Re: [Talk-GB] Geospatial Commission to release UPRN/ UPSN identifiers under Open Government Licence

On 09/04/2020 20:58, nd...@redhazel.co.uk wrote: If uprn is supposed to denote an address, why not simply use addr:uprn? There is no intention that UPRN will replace an address. It will be able to return a unique address but there will be no move to remove that duplicate data from OSM. What

Re: [Talk-GB] Geospatial Commission to release UPRN/ UPSN identifiers under Open Government Licence

If uprn is supposed to denote an address, why not simply use addr:uprn? ndrw6 ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb

Re: [Talk-GB] Geospatial Commission to release UPRN/ UPSN identifiers under Open Government Licence

Op do 9 apr. 2020 om 19:47 schreef Lester Caine : > > On 09/04/2020 15:32, Mark Goodge wrote: > >> So I'd propose that we use either ref:uprn and ref:usrn, or > >> ref:UK:uprn and ref:UK:usrn. What does everyone else think? > > > > I'd be happy with either, so long as it's consistent. > > That is

Re: [Talk-GB] Q2 2020 Quarterly project GP Surgeries and health sites

That's a great idea. I'll get the OSMUK machine rolling. On Thu, 9 Apr 2020, 17:27 Andy Mabbett, wrote: > On Wed, 8 Apr 2020 at 22:55, Gareth L wrote: > > > The UK quarterly project for Q2 2020 has been selected as GP > > Surgeries and health sites. > > Good to know; thank you. > > Do we

Re: [Talk-GB] Geospatial Commission to release UPRN/ UPSN identifiers under Open Government Licence

On 09/04/2020 15:32, Mark Goodge wrote: So I'd propose that we use either ref:uprn and ref:usrn, or ref:UK:uprn and ref:UK:usrn. What does everyone else think? I'd be happy with either, so long as it's consistent. That is ideal from my point of view ... yes you can get the country by

Re: [Talk-GB] Geospatial Commission to release UPRN/ UPSN identifiers under Open Government Licence

On 09/04/2020 17:18, Andy Mabbett wrote: On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 at 13:06, Mark Goodge wrote: They're a 10 to 12 digit integer. Is there a check digit? No, they're a simple sequential allocation. So an error can't be detected internally, it does need to be verified. But the same is true of

Re: [Talk-GB] Q2 2020 Quarterly project GP Surgeries and health sites

On Wed, 8 Apr 2020 at 22:55, Gareth L wrote: > The UK quarterly project for Q2 2020 has been selected as GP > Surgeries and health sites. Good to know; thank you. Do we have, or plan, any social media promotion of this activity? I'd be happy to amplify it, and my contacts at Wikimedia UK will

Re: [Talk-GB] Geospatial Commission to release UPRN/ UPSN identifiers under Open Government Licence

On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 at 13:06, Mark Goodge wrote: > They're a 10 to 12 digit integer. Is there a check digit? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-GB] Geospatial Commission to release UPRN/ UPSN identifiers under Open Government Licence

On 09/04/2020 14:26, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote: I would have said that ref:uprn and ref:usrn are the natural choices for use to use. However, I've seen some calls for country codes to be added to 3rd-party ref values, so we might consider ref:UK:uprn and ref:UK:usrn instead. This

Re: [Talk-GB] Geospatial Commission to release UPRN/ UPSN identifiers under Open Government Licence

It would seem to be "rather" unlikely that such reference ids would be named UPRN and UPSN outside of the UK to start with, so a more generic building_ref, street_ref or similar would be likely more sensible (if there is any value at all in mapping these). And yes similar concepts exist outside of

Re: [Talk-GB] Geospatial Commission to release UPRN/ UPSN identifiers under Open Government Licence

Can’t the key location be inferred by the fact it is within a country bounds rather than redundantly added? Gareth > On 9 Apr 2020, at 14:46, Tony OSM wrote: > > That makes perfect sense to me. > > Any other views? > > Tony > >> On 09/04/2020 14:31, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote: >>>

