[Talk-GB] UK Chapter

Hi everyone We're making steady progress on producing a "clean" set of Articles. Next concall will be scheduled when these are ready- might not be for a week or so, we're fitting this in around busy schedules Regards Brian ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk

Re: [Talk-GB] UK chapter

Hi guys... I have setup a blogger blog. https://osmuk.blogspot.co.uk/ I believe that a blog will improve the way we can distribute information and encourage an active discussion via comments. I have made comment sections open to everyone but we can lock this down to registered users. I in

Re: [Talk-GB] UK chapter

Same details as before for tonight's concall: 0800 2290900 code 33224 On 28 April 2016 at 18:11, SK53 wrote: > I presume it is the same as previous conference calls. See older mails on > this list. > > Jerry > > On 28 April 2016 at 17:16, Dennis Bauszus wrote: > >> Have the number and password

Re: [Talk-GB] UK chapter

The details I have (from previous calls) is... phone: 0800 229 0900 password: 332249 I started a document for collaborative/live minuting, here: https://hackpad.com/2016-04-28-OSM-UK-Meeting-1G7GMcJ26O7 My WiFi connection hass been a bit funny lately, so hoping I stay able to take minutes. Grego

Re: [Talk-GB] UK chapter

I presume it is the same as previous conference calls. See older mails on this list. Jerry On 28 April 2016 at 17:16, Dennis Bauszus wrote: > Have the number and password for the conference call this evening already > been passed out? > > Dennis > > > ___

Re: [Talk-GB] UK chapter

Have the number and password for the conference call this evening already been passed out? Dennis ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb

Re: [Talk-GB] UK chapter

Before we started on this there was a survey which 100 people replied to, with a majority indicating they were in favour of a local chapter, which does indicate some need. I do go out mapping regularly too and improve the quality/quantity of the data - as do most of the people currently working t

Re: [Talk-GB] UK chapter

On 27/04/2016 16:11, Brian Prangle wrote: Dave I couldn't agree more, but for a formal organisation then I'm afraid the bureaucratic activities are a necessary evil. I'm sure all of those engaged in this process are like me and would rather be out mapping. Then why don't you? From the previou

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Chapter Directors' Powers

Hi Richard, All, TL;DR Lets move on and try and ignore that fact that I failed to read up on Company Act before throwing an idea out there!! Onwards and upwards :-) I had been trying to look at the way we will work on a day to day basis (which I hope will be as a community) and therefore how the

Re: [Talk-GB] UK chapter

Dave I couldn't agree more, but for a formal organisation then I'm afraid the bureaucratic activities are a necessary evil. I'm sure all of those engaged in this process are like me and would rather be out mapping. And there'll always be mappers who don't want to join any formal organisation, just

Re: [Talk-GB] UK chapter

Dennis Thanks for your offers of support - I'm sure they'll be taken up enthusiastically once we've got through the drudgery of incorporation Regards Brian On 27 April 2016 at 14:41, Dennis Bauszus wrote: > I also missed the previous conference call due to a deadline. Will sit in > again tomo

Re: [Talk-GB] UK chapter

On 27/04/2016 13:52, Gregory wrote: I'm surprised we've got such a short list of members. Could it be that many just aren't interested in A/EGMs, Associate members, committee meetings, agendas or minutes & just want to go out & map? Dave F. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Av

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I also missed the previous conference call due to a deadline. Will sit in again tomorrow evening. I have reminded a few people to sign up as founding members. I would also recommend to contact GIS teachers at UK universities. I recently participated in a careers talk for first year GIS student

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Chapter Directors' Powers

Rob, While I understand the thrust you're trying to make towards a more "members have the power" system, setting the bar as low as five members and having a simple "online poll" in lieu of a meeting of the members would have two problems: 1. Entryism would be almost comically easy. It would be

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Chapter Directors' Powers

Sorry for replying to the other director-power thread before seeing this more recent one. The decision made in the meeting seems like a sensible one, and goes with Richard's advise to make the AoA very permissive. To help the member-led intention, we should perhaps be aiming to treat the director

Re: [Talk-GB] UK chapter

Apologies for not making the conference call last week, and I forgot to send my apologies (was busy leading a Missing Maps event). I should be able to make the one tomorrow evening. I'm surprised we've got such a short list of members, are people waiting for the first GM to happen when fees are t

