Re: [Talk-GB] Urban Mixed Access Ways and Barriers (restricted to motor vehicles, open to foot)

2013-09-12 Thread OpenStreetmap HADW
On 7 September 2013 21:41, SomeoneElse wrote: > OpenStreetmap HADW wrote: >> >> In practice, there is only one renderer for general users > > > That's a statement that could provoke some discussion, I suspect. > > If you have a look at the questions on help.osm.org you'll see lots of "why > doesn'

Re: [Talk-GB] Urban Mixed Access Ways and Barriers (restricted to motor vehicles, open to foot)

2013-09-07 Thread SomeoneElse
OpenStreetmap HADW wrote: In practice, there is only one renderer for general users That's a statement that could provoke some discussion, I suspect. If you have a look at the questions on help.osm.org you'll see lots of "why doesn't X do Y" type questions, but it isn't always immediately ob

Re: [Talk-GB] Urban Mixed Access Ways and Barriers (restricted to motor vehicles, open to foot)

2013-09-07 Thread lester
Sent from my android device so the quoting is crap! -Original Message- From: OpenStreetmap HADW To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Sent: Sat, 07 Sep 2013 15:07 Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Urban Mixed Access Ways and Barriers (restricted to motor vehicles, open to foot) On 7 September 2013 14:46

Re: [Talk-GB] Urban Mixed Access Ways and Barriers (restricted to motor vehicles, open to foot)

2013-09-07 Thread lester
Long time discussion but the data is not the map. If a detail is need, such as adding a way to show the pedestrian route around an object, then it should be mapped. Not mapping it leaves gaps in the data. Now replacing the obstruction with a short length of 'footpath' may be an alternative, but

Re: [Talk-GB] Urban Mixed Access Ways and Barriers (restricted to motor vehicles, open to foot)

2013-09-07 Thread OpenStreetmap HADW
On 7 September 2013 14:36, wrote: > Sent from my android device so the quoting is crapp! > > > -Original Message- > From: OpenStreetmap HADW > To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org > Sent: Sat, 07 Sep 2013 13:44 > Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Urban Mixed Access Ways and

Re: [Talk-GB] Urban Mixed Access Ways and Barriers (restricted to motor vehicles, open to foot)

2013-09-07 Thread OpenStreetmap HADW
On 7 September 2013 14:46, Philip Barnes wrote: > > Streetmaps do tend to be abstractions of the real world, and > openstreetmap ceased to be be a mere streetmap several years ago, and is > a far far better map than a mere streetmap can ever be. The word > streetmap implies urban, cities. OS ma

Re: [Talk-GB] Urban Mixed Access Ways and Barriers (restricted to motor vehicles, open to foot)

2013-09-07 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sat, 2013-09-07 at 13:43 +0100, OpenStreetmap HADW wrote: > On 7 September 2013 12:15, SomeoneElse wrote: > > > > > In that instance isn't there effectively a short footway that runs parallel > > to the short piece of road that has the barrier on it? > > > Micro-mapping tends to clutter the re

Re: [Talk-GB] Urban Mixed Access Ways and Barriers (restricted to motor vehicles, open to foot)

2013-09-07 Thread lester
Sent from my android device so the quoting is crapp! -Original Message- From: OpenStreetmap HADW To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Sent: Sat, 07 Sep 2013 13:44 Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Urban Mixed Access Ways and Barriers (restricted to motor vehicles, open to foot) On 7 September 2013 12:15

Re: [Talk-GB] Urban Mixed Access Ways and Barriers (restricted to motor vehicles, open to foot)

2013-09-07 Thread OpenStreetmap HADW
On 7 September 2013 12:15, SomeoneElse wrote: > > In that instance isn't there effectively a short footway that runs parallel > to the short piece of road that has the barrier on it? > Micro-mapping tends to clutter the rendered map. In any case, street maps are abstractions of the real world an

Re: [Talk-GB] Urban Mixed Access Ways and Barriers (restricted to motor vehicles, open to foot)

2013-09-07 Thread lester
Sent from my android device so the quoting is crap! -Original Message- From: SomeoneElse To: "talk-gb@openstreetmap.org" Sent: Sat, 07 Sep 2013 12:16 Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Urban Mixed Access Ways and Barriers (restricted to motor vehicles, open to foot) OpenStreetmap HADW

Re: [Talk-GB] Urban Mixed Access Ways and Barriers (restricted to motor vehicles, open to foot)

2013-09-07 Thread SomeoneElse
OpenStreetmap HADW wrote: I keep coming across cases where marking the access to a way based on primary category will imply that the way is not suitable for use on foot. That becomes particularly interesting with barriers, as in those cases, the sidewalk may bypass the barrier. In that instan

[Talk-GB] Urban Mixed Access Ways and Barriers (restricted to motor vehicles, open to foot)

2013-09-07 Thread OpenStreetmap HADW
I keep coming across cases where marking the access to a way based on primary category will imply that the way is not suitable for use on foot. That becomes particularly interesting with barriers, as in those cases, the sidewalk may bypass the barrier. For concrete examples, I'll use Northwick Pa