Re: [Talk-GB] Geospatial Commission to release UPRN/ UPSN identifiers under Open Government Licence

That makes perfect sense to me. Any other views? Tony On 09/04/2020 14:31, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote: On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 at 14:26, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote: On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 at 09:21, Tony OSM wrote: If the data is to be in the public domain the next step has to be

Re: [Talk-GB] Geospatial Commission to release UPRN/ UPSN identifiers under Open Government Licence

On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 at 14:26, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote: > On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 at 09:21, Tony OSM wrote: > > If the data is to be in the public domain the next step has to be tagging. > > Do we need country specific tags for these two pieces of data? > > What should they be? > [snip] > >

Re: [Talk-GB] Q2 2020 Quarterly project GP Surgeries and health sites

I've added Jerry's comments to https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/UK_2020_Q2_Project:_GP_Surgeries_and_Healthsites#Potential_sources_and_tools which is there for all of you to edit and add to. On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 12:09 PM SK53 wrote: > Robert Whittaker has a Pharmacy QA

Re: [Talk-GB] Geospatial Commission to release UPRN/ UPSN identifiers under Open Government Licence

On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 at 09:21, Tony OSM wrote: > If the data is to be in the public domain the next step has to be tagging. > Do we need country specific tags for these two pieces of data? > What should they be? Looking at taginfo, there are a number of different tags in use for UPRN values (see

Re: [Talk-GB] Geospatial Commission to release UPRN/ UPSN identifiers under Open Government Licence

On 03/04/2020 10:15, Peter Neale via Talk-GB wrote: So, will I have to quote a 20-digit alpha-numeric code, if I want to order something from Amazon? ..or get my grandchildren to send me a birthday card? (I do not know what these UPRN's look like, but I bet they are not as easy to remember

Re: [Talk-GB] Q2 2020 Quarterly project GP Surgeries and health sites

Robert Whittaker has a Pharmacy QA site (usefulness is somewhat limited because of on-line pharmacies & in hospital ones). Most ordinary pharmacies appear in FHRS data as well. All CQC data (including dentists & care homes) is available on Will Phillips

Re: [Talk-GB] Geospatial Commission to release UPRN/ UPSN identifiers under Open Government Licence

On 09/04/2020 10:46, Peter Neale via Talk-GB wrote: Hi Lester, Sorry if my post was a bit of a rant.  I have a history of having to fight to get IT systems that do the hard work and preventing them demanding that people do the translation into "machine-speak". My rant has always been that

Re: [Talk-GB] Geospatial Commission to release UPRN/ UPSN identifiers under Open Government Licence

Hi Lester, Sorry if my post was a bit of a rant.  I have a history of having to fight to get IT systems that do the hard work and preventing them demanding that people do the translation into "machine-speak". Thanks for the explanation. Regards,Peter On Thursday, 9 April 2020, 10:29:05 BST,

Re: [Talk-GB] Geospatial Commission to release UPRN/ UPSN identifiers under Open Government Licence

On 03/04/2020 10:15, Peter Neale via Talk-GB wrote: So, will I have to quote a 20-digit alpha-numeric code, if I want to order something from Amazon? ..or get my grandchildren to send me a birthday card? (I do not know what these UPRN's look like, but I bet they are not as easy to remember

Re: [Talk-GB] Geospatial Commission to release UPRN/ UPSN identifiers under Open Government Licence

On 09/04/2020 09:19, Tony OSM wrote: Thanks to Andy for highlighting this. If the data is to be in the public domain the next step has to be tagging. As someone who has been using this data internally for clients who are the councils who have been providing it TO the charged for services I'm

Re: [Talk-GB] Geospatial Commission to release UPRN/ UPSN identifiers under Open Government Licence

Thanks to Andy for highlighting this. If the data is to be in the public domain the next step has to be tagging. Do we need country specific tags for these two pieces of data? What should they be? Do we need a wiki for them , where?  I'll summarise the answers and create a wiki page if