Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging bike ramp/ bike path down steps

2020-12-14 Thread Edward Bainton
> I recall some means of tagging a step-over gate on a bridleway but can't remember or instantly find the tag. barrier=horse_stile On Mon, 14 Dec 2020 at 19:48, Chris Hodges wrote: > Accessibility tagging for bike routes would be great, and mean a lot of > work on the ground. Things like gate/

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging bike ramp/ bike path down steps

2020-12-14 Thread Chris Hodges
Accessibility tagging for bike routes would be great, and mean a lot of work on the ground. Things like gate/bollard widths would be good, and some of the stuff to keep motorbikes out - though some at least can be tagged; I recall some means of tagging a step-over gate on a bridleway but can't

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging bike ramp/ bike path down steps

2020-12-14 Thread Simon Still
I’d agree with your approach and I’ve raised this before, but haven’t had the time to come back to it. From a routing perspective it would be useful to be able to tag ACCESSIBILITY - ie sections of route that are unsuitable for some users - not related to the legality but so that disabled cy

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging bike ramp/ bike path down steps

2020-12-14 Thread Jon Pennycook
Yes - step_count is also very useful Jon On Mon, 14 Dec 2020 at 17:21, Michael Collinson wrote: > FYI, here's the schema I personally use in Sweden, where heavy use is made > of ramped staircases, though not thankfully on major cycle routes. My > objective is to allow routers to intelligently

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging bike ramp/ bike path down steps

2020-12-14 Thread Michael Collinson
FYI, here's the schema I personally use in Sweden, where heavy use is made of ramped staircases, though not thankfully on major cycle routes. My objective is to allow routers to intelligently route for both sport/club/large group riding and happy meandering or commute: bicycle=yes only on very

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging bike ramp/ bike path down steps

2020-12-14 Thread Jon Pennycook
resending as I think I sent it from the wrong email address. However, blue advisory signs about HGVs are tagged as hgv=discouraged, not as hgv=yes despite there being a legal right of way for HGVs (sometimes, similar signs are shown for all vehicles, eg on fords or ORPAs) - see "discouraged" at ht

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging bike ramp/ bike path down steps

2020-12-14 Thread Simon Still
> On 13 Dec 2020, at 19:18, Edward Catmur via Talk-GB > wrote: > On Sun, 13 Dec 2020, 19:14 David Woolley, > wrote: > On 13/12/2020 19:05, Edward Catmur via Talk-GB wrote: > > Also, the steps should have bicycle=dismount, not =yes. This will allow > > people

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging bike ramp/ bike path down steps

2020-12-13 Thread Chris Hodges
There are no relations set for that stretch or the adjacent ones, so I'll try to sort that out for at least that bit of NCR45.  It's definitely signposted (including the need to dismount) Chris On 13/12/2020 19:55, Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-GB wrote: Dec 13, 2020, 20:52 by talk-gb@openstree

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging bike ramp/ bike path down steps

2020-12-13 Thread SK53
NCN 6 has a particularly awkward example (sorry no picture to hand) which is suitably tagged, and definitely signed. The ramp is (was?) not much more than a half-pipe. On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 at 18:53, Chris Hodges wrote: > NCR45 in

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging bike ramp/ bike path down steps

2020-12-13 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-GB
Dec 13, 2020, 20:52 by talk-gb@openstreetmap.org: > Dec 13, 2020, 19:50 by ch...@c-hodges.co.uk: > >> So how should this be tagged to indicate that the bike route really does go >> down the steps? >> > Add them to bike route relation. > Obviously it applies only if there is some signed bicycle

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging bike ramp/ bike path down steps

2020-12-13 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-GB
Dec 13, 2020, 19:50 by ch...@c-hodges.co.uk: > So how should this be tagged to indicate that the bike route really does go > down the steps? > Add them to bike route relation. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetm

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging bike ramp/ bike path down steps

2020-12-13 Thread Edward Catmur via Talk-GB
On Sun, 13 Dec 2020, 19:14 David Woolley, wrote: > On 13/12/2020 19:05, Edward Catmur via Talk-GB wrote: > > Also, the steps should have bicycle=dismount, not =yes. This will allow > > people who can't dismount to go around by the road. > > Only if it is illegal to try to cycle up and down the st

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging bike ramp/ bike path down steps

2020-12-13 Thread David Woolley
On 13/12/2020 19:05, Edward Catmur via Talk-GB wrote: Also, the steps should have bicycle=dismount, not =yes. This will allow people who can't dismount to go around by the road. Only if it is illegal to try to cycle up and down the steps. Otherwise it is the duty of the renderer (router) to i

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging bike ramp/ bike path down steps

2020-12-13 Thread Edward Catmur via Talk-GB
On Sun, 13 Dec 2020, 19:02 Adam Snape, wrote: > highway=steps > ramp:bicycle=yes > Right. The cycle route isn't mapped at all, from what I can tell? Also, the steps should have bicycle=dismount, not =yes. This will allow people who can't dismount to go around by the road. > Kind regards, > >

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging bike ramp/ bike path down steps

2020-12-13 Thread Adam Snape
highway=steps ramp:bicycle=yes Kind regards, Adam On Sun, 13 Dec 2020, 18:53 Chris Hodges, wrote: > NCR45 in Stroud goes down a rather steep flight of steps to cross > Dudbridge Road. I can confirm that is what the signs say, having been > there yesterday. Also the Sustrans/OS map shows it t

[Talk-GB] Tagging bike ramp/ bike path down steps

2020-12-13 Thread Chris Hodges
NCR45 in Stroud goes down a rather steep flight of steps to cross Dudbridge Road. I can confirm that is what the signs say, having been there yesterday.  Also the Sustrans/OS map shows it taking the line of the steps https://osmaps.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/51.73875,-2.23631,18 There is a narrow ra