[talk-au] Discussion K: Evaluation of ACT paths audit 2012 and the OSM ACT dataset

# Discussion K: Evaluation of ACT paths audit 2012 and the OSM ACT dataset ## The Issue It is clear from the OSM dataset for in the ACT, that it is the product of using the editor presets for paths. The OSM Australian Tagging Guidelines (ATG) is consistent with the real use and the legal

[talk-au] Discussion J: regionalisation of editor presets

Discussion J: regionalisation of editor presets I am now putting the question at the top and bottom of the text. ## QUESTION How can the presets for the editor (ID and JOSM) be changed to the ATG default for the ACT when editing paths in this territory? # The Issue (background) What is the

[talk-au] Discussion I: Quality is the coherence of four things

# Discussion I: Quality is the coherence of four things Lots of good news but some bad. Another way to look at the quality of the OSM data is the coherence of four things: 1. What is found on the ground (real life) 2. The actual tagging found in OSM dataset 3. The Australian Tagging Guidelines

Re: [talk-au] Discussion D: mapping ACT for cyclists – complying with ACT law

I apologise for the tone of the first post yesterday. I was a bit unwell. *** # The ATG proposed changes for paths in the ACT I have decided to write this as a proposal of changes to the ATG in the ACT (if any) and consideration of the consequences. For the paths found in the ACT, I will

Re: [talk-au] Discussion D: mapping ACT for cyclists – complying with ACT law

# Principle of tagging 1. Tagging should be consistent with the laws of the jurisdiction 2. Tagging should not be code but be explicit 3. Tagging should be useful 4. Tagging should be intuitive 5. Tagging should be easy (regional presets) I will comment on the first two. ## Principle 1 ONE set

Re: [talk-au] Discussion D: mapping ACT for cyclists – complying with ACT law

There are almost no paths in the ACT compliant with Australian Tagging Guidelines and ACT law. You can visualise these for yourself. The script should turn up thousands of hits but there are almost none. Try this overpass turbo script. https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/MQp ‐‐‐ Original Message

[talk-au] Discussion I: Consultation ends and OSM Wiki starts

# Discussion I: Consultation ends and OSM Wiki starts Thanks for your support and assistance with the ACT OSM mapping project. The consultation phase ends now and I will take your comments and consolidate the information into OSM Wiki pages in the ACT section. I expect it will be an overview

[talk-au] Discussion H: public transport – the end game

# Discussion H: public transport – the end game Bus routes (relations) were changed in the ACT in 2019 with the introduction of Civic to Gungahlin light rail, effective 29 April 2019. The bus network in Canberra changed from a mesh network (bumble buses) to a “hub and spoke” system, the

[talk-au] Discussion G: nomenclature for routes in the ACT (relations)

# Discussion G: nomenclature for routes in the ACT (relations) *ACT bike routes (relations) need updating with the new nomenclature for the ACT. Australian Tagging Guidelines (ATG) needs to update too which I will draft at some stage.* Relations in the ACT are often out of date and troublesome

[talk-au] Discussion F: landuse=residential

# Discussion F: landuse=residential ## The Issue I am very interest in improving quality and consistency. In this case, the question is inconsistent or incomplete? I have discovered that many residential areas have still not been mapped. ### Specifics: landuse=residential There is a land

[talk-au] Discussion E: how to find faults in maps

# Discussion E: how to find faults in maps ## The Issue The ACT has 3000km of roads, 2000km of footpaths, and 329 km of shared bike paths, 1000s of km of formed trails (2/3 the state is rideable), a few 100kms of mountain biking "single-track" and a few dozen active planners at best. How do

[talk-au] Discussion D: mapping ACT for cyclists – complying with ACT law

# Discussion D: mapping ACT for cyclists – complying with ACT law I hope you can help. (If you open this plain text post to a markdown editor it will be fully formated. I recommend Typora.) Abbreviation: ATG - Australian Tagging Guidelines ## The Issue The way you use a map changes the way you

[talk-au] Discussion C: mapping on the street

Discussion C: mapping on the street OSM is great. I showed it to an organisation as large A0 maps of Canberra. The largest size that I could print. The maps still covered the whole board table when I left. I demonstrated an android app to the CEO. They had never heard of OSM of course. "Its a

[talk-au] Discussion B: three shades of green

Discussion B: three shades of green There are three areas along the Molonglo River in the ACT, each about 1-4 square km in size. All cover mostly in grass with the occasional dam, fences and creeks. But they are quite different in land use. One is a farm, one area is currently being built into

[talk-au] Discussion A: Is this forum fit for purpose?

# Discussion A: Is this forum fit for purpose? “PLEASE KEEP IT BRIEF. SPACE OF OF A PREMIUM. THANKS, JANE” ## The Issue The forum needs to be robust. It needs to tolerate a lot of traffic. It needs to work on the busy days, not just the quiet. It needs a functionality that allows you to

[talk-au] What are the Facts?

What are the Facts? > ‘Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.’> — > Daniel Patrick Moynihan I have decided to publish the discussion brief in two parts: “The Facts” and then “The Issue”. This is me telling you I am going to do that. I will send you the first part

[talk-au] What is a discussion brief?

What is a discussion brief? A discussion brief serves to describe comprehensively what we know before we go on to review an issue in OSM. The objective is to decide how to solve a nagging problem. I resist in saying the “best way” as I think often there may be no golden rule to be found. I

[talk-au] Upcoming events

# Upcoming events State: ACT Thank you for making me welcome in this forum. Thank you also for your inquiry about my last post. There are several upcoming events. Please feel welcome to make constructive suggestions. *** ## Mapping Party ACT If you are interested learning more about the ACT.

[talk-au] Three rules for OSM planning in Canberra

Three rules for OSM planning in Canberra **Rule 1: In Australian Communist Territory everything is owned by the government, Rule 2: everything is controlled by the government and Rule 3: nothing happens without the government know about it.** If you want to know why read on. (note: **text** is

[talk-au] Topic B: inconsistencies, idiosynchrosies and vagueness

A special thank you for the links yesterday. I have read them. "Australian Tagging Guidelines" and "Good practice" are worth knowing and I am very grateful for our forefathers that put so much effort into writing these documents. It worth noting, however, when you compared the two that they are

[talk-au] Discussion of state regulation and planing issues for OSM

Country: Australia, Language: English, Topic: Regulation This AU email forum is the best there is, but I wish there was something more. So, I will bring this topic up here where there may be community support for something extra. From the header above this user group is already specific but is

Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 147, Issue 8

You can do anything you want when it is not explicitly stated it is forbidden. I am picking up on a number of threads in this conservation topic. Mappers cannot know everything and cannot make decisions on land management issues particularly if the relevant authorities are yet to make the

[talk-au] play ground locations and much more from open data source but how?

how to do this? I want to upload the play ground locations to OSM. There is plenty more data where this came from. Just need to work out how to do it? Can you help. SOURCE: Open data sharing from ACT Government GeoHub How to upload single points to OSM. Example: Play Grounds