Re: [Talk-GB] inferred single-carriageway NSL?

2011-03-17 Thread Ed Loach
Peter wrote: Then there are the '30mph' which should for consistency be '30 mph' (with a space). Kevin replied: I don't see the point of editing just for consistency. Developers should handle leading/trailing spaces, or the lack thereof, and different capitalisation, as without any input

Re: [Talk-GB] inferred single-carriageway NSL?

2011-03-17 Thread Andy Allan
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com wrote: You should note that PotLatch2 uses the space version when using the 'simple' interface. (What's with the L?) And anyone who uses PotLatch will be increasing the preponderance of the '30 mph' version. All I ask

Re: [Talk-GB] inferred single-carriageway NSL?

2011-03-16 Thread Peter Miller
On 13 March 2011 15:55, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote: On 13/03/11 15:41, Ed Loach wrote: You've probably seen the numerous edits by chriscf. Can anyone explain the purpose of these edits what the the tags below even mean? I can try, but The bot appears to be adding a

Re: [Talk-GB] inferred single-carriageway NSL?

2011-03-16 Thread Andy Street
On Wed, 2011-03-16 at 16:48 +, Peter Miller wrote: On 13 March 2011 15:55, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote: On 13/03/11 15:41, Ed Loach wrote: You've probably seen the numerous edits by chriscf. Can anyone

Re: [Talk-GB] inferred single-carriageway NSL?

2011-03-16 Thread Ian Spencer
Tim Franois wrote on 16/03/2011 17:04: pedant

Re: [Talk-GB] inferred single-carriageway NSL?

2011-03-16 Thread Kevin Peat
On 16 March 2011 17:00, Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com wrote: Then there are the '30mph' which should for consistency be '30 mph' (with a space). I don't see the point of editing just for consistency. Developers should handle leading/trailing spaces, or the lack thereof, and

Re: [Talk-GB] inferred single-carriageway NSL?

2011-03-16 Thread Colin Smale
On 16/03/2011 18:00, Peter Miller wrote: My understanding is that the signed speed limits are those that must be obeyed by those classes of vehicles that are not limited by some other rule. I don't consider that we need to do more that we are which is to reflect the street sign in the data.

Re: [Talk-GB] inferred single-carriageway NSL?

2011-03-16 Thread Ian Spencer
Kevin Peat wrote on 16/03/2011 17:27: On 16 March 2011 17:00, Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com wrote: Then there are the '30mph' which should for consistency be '30 mph' (with a space).

Re: [Talk-GB] inferred single-carriageway NSL?

2011-03-16 Thread Peter Miller
On 16 March 2011 17:43, Ian Spencer ianmspen...@gmail.com wrote: Kevin Peat wrote on 16/03/2011 17:27: On 16 March 2011 17:00, Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com wrote: Then there are the '30mph' which should for consistency be '30 mph' (with a space). I don't see the point of

Re: [Talk-GB] inferred single-carriageway NSL?

2011-03-16 Thread Peter Miller
On 16 March 2011 17:38, Colin Smale colin.sm...@xs4all.nl wrote: On 16/03/2011 18:00, Peter Miller wrote: My understanding is that the signed speed limits are those that must be obeyed by those classes of vehicles that are not limited by some other rule. I don't consider that we need to do

Re: [Talk-GB] inferred single-carriageway NSL?

2011-03-16 Thread Richard Bullock
In summary, this little tag is much less simple than it may appear at first glance! I am very interested in getting a fuller set of this data into OSM. Thanks for the 'pedantic' examples of 60mph limits on dual carriageways. Being pedantic back can anyone demonstrate the existence of a 60 mph

Re: [Talk-GB] inferred single-carriageway NSL?

2011-03-16 Thread Graham Jones
A few months ago there was a proposal to define defaults for given areas so you only tag exceptions. That sounded very sensible to me, but I do not know what happened to it. Graham from my phone On 16 Mar 2011 18:59, Richard Bullock rb...@cantab.net wrote: In summary, this little tag is

Re: [Talk-GB] inferred single-carriageway NSL?

2011-03-16 Thread Peter Miller
On 16 March 2011 18:58, Richard Bullock rb...@cantab.net wrote: In summary, this little tag is much less simple than it may appear at first glance! I am very interested in getting a fuller set of this data into OSM. Thanks for the 'pedantic' examples of 60mph limits on dual carriageways.

Re: [Talk-GB] inferred single-carriageway NSL?

2011-03-16 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Richard Bullock wrote: Do we *really* need to be tagging national speed limits on individual ways? E.g. the vast majority of roads ought to be one of; *residential roads subject to 30mph *rural roads subject to NSL Perhaps we could tag the ones that differ from the above - and let

Re: [Talk-GB] inferred single-carriageway NSL?

2011-03-16 Thread MarkS
On 16/03/2011 19:31, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Richard Bullock wrote: Do we *really* need to be tagging national speed limits on individual ways? E.g. the vast majority of roads ought to be one of; *residential roads subject to 30mph *rural roads subject to NSL Perhaps we could tag the ones that

Re: [Talk-GB] inferred single-carriageway NSL?

2011-03-16 Thread Dave F.
On 13/03/2011 12:27, Dave F. wrote: Hi You've probably seen the numerous edits by chriscf. Well, after reading up on this, I kind of understand what the source:maxspeed is used for, but I'm not happy that chriscf has guessed that value for key tags that were added by other users. As

[Talk-GB] inferred single-carriageway NSL?

2011-03-13 Thread Dave F.
Hi You've probably seen the numerous edits by chriscf. Can anyone explain the purpose of these edits what the the tags below even mean? I've had no reply to an email sent to him a couple of days ago In my locality, each of his edits already had a maxspeed (with units) tag accurately mapped

Re: [Talk-GB] inferred single-carriageway NSL?

2011-03-13 Thread Tom Hughes
On 13/03/11 12:27, Dave F. wrote: You've probably seen the numerous edits by chriscf. Can anyone explain the purpose of these edits what the the tags below even mean? I've had no reply to an email sent to him a couple of days ago I've been wondering much the same. In my locality, each of

Re: [Talk-GB] inferred single-carriageway NSL?

2011-03-13 Thread Kevin Peat
He added these tags to some dual carriageway in my area that already had speed limit tags. I was just going to delete them as they seem pointless. Anyone know otherwise? Kevin On 13 Mar 2011 12:28, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: Hi You've probably seen the numerous edits by chriscf.

Re: [Talk-GB] inferred single-carriageway NSL?

2011-03-13 Thread Ed Loach
You've probably seen the numerous edits by chriscf. Can anyone explain the purpose of these edits what the the tags below even mean? I can try, but I've had no reply to an email sent to him a couple of days ago nor have I, so it is mainly guesswork. source:maxspeed does have a page on

Re: [Talk-GB] inferred single-carriageway NSL?

2011-03-13 Thread Tom Hughes
On 13/03/11 15:41, Ed Loach wrote: You've probably seen the numerous edits by chriscf. Can anyone explain the purpose of these edits what the the tags below even mean? I can try, but I've had no reply to an email sent to him a couple of days ago nor have I, so it is mainly guesswork.