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Chapter Directors' Powers

Rob Nickerson wrote: > The poll we did last year (?) suggested that the OpenStreetMap UK > community want to be involved in decision making. My suggestion is > that, if this is the culture we want to breed then the Articles should > reflect this. I'm the chairman of a community-owned non-profit

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Chapter Directors' Powers

On 23 April 2016 at 16:10, Rob Nickerson wrote: > To breed a culture of Member-led organisation (with Directors as figure > heads) I suggest: > > Directors have all the power > Members can direct the Directors to take/refrain from taking action via a > ORDINARY Resolution > Voting on Ordinary reso

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Chapter Directors' Powers

Draft articles: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NbHiUcQjz0SHKlt6BzGp2z_Lo1YH1RmdEZ2kMkpNI04/edit *Rob* On 23 April 2016 at 16:10, Rob Nickerson wrote: > > To breed a culture of Member-led organisation (with Directors as figure > heads) I suggest: > >1. Directors have all the power >

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Chapter Directors' Powers

On 22/04/16 12:14, Brian Prangle wrote: > > *Full powers*. Standard boilerplate text. Easy to do. Downside is > that removing powers may require alterations to AoA, and furthermore > restricting Directors' powers is quite likely to end up being > contentious. Any such process will a

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Chapter Directors' Powers

On 22/04/16 12:14, Brian Prangle wrote: *Full powers*. Standard boilerplate text. Easy to do. Downside is that removing powers may require alterations to AoA, and furthermore restricting Directors' powers is quite likely to end up being contentious. Any such process will appear t

[Talk-GB] UK Chapter Directors' Powers

Hi everyone As promised - here's a discussion on the issue Jerry proposed a number of scenarios which we discussed: 1. *Full powers*. Standard boilerplate text. Easy to do. Downside is that removing powers may require alterations to AoA, and furthermore restricting Directors' power

[Talk-GB] UK chapter

Hi everyone Last night's concall made some good progress: there are no minutes (Greg we missed you!), but here is a summary of decisions and contentions 1. Name to appear on incorporation documents will be OpenStreetMap United Kingdom Community Interest Company. No doubt in everyday use this will

[Talk-GB] UK chapter next concall POSTPONED ONE DAY

Hi everyone WAS cheduled for Wed 20 April at 8pm NOW Thurs 21 April at 8 pm Details as usual 0800 2290900 password 33224 See you there! It would be good if we could finalise the Articles of Association at this concall. Please add comments for the AoA here

Re: [Talk-GB] UK chapter

I now have a spreadsheet with 6 founding members on. I've replied to each person to confirm I received their e-mail. Anyone future e-mails to [osmuk at nomoregrapes.com] with full name and postal address, I'll also add as founding members and reply to confirm. I'll do this in batches though, so it

Re: [Talk-GB] [UK Chapter] Definition of OSM.

Echoing Jerry's previous plea - please comment on the Google docs AoA- there has been a fresh definition of OpenStreetMap there for several days Regards Brian On 22 March 2016 at 21:32, Tim Waters wrote: > Frederik is correct in saying that OpenStreetMap Project does not > appear in the OSMF A

Re: [Talk-GB] [UK Chapter] Definition of OSM.

Frederik is correct in saying that OpenStreetMap Project does not appear in the OSMF Articles of Association. However, on the OSMF website, the following words are used: "The Foundation supports the OpenStreetMap Project." So the wider OSM "thing" is the OpenStreetMap Project rather than the Open

[Talk-GB] UK chapter

Hi everyone Anyone wishing to be listed as a founder member on the incorporation documents to be registered at Companies House please send your full name and address to "osmuk at nomoregrapes.com" . In case anyone wonders whose address this is: it's Gregory Marler's I guess legally that entitles

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Chapter: Who will be the "we"?

Dave At its narrowest - the members who pay the subscription At its widest - anyone who produces or uses OSM data in the UK Regards Brian On 21 March 2016 at 00:40, Dave F wrote: > Hi all > > OK, this a genuine, non rhetorical, non cynical question. > > I've loosely been following the discuss

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Chapter: Who will be the "we"?

Hi Dave, I think that the "we" would be the members of the organization. Tim On 21 March 2016 at 00:40, Dave F wrote: > Hi all > > OK, this a genuine, non rhetorical, non cynical question. > > I've loosely been following the discussions of setting up a UK:chapter of > OSM. > > After you've deci

[Talk-GB] UK Chapter: Who will be the "we"?

