Re: [Talk-transit] GTFS, tools and pt tags generally

2016-06-26 Thread Stephen Sprunk
On 2016-06-25 00:53, Jo wrote: Darya (a GsoC student) is actually working on a project to help with the routing. We haven't included conversion from GTFS and I'm not sure there will be time for that. What's most time consuming, especially because of changes/breakings caused by other mappers and

Re: [Talk-transit] GTFS, tools and pt tags generally

2016-06-24 Thread Jo
Darya (a GsoC student) is actually working on a project to help with the routing. We haven't included conversion from GTFS and I'm not sure there will be time for that. What's most time consuming, especially because of changes/breakings caused by other mappers and PT itineraries subject to change,

Re: [Talk-transit] GTFS, tools and pt tags generally

2016-06-24 Thread Roland Olbricht
I'm sorry if I was unclear. I didn't mean that one person should just blindly dump every GTFS feed into OSM and leave it to others to clean up. I was thinking of something that an individual mapper could use to import the feed(s) in their particular area and resolve conflicts or errors before

Re: [Talk-transit] GTFS, tools and pt tags generally

2016-06-22 Thread Stephen Sprunk
On 2016-06-21 11:40, Roland Olbricht wrote: OTOH, this doesn't seem like a huge problem if we're importing the data from elsewhere using automated tools and only tweaking by hand where it's wrong--and ideally, there should be some sort of feedback mechanism to get the source corrected so even

Re: [Talk-transit] GTFS, tools and pt tags generally

2016-06-22 Thread Stephen Sprunk
On 2016-06-21 15:12, Paul Johnson wrote: On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 2:02 PM, Stephen Sprunk wrote: I found a couple transit-specific apps, but they refuse to work until I'm within some minimum distance of a stop. ... RideSystems (and yes, I'm calling them out on this, since

Re: [Talk-transit] GTFS, tools and pt tags generally

2016-06-21 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 2:02 PM, Stephen Sprunk wrote: > On 2016-06-21 00:27, Paul Johnson wrote: > >> On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 10:51 PM, Stephen Sprunk >> wrote: >> >>> On 2016-06-20 16:18, Paul Johnson wrote: >>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 2:02 PM, Stephen

Re: [Talk-transit] GTFS, tools and pt tags generally

2016-06-21 Thread Stephen Sprunk
On 2016-06-21 00:27, Paul Johnson wrote: On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 10:51 PM, Stephen Sprunk wrote: On 2016-06-20 16:18, Paul Johnson wrote: On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 2:02 PM, Stephen Sprunk wrote: The situation with GTFS data itself is so bad that Google

Re: [Talk-transit] GTFS, tools and pt tags generally

2016-06-21 Thread Roland Olbricht
Hi, OTOH, this doesn't seem like a huge problem if we're importing the data from elsewhere using automated tools and only tweaking by hand where it's wrong--and ideally, there should be some sort of feedback mechanism to get the source corrected so even that's a short-term problem. Well,

Re: [Talk-transit] GTFS, tools and pt tags generally

2016-06-20 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 10:51 PM, Stephen Sprunk wrote: > On 2016-06-20 16:18, Paul Johnson wrote: > >> On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 2:02 PM, Stephen Sprunk >> wrote: >> >>> >>> The situation with GTFS data itself is so bad that Google stopped >> offering

Re: [Talk-transit] GTFS, tools and pt tags generally

2016-06-20 Thread Stephen Sprunk
On 2016-06-20 16:18, Paul Johnson wrote: On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 2:02 PM, Stephen Sprunk wrote: On 2016-06-20 02:07, Roland Olbricht wrote: There had been a group that was very vocal for making a textbook example of design by committee, and the result is now known as

Re: [Talk-transit] GTFS, tools and pt tags generally

2016-06-20 Thread Mike N
On 6/20/2016 5:18 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: I really wonder how TriMet ultimately accomplished this, since that would seem like a decent-ish starting point since that system is in charge of a fairly multimodal system with above and below ground stations, split-level stations, and transit centers

Re: [Talk-transit] GTFS, tools and pt tags generally

2016-06-20 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 2:02 PM, Stephen Sprunk wrote: > On 2016-06-20 02:07, Roland Olbricht wrote: > >> There had been a group that was very vocal for making a textbook >> example of design by committee, and the result is now known as >> "approved public transport scheme".

Re: [Talk-transit] GTFS, tools and pt tags generally

2016-06-20 Thread Stephen Sprunk
On 2016-06-20 02:07, Roland Olbricht wrote: There had been a group that was very vocal for making a textbook example of design by committee, and the result is now known as "approved public transport scheme". They did not ask for input from experienced mappers or developers. I decided to consider