Re: [Talk-us] Mappy hour tomorrow!

2015-03-09 Thread Paul Johnson
Normally this would work out better for me but I'm either going to be picking up the Cherry Bomb (my truck, so named after an incident in which an ether-fuelled backfire burned off my beard and half my hair about 3 weeks ago) from the shop or comatose. On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 9:42 PM, Martijn van E

Re: [Talk-us] Bus "flag" stops?

2015-03-09 Thread Marc Gemis
So you mean that there is at least a pole to indicate the stop, something as on this picture [1] ? regards m [1] http://xian.smugmug.com/OSM/OSM-2015/2015-03-08-Kester/i-LFFfVns On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 4:12 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 5:22 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer < > diet

Re: [Talk-us] Bus "flag" stops?

2015-03-09 Thread Paul Johnson
No. There's nothing. It just appears on the schedule. On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 4:58 AM, Marc Gemis wrote: > So you mean that there is at least a pole to indicate the stop, something > as on this picture [1] ? > > regards > > m > > > [1] http://xian.smugmug.com/OSM/OSM-2015/2015-03-08-Kester/i-LF

Re: [Talk-us] Bus "flag" stops?

2015-03-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-03-08 16:12 GMT+01:00 Paul Johnson : > On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 5:22 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer < > dieterdre...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > If someone pulls the cord or there's someone waiting at it, yes. But it's > not like a bus station where the bus will always stop regardless of demand. > I w

Re: [Talk-us] Bus "flag" stops?

2015-03-09 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 5:08 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > I'd tag them as highway=bus_stop (or whatever scheme you prefer, or both), > and if you want to get detailed add stuff like bench=no, shelter=no etc. > Sounds good. I think I need to roll back and reimport then, since this fundamental

Re: [Talk-us] Bus "flag" stops?

2015-03-09 Thread SomeoneElse
On 08/03/2015 15:12, Paul Johnson wrote: If someone pulls the cord or there's someone waiting at it, yes. But it's not like a bus station where the bus will always stop regardless of demand. In the UK "customary stops" like this tend to get tagged as "physically_present=no": http://www

Re: [Talk-us] Bus "flag" stops?

2015-03-09 Thread Harald Kliems
On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 5:15 AM Paul Johnson wrote: > > or are they "dynamic" (meaning you can waive your hand in any place along >> the route and the bus will stop)? In this case I'd not map any bus stops >> (as there aren't actually "spots"). >> > > Also possible so much as there isn't an actuall

Re: [Talk-us] Bus "flag" stops?

2015-03-09 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 8:33 AM, Harald Kliems wrote: > > > On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 5:15 AM Paul Johnson wrote: >> >> or are they "dynamic" (meaning you can waive your hand in any place along >>> the route and the bus will stop)? In this case I'd not map any bus stops >>> (as there aren't actually

[Talk-us] Best practices for outdoor mapping party

2015-03-09 Thread Harald Kliems
With help from the wonderful folks at Maptime Madison, we're planning on hosting the first Madison (Wisc.) mapping party on the Spring Mapathon weekend. Nobody involved has ever organized or even attended a mapping party, so we wouldn't mind some advice. From reading on the wiki and various user di

Re: [Talk-us] Best practices for outdoor mapping party

2015-03-09 Thread Steven Johnson
Hi Harald, It's great to see more events like this popping up all over. Is it due to the spring thaw? Or greater community interest? Generally, your plan sounds good. A few points that may help: * I'm a vocal proponent of using local libraries from start to finish for these events as they provide

Re: [Talk-us] Mappy hour tomorrow!

2015-03-09 Thread Richard Welty
On 3/8/15 11:49 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: > Sorry you can't make it Jack. > > The direct hangout link is here - I > think: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/event/cpiqg6sldpjconoipvhmd3skhcc > Sorry, Google+ makes it really hard to just share a link to an event. > I still don't quite understan

Re: [Talk-us] Best practices for outdoor mapping party

2015-03-09 Thread Peter Dobratz
I've given up the dedicated GPS and/or pen and paper for data collection and I do everything using the camera and notes application on my smartphone. All the pictures I take are geotagged. I transfer the photos to a computer via the USB port and then load them into JOSM with a marker showing wher

Re: [Talk-us] Best practices for outdoor mapping party

2015-03-09 Thread Paul Johnson
Mapillary is your friend. On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 1:06 PM, Peter Dobratz wrote: > I've given up the dedicated GPS and/or pen and paper for data collection > and I do everything using the camera and notes application on my smartphone. > > All the pictures I take are geotagged. I transfer the phot

Re: [Talk-us] Best practices for outdoor mapping party

2015-03-09 Thread Harald Kliems
Thanks for the advice, Steven! On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 12:13 PM Steven Johnson wrote: > > It's great to see more events like this popping up all over. Is it due to > the spring thaw? Or greater community interest? > Let's say that they're probably both necessary ingredients to make this happen :)