Hi all OK, this a genuine, non rhetorical, non cynical question. I've loosely been following the discussions of setting up a UK:chapter of OSM. After you've decided upon the process you all want to take & when you've started writing documents & sending emails out to the wider world, who wil

Re: [Talk-GB] [UK Chapter] Definition of OSM.

On 20/03/16 19:25, Amaroussi (OpenStreetMap) wrote: The most simplest phrase I can think of that isn’t as flippant as the Thameslink Programme would be “an open-access cartography service”. The service is not the main part of the operation. That is provided by the map database. The associate

Re: [Talk-GB] [UK Chapter] Definition of OSM.

Hi, The most simplest phrase I can think of that isn’t as flippant as the Thameslink Programme would be “an open-access cartography service”. — Amaroussi. > On 20 Mar 2016, at 18:44, Gregory wrote: > > This isn't a description/blurb for the website/marketing. > > This is for the AoA which is

Re: [Talk-GB] [UK Chapter] Definition of OSM.

Hi, On 03/20/2016 06:36 PM, Gregory wrote: > Included in the meeting on Thursday[1] was discussion on the definition > of "OpenStreetMap" in the AoA. It might be interesting to consider - unless you've done that already - that the OSMF itself is *not* limited to supporting OpenStreetMap; in fact

Re: [Talk-GB] [UK Chapter] Definition of OSM.

This isn't a description/blurb for the website/marketing. This is for the AoA which is a legal document and needs to state what it means when it refers to "OpenStreetMap". Reading the document (or searching it for "OpenStreetMap") will help you understand the relevance. As Jerry said on the call,

Re: [Talk-GB] [UK Chapter] Definition of OSM.

Dang, wrong sender email and wrong destination email again! Maybe try: “A free map service where users don’t need to pay elephant-sized fees to reuse the data.” or “Maps without borders, literally.” —Amaroussi > On 20 Mar 2016, at 17:36, Gregory wrote: > > Hi all, > > Included in the mee

[Talk-GB] [UK Chapter] Definition of OSM.

Hi all, Included in the meeting on Thursday[1] was discussion on the definition of "OpenStreetMap" in the AoA. For me, I think it is important that OSM is not controlled by a single entity, and the ability to fork and/or replicate it is essential. Some folk may feel more strong about me. I am act

[Talk-GB] [UK Chapter] Board of directors

Hello all, Discussion in the meeting tonight[1], included how many directors there should be and how their power is managed. How many should there be? The OSMF's AoA[2] clause 35 defines a range from 2-8 board directors by the end of an election. Scenarios at an AGM are: the size doesn't change;

Re: [Talk-GB] [UK Chapter] Board of directors

Yes great notes. Unfortunately the calls are just when I doing "bedtime" so I've not been able to make any. In practical terms a variable size board allows a bit a flexibility to size the board according to how many people are available. I do think it's useful to have an even odd sized board. But

Re: [Talk-GB] [UK Chapter] Board of directors

Thank you for taking quality notes. I am lurking and reading your discussions. On Thu, 17 Mar 2016 at 23:55, Gregory wrote: > Hello all, > > Discussion in the meeting tonight[1], included how many directors there > should be and how their power is managed. > > How many should there be? > The OSM

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Chapter update

Hi everyone, We would like to be part of the UK Chapter of OSM and are happy to discuss sponsoring. I am working for Geolytix http://geolytix.co.uk/ and we are looking into means of making OSM the base for our datasets moving gradually away from Ordnance Survey Vector Maps. I am looking fo

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Chapter next concall

Thanks Brian, On corporate members recent experience with SotM shows that this gives you an up to date list of contact details of potential sponsors. This is great if we want to do fund-raising beyond what our membership fee covers (which I think we should). Voting should be extended to them too

[Talk-GB] UK Chapter next concall

Hi everyone Let's go for Thurday 17March at 8pm. Same details as before- I'll post a reminder of phone number and entry code the day before Agenda: 1.Articles of Association- this should take the bulk of the meeting- Jerry and I will have a draft ready for you a couple of days beforehand. Most o

[Talk-GB] UK Chapter update

Hi everyone I'll be scheduling a concall shortly where we can progress the Articles of Association and also hopefully finalise the objectives and name of the chapter. Membership options: the following is offered as a summary of what we might do: 1.Standard membership £5 per year Pros: affordable