Re: [Talk-us] United States Bicycle Route System ballot(s) pending AASHTO approval

Thanks, Richard. That's valuable input and I've updated the USBRS wiki, which effectively puts the (informal) proposal for proposed:route=bicycle into a sort of stalemate. SteveA ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-us] [Tagging] Large fire perimeter tagging?

Clifford Snow wrote: > Just a reminder, landuse is to tag what the land is used for. landuse=forest > is for areas that have harvestable wood products, ie trees. Just because > there was a fire doesn't mean the landuse changes. Landcover is a better tag > for burnt areas as well as areas just

Re: [Talk-us] [Tagging] Large fire perimeter tagging?

Steve, Just a reminder, landuse is to tag what the land is used for. landuse=forest is for areas that have harvestable wood products, ie trees. Just because there was a fire doesn't mean the landuse changes. Landcover is a better tag for burnt areas as well as areas just clearcut. On Thu, Sep

Re: [Talk-us] Large fire perimeter tagging?

I didn't get a single reply on this (see below), which I find surprising, especially as there are currently even larger fires that are more widespread all across the Western United States. I now ask if there are additional, appropriate polygons with tags I'm not familiar with regarding

Re: [Talk-us] place=neighborhood on subdivisions?

The problem with "suburb" is like the problem with "football": there are two meanings, and a very large population that doesn't know about the other meaning. That guarantees widespread misuse. -- Mark On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 11:55:55 -0400 Brian Stromberg wrote: > If suburb is a commonly

Re: [Talk-us] place=neighborhood on subdivisions?

I'd like to clarify my take-aways from this discussion, hopefully yours, too. Thank you for reading and your patience. Brian says that a common (THE common) definition of "suburb" in the US is (roughly) "a smaller city next to or near a much larger one as part of a conurbation." I agree that

Re: [Talk-us] place=neighborhood on subdivisions?

Another vote for Evin and Minh's interpretation. I've been tagging named, signed, suburban (in the US sense) subdivisions with landuse=residential and name=*. I make no distinction among the subdivisions that consist of apartments, terraces, or detached houses (except when mapping the buildings

Re: [Talk-us] place=neighborhood on subdivisions?

If suburb is a commonly understood and useful concept in other countries then it seems good to keep it around. I don't really know what the implications are of retirement or what the process would be. I would instead advocate for country-specific guidance on its usage. -- Brian On Thu, Sep 24,

Re: [Talk-us] place=neighborhood on subdivisions?

I totally agree with Minh here. I always thought that it was standard parctice in OSM to add the name tag to a landuse=residential way that encompasses the subdivision. Subdivision names aren't always used in common parlance (especially if it's a smaller subdivision) so most people wouldn't

Re: [Talk-us] place=neighborhood on subdivisions?

On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 8:32 AM Brian Stromberg wrote: > This contradicts the OSM wiki but seems like the only way to avoid > confusion. > Much like sport=american_football vs sport=soccer, this makes sense. Maybe it's time to retire place=suburb as a tag due to its ambiguity? > The only

Re: [Talk-us] While we're fixing things in iterations

On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 3:55 AM Minh Nguyen wrote: > Vào lúc 10:45 2020-09-23, Paul Johnson đã viết: > > Can we finally fix two other longstanding problems, then? > > > > 1. The wiki being incorrect about not counting bicycle lanes. That's > > not reflective of how validators deal with lanes,

Re: [Talk-us] While we're fixing things in iterations

On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 6:04 AM Minh Nguyen wrote: > More recently, Kevin Kenny reimplemented the shield renderer using a > more robust approach [3] and has discussed route relation support with > the openstreetmap-carto developers. [4] > > OSMUS is interested in offering an Americentric renderer

Re: [Talk-us] place=neighborhood on subdivisions?

> > I don't know that I agree with "suburbs have had a very clear definition > in the United States for decades." To wit, some would say that a "suburb" > can be an incorporated city that is smaller than, but "associated with" > (and maybe even sharing a partial contiguous boundary with) a larger

Re: [Talk-us] While we're fixing things in iterations

Vào lúc 15:56 2020-09-23, Andy Townsend đã viết: I'm actually surprised that someone associated with the OSM US community hasn't created a proof-of-concept "good US road route rendering" variant of the OSM Carto style on a live server that people can use for reference (I'm guessing ongoing

Re: [Talk-us] place=neighborhood on subdivisions?

Vào lúc 11:02 2020-09-23, stevea đã viết: On Sep 23, 2020, at 10:51 AM, Brian Stromberg wrote: A short question of a lengthy response: What is the history behind that definition of 'suburb'? Is it a result of the term being used that way in UK/Europe/elsewhere? Seems like an odd usage, since

Re: [Talk-us] While we're fixing things in iterations

Vào lúc 10:45 2020-09-23, Paul Johnson đã viết: Can we finally fix two other longstanding problems, then? 1. The wiki being incorrect about not counting bicycle lanes.  That's not reflective of how validators deal with lanes, how data consumers like Osmand or Magic Earth deal with lanes, or

Re: [Talk-us] United States Bicycle Route System ballot(s) pending AASHTO approval

SteveA wrote: > With both of us in agreement about tag "proposed:route=bicycle" > (especially as it co-exists with "state=proposed") can we gain > some more consensus (here, soon?) allowing us to move closer towards > recommending in our wiki that we tag proposed USBRs with >

Re: [Talk-us] place=neighborhood on subdivisions?

Vào lúc 21:47 2020-09-22, Paul Johnson đã viết: On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 8:56 PM stevea > wrote: If you MUST tag place=neighbourhood (note the u) see if you agree with me that this tag makes most sense in a hierarchy where place=suburb (and perhaps

Re: [Talk-us] place=neighborhood on subdivisions?

Vào lúc 18:40 2020-09-22, Paul Johnson đã viết: On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 8:36 PM Mike N > wrote: On 9/22/2020 9:26 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: >         The extra hamlet nodes are import remainders that haven't yet been >     converted to landuse areas.