[Talk-us] Nominatim in CDP

2014-06-11 Thread Clifford Snow
I can not search for an address in part of unincorporated King County, WA when using the postal city. Fails - 7732 234th Place Northeast, Redmond, WA The search works when omitting the postal city. The search returns the CDP, Union Hill-Novelty Hill at the correct location. Passes - 7732 234th P

Re: [Talk-us] Nominatim in CDP

2014-06-11 Thread Ian Dees
CDPs were (incorrectly, probably) imported several years ago, leading to your problem. I don't know for sure, but Nominatim probably only pays attention to geographic containment when it comes to hierarchy information like the city. It probably should also index the addr:city tag too. On Jun 11, 2

Re: [Talk-us] Nominatim in CDP

2014-06-11 Thread Serge Wroclawski
CDPs in OSM have been an ongoing issue of discussion for a while. NE2 stated that he would delete them all unless someone could show him a single example of them being useful. I pointed out that Bethesda, MD (noted for being where the NIH and the Naval Medical Academy, along with several other la

Re: [Talk-us] Nominatim in CDP

2014-06-11 Thread Richard Welty
however folks may feel about CDPs, they aren't administrative government entities and the current tagging of them with an admin_level is clearly wrong (which Paul Norman pointed out to me a little while ago and he's absolutely right). if we can't get them out of the database then we should at least

Re: [Talk-us] Nominatim in CDP

2014-06-11 Thread Clifford Snow
On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 11:20 AM, Richard Welty wrote: > however folks may feel about CDPs, they aren't administrative government > entities and the current tagging of them with an admin_level is clearly > wrong (which Paul Norman pointed out to me a little while ago and he's > absolutely right).

Re: [Talk-us] Nominatim in CDP

2014-06-11 Thread Serge Wroclawski
Clifford, I do not like your statement in favor of deleting Bethesda from OSM. - Serge On Jun 11, 2014 4:21 PM, "Clifford Snow" wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 11:20 AM, Richard Welty > wrote: > >> however folks may feel about CDPs, they aren't administrative government >> entities and the

Re: [Talk-us] Nominatim in CDP

2014-06-11 Thread Clifford Snow
On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 4:43 PM, Serge Wroclawski wrote: > I do not like your statement in favor of deleting Bethesda from OSM. OK -- @osm_seattle osm_seattle.snowandsnow.us OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@op

Re: [Talk-us] Nominatim in CDP

2014-06-11 Thread stevea
CDPs in OSM have been an ongoing issue of discussion for a while. Yup, I wrote here about CDPs getting tangled up with admin_boundary in OSM in 2012! CDPs have no effective or "OSM sensible" admin_level boundary value, I think that much we have established. NE2 stated that he would delete

Re: [Talk-us] Nominatim in CDP

2014-06-11 Thread Saikrishna Arcot
On Wednesday, June 11, 2014 01:19:10 PM Clifford Snow wrote: I think that Ian is correct that Nominatim is failing to find the address because of the CDP boundary. But does that make Nominatim wrong or the admin boundary? My expectation is that Nominatim would use the CDP (or the city region i

Re: [Talk-us] Nominatim in CDP

2014-06-11 Thread Clifford Snow
On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 6:45 PM, Saikrishna Arcot wrote: > My expectation is that Nominatim would use the CDP (or the city region > it's located in) if there is no addr:city, and either > >1. would allow either the CDP and addr:city when addr:city is present, >or >2. use only the addr

Re: [Talk-us] Talk-us Digest, Vol 79, Issue 13

2014-06-11 Thread stevea
Clifford Snow writes: The CDP boundary seems to override the addr:city. The addr:city tag is just the mailing address tag since the node is outside of the city limits. From reading the documentation of Nominatim, I thought that the addr tags would be the first choice. That's why I wonder if the pr