Re: [Talk-us] Cleaning up California FMMP "residential"

As the original importer of this data, I support Paul's proposal to selectively delete the larger residential areas, which mostly are too broad to be in OSM. I know the farm data has its problems, especially in the earlier counties where I didn't fully realize how to use techniques to fully optimiz

Re: [Talk-us] Neighborhoods / Zillow

What a fantastic post! I am a neighborhood guru, as mapping subdivisions is part of my job description at Baltimore County Government. i have several years experience mapping neighborhoods in the legal sense in an ESRI GIS environment, and have translated some of that to OSM in my spare time. When

Re: [Talk-us] ref tags

Kind of looking forward to that, too, since it would allow more accurately mapping situations like Oregon, where State Highways are the original numbers used on trailblazers and what ODOT refers to roads it's roadways as, as opposed to the State Routes that usually traverse multiple state highways.

Re: [Talk-us] ref tags

On 6/17/13 10:19 PM, Jason Remillard wrote: Hi, If the way is part of relation that has a ref, and the way itself does not have a ref, then the relation ref should propagate to the way. If the way has a ref, then that is what should be used regardless if its in a relation or not. Would that bre

Re: [Talk-us] ref tags

Hi, If the way is part of relation that has a ref, and the way itself does not have a ref, then the relation ref should propagate to the way. If the way has a ref, then that is what should be used regardless if its in a relation or not. Would that break anybody? Thanks Jason. On Mon, Jun 17, 2

Re: [Talk-us] ref tags

The excuse I've heard is that European countries "don't have concurrencies." Which conveniently ignores the E roads... On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 6:05 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: > Because, as I understand it, route relations are not used as extensively > in some regions / countries as they are h

Re: [Talk-us] ref tags

Because, as I understand it, route relations are not used as extensively in some regions / countries as they are here in the U.S. and we cannot impose this reliance on relationships for numbered route relations on everyone. Perhaps if we make it a switch / option in osm2pgsql so folks can choose ba

Re: [Talk-us] ref tags

Why not just patch osm2pgsql? It seems like the right place for this is on the relation. On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 4:03 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: > Hi all, > > I wanted to get an opinion on the right place for 'ref' tags on numbered > routes. > > From what I understand, osm2pgsql and the downstre

Re: [Talk-us] Cleaning up California FMMP "residential"

Having received nothing but positive feedback I'll put figuring out how to do this on my to-do list if there are no objections. I may come back for more consultation if I feel it necessary after looking at the technical steps. I won't conduct this edit before Friday at the absolute soonest. We pr

Re: [Talk-us] Neighborhoods / Zillow

It's not about mapping the sign, it's about mapping the neighborhood based on the sign. We don't map speed limit signs, we map the speed limits on the roads based on the signs. We don't map interstate signs, we map the name of the interstate. We don't map individual trees, we map forests. We do

Re: [Talk-us] Neighborhoods / Zillow

On 2013-06-15 6:51 PM, Serge Wroclawski wrote: > There is a growing number of OSM folks in the United States (myself >>> included) who believe that government provided boundry data should be >>> used for data products such as rendered maps and geocoders, but do not >>> belong in OSM's core dataset

[Talk-us] ref tags

Hi all, I wanted to get an opinion on the right place for 'ref' tags on numbered routes. >From what I understand, osm2pgsql and the downstream rendering process uses the ref tags on the way object to render highway 'shields'. The following example corroborates this. Consider this (long) way: ht

Re: [Talk-us] Neighborhoods / Zillow

On 2013-06-15 6:51 PM, Serge Wroclawski wrote: On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 6:35 PM, stevea wrote: For the former, I don't need a painted line on the ground, just what the City GIS department publishes on the open Internet, after these lines/polygons/neighborhood boundaries were reached by public p

Re: [Talk-us] GNIS?

On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 7:56 AM, Clifford Snow wrote: > > At last years SOTM-US conference, USGS showed a pilot program using a > modified version of Potlatch2 to update GNIS database with volunteers. If > they use this plan, the id tag could be used to compare OSM with the new > data. It would us

Re: [Talk-us] Neighborhoods / Zillow

In Nashville, TN, where I live, most of the city's growth has been since World War II, and hence suburban in nature. Some subdivisions have permanent signs, some don't. Some have a discernable tree structure, some have a loose grid, a few areas have a rectilinear grid. Plus, some areas combi

Re: [Talk-us] GNIS?

On 6/17/2013 10:56 AM, Clifford Snow wrote: At last years SOTM-US conference, USGS showed a pilot program using a modified version of Potlatch2 to update GNIS database with volunteers. If they use this plan, the id tag could be used to compare OSM with the new data. It would us to compare the ex

Re: [Talk-us] GNIS?

Jim McAndrew, one of the US Board Members, gave a presentation on the USGS National Map Corps project status on June 9th ( http://stateofthemap.us/sunday.html#schedule/sunday/usgs-national-map-corps). I recommend the community work with Jim and his colleagues to ensure the most effective exchange

Re: [Talk-us] GNIS?

On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 2:49 AM, Mike N wrote: > At one time, there was a plan for the USGS to use updated GNIS from OSM, > but I think that plan has become stranded on the island of license > incompatibility. Therefore, even the GNIS id tag isn't critical IMO. At last years SOTM-US conferenc

Re: [Talk-us] GNIS?

On 6/16/2013 7:20 PM, Thomas Colson wrote: Is it preferable to keep the original GNIS tags if updating a GNIS object in OSM? It's fine to leave or delete all GNIS tags. If creating an object with an area, I just copy all GNIS tags and merge tags from duplicate objects. At one time, ther

Re: [Talk-us] Road Restriction: No RV's?

On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 3:27 PM, Thomas Colson wrote: > Is there a tag equivalent for a road restriction that would imply no > Recreational Vehicles/Motor Homes/Buses? > Are you talking RV's as "not advised" or "prohibited"? And how about trucks with a given kingpin-to-rearmost-axle (KPRA) dista

Re: [Talk-us] Neighborhoods / Zillow

On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 7:22 PM, Nathan Mills wrote: > The sort of signs in the link below are precisely the sort of thing we put > in OSM, or at least have historically. > https://www.cityoftulsa.org/**community-programs/** > neighborhoods/neighborhood-**sign-guide.aspx

Re: [Talk-us] GNIS?

On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Thomas Colson wrote: > Is it preferable to keep the original GNIS tags if updating a GNIS object > in > OSM? I preserve the GNIS id number, even if I convert the feature from node to way (or vice versa). I do this not so much for later conflation, but as it acts