Re: [Talk-us] Best practices for outdoor mapping party

2015-03-09 Thread Tod Fitch
I find using an app like OsmPad useful when collecting address data. About as fast, maybe faster than, writing numbers on paper when collecting data. And much faster when editing in JOSM. Tod On Mar 9, 2015, at 11:06 AM, Peter Dobratz wrote: > I've given up the dedicated GPS and/or pen and pap

Re: [Talk-us] Best practices for outdoor mapping party

2015-03-09 Thread Clifford Snow
On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 9:09 AM, Harald Kliems wrote: > With help from the wonderful folks at Maptime Madison, we're planning on > hosting the first Madison (Wisc.) mapping party on the Spring Mapathon > weekend. Nobody involved has ever organized or even attended a mapping > party, so we wouldn't

Re: [Talk-us] Best practices for outdoor mapping party

2015-03-09 Thread Simon Poole
The real core question is: will you have newbies or not? Old hands will have their favourite method of mapping anyway and are unlikely to change (obviously for nearly every thing except large scale geometry changes vespucci is the only reasonable solution :-)). For them you simply need a reasonab

Re: [Talk-us] Best practices for outdoor mapping party

2015-03-09 Thread SomeoneElse
On 09/03/2015 16:09, Harald Kliems wrote: Does this sound reasonable? Anything else I should be thinking of? I'll apologise upfront in case any of this sounds like "the bleeding obvious" - I'm sure you'll have thought through lots of this and more already... One thing that immediately comes

Re: [Talk-us] Best practices for outdoor mapping party

2015-03-09 Thread Clifford Snow
On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 12:19 PM, Simon Poole wrote: > (obviously for nearly every thing except large scale > geometry changes vespucci is the only reasonable solution :-)). > Simon, Your are going to have to come to Seattle and teach us how to use Vespucci. We really struggle trying to use it. M

Re: [Talk-us] Best practices for outdoor mapping party

2015-03-09 Thread Simon Poole
Now days there is quite a lot of on-device help for the not so obvious parts (not that there are many). I admit that that needs to be dumped on a website (is one of the things fairly high on the TODO list). Back on topic: naturally one of the interesting things about a mapping party -is- to see ho

Re: [Talk-us] Best practices for outdoor mapping party

2015-03-09 Thread Harald Kliems
On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 2:20 PM Simon Poole wrote: > > The real core question is: will you have newbies or not? > I believe we will be more on the newbie side. There was a Maptime meet with an introduction to OSM in November, which generated a couple new contributors who will hopefully show up. So

Re: [Talk-us] Best practices for outdoor mapping party

2015-03-09 Thread stevea
I don't want to gush in a too self-congratulatory way, but the comments, tone, replies... we've seen on this thread have been awesome. Very nicely contributed, everybody, back pats and thumbs up all around. Keeping quiet for a bit now, SteveA California _

Re: [Talk-us] Best practices for outdoor mapping party

2015-03-09 Thread Andrew Wiseman
I'd also suggest the Pushpin app for iPhones too, it's a very quick way to add points that you can then add the details to later. On a previous mapathon I was doing Pushpin while my buddy was writing down the details (address, hours, website etc) to add back when we got to the library. It worked gr

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Your opinion about SOTM US

2015-03-09 Thread Alex Barth
Casting the net a little wider: What do you think are the big topics and challenges for OpenStreetMap as we're about to go into the second decade? What does this mean for State of the Map? On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 8:40 AM, Martijn van Exel wrote: > Hey all, > > I put together a 3 minute survey

Re: [Talk-us] Best practices for outdoor mapping party

2015-03-09 Thread Alex Barth
It would be great to have this topic at State of the Map US as a talk, workshop or a mapping party http://stateofthemap.us/ On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 7:10 PM, Andrew Wiseman wrote: > I'd also suggest the Pushpin app for iPhones too, it's a very quick way to > add points that you can then add the de

Re: [Talk-us] Best practices for outdoor mapping party

2015-03-09 Thread Russ Nelson
Alex Barth writes: > It would be great to have this topic at State of the Map US as a talk, > workshop or a mapping party http://stateofthemap.us/ Whoa! We could have a mapping party to talk about mapping parties! Awesome! I expect to be there. I will bring my Columbus V-990, which is the most

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Your opinion about SOTM US

2015-03-09 Thread Russ Nelson
Alex Barth writes: > What do you think are the big topics and challenges for OpenStreetMap as > we're about to go into the second decade? What does this mean for State of > the Map? For OSM in the US? Finding and fixing the badly-digitized TIGER data. I've got it mostly under control in NY, but