Re: [Talk-us] SEO Damage to OSM

2017-07-05 Thread Clifford Snow
I'm looking for input on doing a post on the Reddit/r/SEO subreddit describing some of the damage done by a few and why adding their clients to OSM won't help. What concerns me is that it will create another TheSilphRoad where every Pokemon player wants to add fake water features. Do you think it

Re: [Talk-us] SEO Damage to OSM

2017-07-05 Thread John F. Eldredge
The "mechanical Turk" term is not an ethnic slur, but instead an allusion to a famous 18th-century chess-playing automaton, made to resemble the upper body of a man in traditional Turkish clothing, mounted on a cabinet. It was eventually revealed to be a fake automaton, operated by a man hidden

Re: [Talk-us] Erie Canalway Trail

2017-07-05 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 12:54 PM, Kevin Kenny wrote: > In my neighbourhood in Niskayuna, the trail as placarded > leaves the Mohawk-Hudson path at Blatnick Park, backtracks along River > Road to Riverdale Road (there's a bike path on the shoulder and a > signed

Re: [Talk-us] SEO Damage to OSM

2017-07-05 Thread Clifford Snow
Can we curtail the discussion on which country is responsible? It doesn't seem to help move us forward to tackling the problem. I've met with two different SEO companies looking to add their clients to OSM. It appears they didn't want to go through the import process nor did they start adding

Re: [Talk-us] SEO Damage to OSM

2017-07-05 Thread Ethan Nelson
Just to bring a little perspective from the DWG (but speaking in a personal capacity): The issue of SEO groups adding information first came up at the beginning of 2016. We were able to revert a lot of the data for a while in cooperation with vigilant users. Blocks are useless in these cases

Re: [Talk-us] SEO Damage to OSM

2017-07-05 Thread Denis Carriere
Great research Frederik! *~~* *Denis Carriere* On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 5:05 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > > > These spam changes do not need that complexity to detect. > > I've done some numbers, maybe it helps. > > I counted all users that only ever commited one

Re: [Talk-us] SEO Damage to OSM

2017-07-05 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, > These spam changes do not need that complexity to detect. I've done some numbers, maybe it helps. I counted all users that only ever commited one changeset with one edit inside. This number is 140352. Then I discarded those where the changeset comment was shorter than 50 characters or

Re: [Talk-us] SEO Damage to OSM

2017-07-05 Thread Simon Poole
Just to put the whole thing into perspective: the current run rate of SEO fake accounts in the US seems to be reasonably low. I counted 5 for the last 7 days, that is roughly 2% of new mappers in the US during those 7 days. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [Talk-us] SEO Damage to OSM

2017-07-05 Thread Simon Poole
Am 05.07.2017 um 17:27 schrieb Greg Morgan: > > > Am 01.07.2017 um 08:33 schrieb Simon Poole: > > ...given that we have a known US based SEO company that has created > (literally) 1000s of such accounts (but with slightly less spammy > edits), and "we" haven't taken any action, why should we in

Re: [Talk-us] SEO Damage to OSM

2017-07-05 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 07/05/2017 05:40 PM, Andy Townsend wrote: > On 05/07/2017 16:27, Greg Morgan wrote: >> I've seen the DWG go after real newbies because they are exited and >> want to make a difference but make a few mistakes. > > Have you got an example of that (offlist if it would be preferable)? Yes, I

Re: [Talk-us] Erie Canalway Trail

2017-07-05 Thread OSM Volunteer stevea
Hi Kevin:It may be that more than one relation is warranted because of multiple trail uses.  I can see how there might be one tagged route=hiking and another tagged route=bicycle, although if the trail is largely unpaved, route=mtb is preferred instead of the latter.  Of course, these would likely

Re: [Talk-us] Erie Canalway Trail

2017-07-05 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Jul 5, 2017 10:25 AM, "Richard Welty" wrote: > you may want to consider a super relation. some parts of the Canalway trail > are themselves named trails, for example the Mohawk-Hudson Bike-Hike Trail > from Schenectady to Albany. i think i have set up a relation for

Re: [Talk-us] SEO Damage to OSM

2017-07-05 Thread Rihards
On 2017.07.05. 18:40, Andy Townsend wrote: > On 05/07/2017 16:27, Greg Morgan wrote: >> I've seen the DWG go after real newbies because they are exited and >> want to make a difference but make a few mistakes. > > Have you got an example of that (offlist if it would be preferable)? > > A

Re: [Talk-us] SEO Damage to OSM

2017-07-05 Thread Andy Townsend
On 05/07/2017 16:27, Greg Morgan wrote: I've seen the DWG go after real newbies because they are exited and want to make a difference but make a few mistakes. Have you got an example of that (offlist if it would be preferable)? A significant amount of my DWG time is spent trying to persuade

Re: [Talk-us] SEO Damage to OSM

2017-07-05 Thread Greg Morgan
On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 10:23 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > > On 06/30/2017 06:21 PM, Clifford Snow wrote: > > Edits, from what appears to be a search engine optimization company > > (SEO), have damaged a number of ways in the US. > > Was it not possible to determine the

Re: [Talk-us] FBI using OSM on website... without attribution

2017-07-05 Thread Mike Thompson
On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 2:14 PM, Mike Thompson wrote: > https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/field-offices/denver > > See map in upper right part of page > Looks like they fixed it! Thanks for everyone's help. Mike ___ Talk-us mailing

Re: [Talk-us] Erie Canalway Trail

2017-07-05 Thread Richard Welty
On 7/5/17 1:07 AM, Kevin Kenny wrote: > Is anyone interested in getting a route relation started with the > correct route? I see in a number of other places in New York that the > trail is indicated by the name of a way, but the ways are not linked > into a coherent route. you may want to