Re: [Talk-us] Abandoned railway

2014-08-30 Thread Paul Norman
On 8/29/2014 9:41 PM, Russ Nelson wrote: And then I can point you to oddly connected roads, and a lack of buildings, or new buildings. Those things should certainly be mapped, but there are other projects to put historical data. ___ Talk-us mailing

Re: [Talk-us] Abandoned railway

2014-08-30 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Russ Nelson wrote: I fear that the deletionism infection has jumped from Wikipedia to OpenStreetMap. ...is exactly what I was going to say. Seriously, OSM in the US, outside a few cities, is still way beyond broken. You can open it at any random location and the map is just fictional. (I did,

Re: [Talk-us] Abandoned railway

2014-08-30 Thread Mike N
On 8/30/2014 4:33 AM, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Seriously, OSM in the US, outside a few cities, is still way beyond broken. You can open it at any random location and the map is just fictional. (I did, just now:http://www.osm.org/edit#map=13/36.1938/-103.6446 . Landing on the high plains

Re: [Talk-us] Abandoned railway

2014-08-30 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Il giorno 30/ago/2014, alle ore 10:33, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net ha scritto: Russ Nelson wrote: I fear that the deletionism infection has jumped from Wikipedia to OpenStreetMap. ...is exactly what I was going to say. Seriously, OSM in the US, outside a few cities, is

Re: [Talk-us] Abandoned railway

2014-08-30 Thread Russ Nelson
Paul Norman writes: On 8/29/2014 9:41 PM, Russ Nelson wrote: And then I can point you to oddly connected roads, and a lack of buildings, or new buildings. Those things should certainly be mapped, but there are other projects to put historical data. Don't render them, then. Oh, wait,

Re: [Talk-us] Abandoned railway

2014-08-30 Thread Martijn van Exel
Nelson nel...@crynwr.com Reply: Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com Date: August 30, 2014 at 10:07:07 AM To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org talk-us@openstreetmap.org Subject:  Re: [Talk-us] Abandoned railway Paul Norman writes: On 8/29/2014 9:41 PM, Russ Nelson wrote: And then I can point you to oddly

Re: [Talk-us] Abandoned railway

2014-08-30 Thread Russ Nelson
Mike N writes: On 8/30/2014 4:33 AM, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Seriously, OSM in the US, outside a few cities, is still way beyond broken. You can open it at any random location and the map is just fictional. (I did, just now:http://www.osm.org/edit#map=13/36.1938/-103.6446 .

Re: [Talk-us] Abandoned railway

2014-08-30 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Mike N. wrote: Landing on the high plains desert in the west does not make a good case that OSM in the US is broken. Desert imagery cues do not match those of conventional climates. I really wish I could agree with you, Mike, but my experience is that ~75% of the US landmass is like that.

Re: [Talk-us] Abandoned railway

2014-08-30 Thread Ian Dees
Hi. Let's stop this thread here, please. Thanks, Your friendly list admin ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us

Re: [Talk-us] Abandoned railway

2014-08-30 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 6:28 AM, Mike N nice...@att.net wrote: Landing on the high plains desert in the west does not make a good case that OSM in the US is broken. Desert imagery cues do not match those of conventional climates. Those roads likely do exist, but are barely visible in

Re: [Talk-us] Abandoned railway

2014-08-30 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 1:59 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: NO! We would *still* classify them as tracks! Because there's no good reason to classify them as more major, given consistency. We're trying to * not* break the routers, after all. Yes, I realize that the vast

Re: [Talk-us] Abandoned railway

2014-08-29 Thread Paul Norman
On 8/28/2014 10:56 PM, Hans De Kryger wrote: Is this abandoned railway really need at all? The last person to touch it was NE2. If there's no trace on the ground, delete it. If it's still there but without tracks, use railway=dismantled (e.g. a bed). By the looks of it, a lot of it goes

Re: [Talk-us] Abandoned railway

2014-08-29 Thread Volker Schmidt
talk-us@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-us] Abandoned railway Message-ID: caocdcsbzed2wjr-psgcalulgqjqp7r0nrn30-3tat_hocsg...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Is this abandoned railway really need at all? The last person to touch it was NE2. http

Re: [Talk-us] Abandoned railway

2014-08-29 Thread Russ Nelson
Paul Norman writes: On 8/28/2014 10:56 PM, Hans De Kryger wrote: Is this abandoned railway really need at all? The last person to touch it was NE2. If there's no trace on the ground, delete it. If it's still there but without tracks, use railway=dismantled (e.g. a bed). By the

Re: [Talk-us] Abandoned railway

2014-08-29 Thread Russ Nelson
Volker Schmidt writes: I would be a little bit more careful: If no bits of the railway survive, remove it. But if some bits are still there (e.g. buildings converted to different use, some pieces of railway bed, ...) it may be useful to maintain also some abandoned and now invisible

Re: [Talk-us] Abandoned railway

2014-08-29 Thread Hans De Kryger
I ended up deleting it completely. But another mapper disagreed with my edit and reverted some of it. Not sure if he reverted the entire thing. It was my mistake completely. Thought everyone was in agreement. The link i provided no longer shows the entire railway due to my deletion. But if you

[Talk-us] Abandoned railway

2014-08-28 Thread Hans De Kryger
Is this abandoned railway really need at all? The last person to touch it was NE2. http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/133791053/history#map=14/43.7165/-92.2442 *Regards,* *Hans* *http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TheDutchMan13 http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TheDutchMan13 *