Re: [Talk-us] What does the community want from a US local chapter?

2011-10-04 Thread Scott Rollins
I had a very difficult time trying to convert the hierarchy into terms I understand, and when I took to the wiki, I would come up against contradictory understandings. As for the other contributions you mention? They are less interesting to me, personally, probably because they are usually of

Re: [Talk-us] What does the community want from a US local chapter?

2011-10-03 Thread Mike N
On 10/2/2011 11:07 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: The swamp, being mostly water, is of course, level, and without any tree cover or hills for nearly a half mile in any direction, and having been using the GPS for pedestrian navigation all afternoon, made me quite surprised to see the geolocation data

Re: [Talk-us] What does the community want from a US local chapter?

2011-10-02 Thread Lars Ahlzen
On 09/30/2011 10:25 AM, Richard Weait wrote: 1) What would you like to see the US local chapter do? When Cloudmade hosted events, their representatives brought banners, brochures, stickers, loaner GPS units and similar things. I'm not sure GPS units are needed these days (with a smartphone

Re: [Talk-us] What does the community want from a US local chapter?

2011-10-02 Thread openstreetmap-talk-us
In article 4e88732c.6050...@ahlzen.com l...@ahlzen.com writes: When Cloudmade hosted events, their representatives brought banners, I have one of the cloudmade tall banners in Los Angeles. It will go in the trash in a week unless someone aranges to pick it up or pay shipping. (I can't take it

Re: [Talk-us] What does the community want from a US local chapter?

2011-10-02 Thread Ian Dees
On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 12:13 PM, openstreetmap-talk...@scd.debian.netwrote: In article 4e88732c.6050...@ahlzen.com l...@ahlzen.com writes: When Cloudmade hosted events, their representatives brought banners, I have one of the cloudmade tall banners in Los Angeles. It will go in the trash in

Re: [Talk-us] What does the community want from a US local chapter?

2011-10-02 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sun, 2011-10-02 at 10:20 -0400, Lars Ahlzen wrote: On 09/30/2011 10:25 AM, Richard Weait wrote: 1) What would you like to see the US local chapter do? When Cloudmade hosted events, their representatives brought banners, brochures, stickers, loaner GPS units and similar things. I'm not

Re: [Talk-us] What does the community want from a US local chapter?

2011-10-02 Thread Lars Ahlzen
On 10/02/2011 02:41 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: On Sun, 2011-10-02 at 10:20 -0400, Lars Ahlzen wrote: On 09/30/2011 10:25 AM, Richard Weait wrote: 1) What would you like to see the US local chapter do? When Cloudmade hosted events, their representatives brought banners, brochures, stickers,

Re: [Talk-us] What does the community want from a US local chapter?

2011-10-02 Thread Nathan Mills
On Sun, 02 Oct 2011 15:05:22 -0400, Lars Ahlzen wrote: I completely agree with you, though. The trace from my cellphone is horrifically bad compared to that of my GPSMap60, so I still use the latter a lot for mapping. What phones are you guys using? The TI chips Nokia uses seem to usually get

Re: [Talk-us] What does the community want from a US local chapter?

2011-10-02 Thread Martijn van Exel
What I still like to use a dedicated GPS for is for georeferencing the photos I take while out mapping. My camera does not have a built in GPS and I prefer to use a dedicated camera over my phone camera which would yield georeferenced images. And maybe even more importantly, to upload the traces

Re: [Talk-us] What does the community want from a US local chapter?

2011-10-02 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sun, 2011-10-02 at 20:05 -0600, Martijn van Exel wrote: What I still like to use a dedicated GPS for is for georeferencing the photos I take while out mapping. My camera does not have a built in GPS and I prefer to use a dedicated camera over my phone camera which would yield georeferenced

Re: [Talk-us] What does the community want from a US local chapter?

2011-10-01 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 10/01/2011 04:24 AM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: That consensus is very hard to reach :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:State_route_naming_conventions_poll/Account Are any of the people mentioned by username on that page involved in OSM today? Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ##

Re: [Talk-us] What does the community want from a US local chapter?

2011-10-01 Thread Anthony
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Hi, On 09/30/2011 08:36 PM, Mike N wrote: Really? Are there people who say I'd rather not map because there is no consensus on the roads tagging? Are those people the 20,000 missing mappers in the US? It is more

Re: [Talk-us] What does the community want from a US local chapter?

2011-10-01 Thread Ian Dees
On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 7:49 PM, Scott Rollins organ...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.orgwrote: Really? Are there people who say I'd rather not map because there is no consensus on the roads tagging? Are those people the 20,000 missing

Re: [Talk-us] What does the community want from a US local chapter?

2011-10-01 Thread Ian Dees
As someone currently in the OSM US group, I thought I'd share what I hoped we could accomplish: On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 9:25 AM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: I'd like to see more discussion and guidance for the US local chapter. So, questions for the community: 1) What would you

[Talk-us] What does the community want from a US local chapter?

2011-09-30 Thread Richard Weait
I'd like to see more discussion and guidance for the US local chapter. So, questions for the community: 1) What would you like to see the US local chapter do? 2) Why should this be done by the local chapter, and not by individual mappers? 3) Why should this be done by the local chapter and not

Re: [Talk-us] What does the community want from a US local chapter?

