wanted to add that in my view the other reason to list by parish name, type and number is that these directly relate to the legal record. Parish Footpath 11 has usually been Parish Footpath 11 since the 1950s and will continue to be so unless a formal legal process is followed to change

Re: [Talk-GB] Lancashire prow_ref format (Was: Public Rights of Way - legal vs reality)

2020-05-11 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
On Mon, 11 May 2020 at 14:12, nathan case wrote: > Thanks Tony and Adam for your responses. It is good to know that LCC have > released the parish IDs in the data as well. Makes a lookup table easy to > produce. > > It still remains that if I were a casual mapper and wanted to add an unmapped

Re: [Talk-GB] Lancashire prow_ref format (Was: Public Rights of Way - legal vs reality)

2020-05-11 Thread nathan case
general format (parish ID/name, PROW type, number) I support. Regards. From: Tony OSM <mailto:tonyo...@gmail.com> Sent: 10 May 2020 12:29 To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org<mailto:talk-gb@openstreetmap.org> Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Lancashire prow_ref format (Was: Public Rights of Way - legal v

Re: [Talk-GB] Lancashire prow_ref format (Was: Public Rights of Way - legal vs reality)

2020-05-11 Thread Adam Snape
er) I support. >> >> >> >> Regards. >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Tony OSM >> *Sent:* 10 May 2020 12:29 >> *To:* talk-gb@openstreetmap.org >> *Subject:* Re: [Talk-GB] Lancashire prow_ref format (Was: Public Rights >> of

Re: [Talk-GB] Lancashire prow_ref format (Was: Public Rights of Way - legal vs reality)

2020-05-11 Thread Adam Snape
; > > The general format (parish ID/name, PROW type, number) I support. > > > > Regards. > > > > > > *From:* Tony OSM > *Sent:* 10 May 2020 12:29 > *To:* talk-gb@openstreetmap.org > *Subject:* Re: [Talk-GB] Lancashire prow_ref format (Was: Public R

Re: [Talk-GB] Lancashire prow_ref format (Was: Public Rights of Way - legal vs reality)

2020-05-11 Thread Tony OSM
sh ID/name, PROW type, number) I support. Regards. *From:*Tony OSM *Sent:* 10 May 2020 12:29 *To:* talk-gb@openstreetmap.org *Subject:* Re: [Talk-GB] Lancashire prow_ref format (Was: Public Rights of Way - legal vs reality) I agree with Adam. In the published path orders fixed to lamposts etc th

Re: [Talk-GB] Lancashire prow_ref format (Was: Public Rights of Way - legal vs reality)

2020-05-11 Thread nathan case
parish ID into parish name, then that would be perfectly acceptable. The general format (parish ID/name, PROW type, number) I support. Regards. From: Tony OSM Sent: 10 May 2020 12:29 To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Lancashire prow_ref format (Was: Public Rights of Way

Re: [Talk-GB] Lancashire prow_ref format (Was: Public Rights of Way - legal vs reality)

2020-05-10 Thread Tony OSM
I agree with Adam. In the published path orders fixed to lamposts etc the written description includes parish, type, number. Sometimes in that order sometimes type, number, parish. There is no consistency. Parish, type, number is likely to be understood by every user of OSM and I have used it

Re: [Talk-GB] Lancashire prow_ref format (Was: Public Rights of Way - legal vs reality)

2020-05-10 Thread Adam Snape
Hi, There was a discussion on this list about this not long ago. I agree with Rob's preference for parish, type, number as it is more idiomatic and reflects how the routes are most commonly actually referred to in communication. As Rob noted, the council doesn't use the numeric references with

[Talk-GB] Lancashire prow_ref format (Was: Public Rights of Way - legal vs reality)

2020-05-10 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
This may have got lost in the discussion about highway=no, but I'd like to get some feedback on what prow_ref format is best to use in Lancashire. See my previous message below: On Mon, 4 May 2020 at 19:23, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote: > The format of the Right of Way numbers seems to