Re: [Talk-us] National Forest boundaries

2020-06-21 Thread Bradley White
> A relation for all would be ok too, as long as the private inholdings are > not removed from the NF (which I think has been done in some cases). I've argued for this in the past on this mailing list, but have since come around to disagreeing with this position over tagging semantics. Most NF bou

Re: [Talk-us] Labeling county roads (Idaho)

2020-06-21 Thread Mark Wagner
On Sun, 21 Jun 2020 21:45:19 +0900 tj-osmw...@lowsnr.net wrote: > Newby here. > > Started mapping an area of the Idaho panhandle around the Kootenai > river. I notice that currently minor roads have a "County Road nn" > name but TIGER2019 data also has names such as "Acacia Avenue". I > think mos

Re: [Talk-us] National Forest boundaries (Mike Thompson)

2020-06-21 Thread stevea
On Jun 21, 2020, at 5:58 PM, Mike Thompson wrote: > 1) Not all "inholdings" are completely surrounded by the National Forest, > they are "bites" off the edge in some cases. I don't think one can have an > inner ring and an outer ring which are at all coincident (they can't share an > edge) and

Re: [Talk-us] National Forest boundaries (Mike Thompson)

2020-06-21 Thread Mike Thompson
Steve, Perhaps I am not understanding what you are saying, but: 1) Not all "inholdings" are completely surrounded by the National Forest, they are "bites" off the edge in some cases. I don't think one can have an inner ring and an outer ring which are at all coincident (they can't share an edge)

Re: [Talk-us] National Forest boundaries (Mike Thompson)

2020-06-21 Thread stevea
Continuing from my previous post, we even have an especially data-compact (efficient) way of representing that: the member of the forest relation which is an inholding (tagged with role inner) IS the polygon of, say, a private residence "inside of" the forest. For example (I'm making this up),

Re: [Talk-us] National Forest boundaries (Mike Thompson)

2020-06-21 Thread stevea
Mike Thompson wrote: > One polygon for the administrative boundary of the NF which was established > by Congress. > Zero or more polygons describing limitations on access (no need for polygons > to for access=yes, we can assume that in a NF generally), whether they be due > to private owner

Re: [Talk-us] National Forest boundaries

2020-06-21 Thread Mike Thompson
On Sun, Jun 21, 2020 at 5:45 PM stevea wrote: > > A large thank-you to Kevin for that deeply informative post. > > > brad wrote: > > I think its simpler and better to just create an inner boundary as was done with the Coconino NF > > The Coconio NF (relation/10956348) hasn't "an" inner boundary,

Re: [Talk-us] National Forest boundaries

2020-06-21 Thread stevea
A large thank-you to Kevin for that deeply informative post. > brad wrote: > I think its simpler and better to just create an inner boundary as was done > with the Coconino NF The Coconio NF (relation/10956348) hasn't "an" inner boundary, it has hundreds of them. I'm not sure I understand wha

Re: [Talk-us] National Forest boundaries

2020-06-21 Thread Mike Thompson
On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 6:31 PM Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > > > I was thinking just create separate polygons for inholdings, tagged with access=private and possibly ownership=private > > While many Americans like to put "no trespassing" signs on their private property, a privately owned parcel is no

Re: [Talk-us] National Forest boundaries

2020-06-21 Thread Paul White
*Sorry, forgot to send this to the mailing list...* Thanks for the input. However, doesn't that violate "one feature, one OSM element" ? I believe we should stick with the inholding method, because separating national forests into

Re: [Talk-us] National Forest boundaries

2020-06-21 Thread Adam Franco
Three years ago I updated the tagging and relations of the Green Mountain National Forest in Vermont after some discussion in the Tagging list (start

Re: [Talk-us] Labeling county roads (Idaho)

2020-06-21 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Sun, Jun 21, 2020 at 9:31 AM wrote: > Started mapping an area of the Idaho panhandle around the Kootenai > river. I notice that currently minor roads have a "County Road nn" name > but TIGER2019 data also has names such as "Acacia Avenue". I think most > map users would want to use the "Acacia

Re: [Talk-us] Labeling county roads (Idaho)

2020-06-21 Thread Clifford Snow
Be cautious using TIGER data in rural areas. I suspect many of the small counties don't have the resources to send updates to Census. I'd recommend looking at county and state data sources for accurate road names. Best, Clifford On Sun, Jun 21, 2020 at 6:29 AM wrote: > > Newby here. > > Started

[Talk-us] Labeling county roads (Idaho)

2020-06-21 Thread tj-osmwiki
Newby here. Started mapping an area of the Idaho panhandle around the Kootenai river. I notice that currently minor roads have a "County Road nn" name but TIGER2019 data also has names such as "Acacia Avenue". I think most map users would want to use the "Acacia Avenue" name as it what would be l

[Talk-us] weeklyOSM #517 2020-06-09-2020-06-15

2020-06-21 Thread weeklyteam
The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 517, is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of a lot of things happening in the openstreetmap world: https://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/archives/13289/ Enjoy! Did you know that you can also submit messages for the weeklyOSM? Just log i