2011-09-30 Thread Peter Dobratz
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: 1) What would you like to see the US local chapter do? Come up with a consistent way to tag roads for the country. Somehow get a consensus from current mappers about how tag US/state/county/whatever highways. Update this

Re: [Talk-us] What does the community want from a US local chapter?

2011-09-30 Thread Martijn van Exel
I believe that the core tasks of the US Chapter should be 1) to support and help grow the community, and 2) engage with existing and potential professional users to stimulate awareness and adoption. Defining the map itself should not be among them, this is and should always be a community effort,

Re: [Talk-us] What does the community want from a US local chapter?

2011-09-30 Thread Peter Dobratz
Yes, OSMF US shouldn't mandate a certain tagging scheme, but they could certainly help to facilitate a consensus among the community. Peter On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote: I believe that the core tasks of the US Chapter should be 1) to support and help

Re: [Talk-us] What does the community want from a US local chapter?

2011-09-30 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Peter Dobratz wrote: Yes, OSMF US shouldn't mandate a certain tagging scheme, but they could certainly help to facilitate a consensus among the community. I'm definitely of the small government party for what OSMF (and by extension local chapters) should do. But one of the roles of OSMF,

Re: [Talk-us] What does the community want from a US local chapter?

2011-09-30 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 09/30/2011 07:48 PM, Richard Fairhurst wrote: I think you could make a case that OSM in the US is being held back by the community's failure to agree on a common tagging scheme for roads Really? Are there people who say I'd rather not map because there is no consensus on the roads

Re: [Talk-us] What does the community want from a US local chapter?

2011-09-30 Thread Brian Wilson
Personally I'd think a per-state consensus would already be quite good. Greece and Norway use different tagging schemes - so why would anyone be held back if Texas uses something other than Alaska? Simply put, Greece and Norway are different countries. When I drive across the border into

Re: [Talk-us] What does the community want from a US local chapter?

2011-09-30 Thread Ian Dees
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Brian Wilson br...@wildsong.biz wrote: Personally I'd think a per-state consensus would already be quite good. Greece and Norway use different tagging schemes - so why would anyone be held back if Texas uses something other than Alaska? Simply put, Greece

Re: [Talk-us] What does the community want from a US local chapter?

2011-09-30 Thread Brad Neuhauser
Brian, just to save you the trouble, the closest there is to a standard is the FHWA Highway Functional Classification System. There's a wiki page [1] and lengthy discussion about its pros and cons on this page if you want to wade through [2]. Definitely would be a new thread if you want to

Re: [Talk-us] What does the community want from a US local chapter?

2011-09-30 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 09/30/2011 08:36 PM, Mike N wrote: Really? Are there people who say I'd rather not map because there is no consensus on the roads tagging? Are those people the 20,000 missing mappers in the US? It is more like I don't see anyone using the map except for Skobbler, so why should I invest

Re: [Talk-us] What does the community want from a US local chapter?

2011-09-30 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Frederik Ramm wrote: Really? Are there people who say I'd rather not map because there is no consensus on the roads tagging? Are those people the 20,000 missing mappers in the US? I don't think it's all 20,000, no. :) But it's certainly significant and it is - correction, it _should_ be -

Re: [Talk-us] What does the community want from a US local chapter?

2011-09-30 Thread Richard Weait
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: [ ... ] This is an interesting thread, but I don't think we need to have a discussion about tagging consistency on this thread. Consider Advocate for tagging (especially highway) consistency added to the list of things a US

Re: [Talk-us] What does the community want from a US local chapter?

2011-09-30 Thread Paul Norman
-Original Message- From: Nathan Edgars II [mailto:nerou...@gmail.com] On 9/30/2011 1:48 PM, Richard Fairhurst wrote: I think you could make a case that OSM in the US is being held back by the community's failure to agree on a common tagging scheme for roads (about five years after

Re: [Talk-us] What does the community want from a US local chapter?

2011-09-30 Thread Martijn van Exel
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Frederik Ramm wrote: Really? Are there people who say I'd rather not map because there is no consensus on the roads tagging? Are those people the 20,000 missing mappers in the US? I don't think it's all 20,000,

Re: [Talk-us] What does the community want from a US local chapter?

2011-09-30 Thread Serge Wroclawski
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Mike N nice...@att.net wrote: On 9/30/2011 2:23 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: Really? Are there people who say I'd rather not map because there is no consensus on the roads tagging? Are those people the 20,000 missing mappers in the US?  It is more like I don't

Re: [Talk-us] What does the community want from a US local chapter?

2011-09-30 Thread TC Haddad
If it hasn't been mentioned already, I think you should add help to organize SOTM-US each year (or whatever time interval is appropriate). Tanya On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 7:25 AM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: I'd like to see more discussion and guidance for the US local chapter. So,

Re: [Talk-us] What does the community want from a US local chapter?

2011-09-30 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 9/30/2011 7:37 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: What if anything can we learn from Wikipedia? That consensus is very hard to reach :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:State_route_naming_conventions_poll/Account ___ Talk-us mailing list