The 2016 OSM US elections aren't even over yet, but it's never too soon to
start thinking about 2017. :)
To that end, I wrote a diary post about why OSM US should switch to using
Single Transferable Vote for its elections, like OSMF does. All of the current
OSM US candidates support STV to
d customly for everybody (I’d be able
>> to see elevations in feet instead of meters), but that’s not how this one
>> works.
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>> Steve
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>> From: Alan Bragg [mailto:alan.d.br...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Monday, December 21, 2015 7:3
> to see elevations in feet instead of meters), but that’s not how this one
> works.
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> Steve
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> From: Alan Bragg [mailto:alan.d.br...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, December 21, 2015 7:32 AM
> To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Openstreetmap <talk-us@openstreetma
: Alan Bragg [mailto:alan.d.br...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2015 7:32 AM
To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Openstreetmap <talk-us@openstreetmap.org>
Subject: [Talk-us] Why do city names display in the local language at osm.org?
My preferred language is set to "en"
For
My preferred language is set to "en"
For example Florence Italy displays as Firenze even though it's tagged with
many languages including en:Florence
I get the same display in both the chrome and internet explorer browsers.
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Martin Koppenhoefer writes:
Yes, I'm saying the same things. In particular, if you ask me about
these huge landuse polygons in Escondido, I don't particularily like
them. I like detailed mapping, and I believe as soon as someone
starts to map the details he'll have to split these polygons into
I add that another, vital, and even preferred approach towards
mediocre or crude data is to contact the editor and offer help
(instruction) in improving them. This really grows the project, too,
when and as it takes. Fixing something myself (and/or with others,
too) can remain as a last
On 05/03/2015 21:47, stevea wrote:
I add that another, vital, and even preferred approach towards
mediocre or crude data is to contact the editor and offer help
(instruction) in improving them. This really grows the project, too,
when and as it takes. Fixing something myself (and/or with
2015-03-05 1:14 GMT+01:00 stevea stevea...@softworkers.com:
What I understand Martin Koppenhoefer to say are essentially the same
things, but I'm not sure if he understands (or agrees) with Escondido
having large areas marked as landuse=residential. These are not simply
zoned residential
A related problem with Escondido is that the landuse areas boundaries
are attached to road centerlines. This vastly increases the editing
effort needed to improve on them later.
/Stellan
On 2015-03-05 13:30, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
2015-03-05 1:14 GMT+01:00 stevea
On 3/4/2015 3:38 PM, stevea wrote:
landuse in OSM should be the actual landuse, not the legally
permitted / designed landuse (zoning).
I do not disagree (meaning I agree), however: if my quarter-hectare
property of low density residential zoning has a house, fences, a
garage, lawns, a creek
Paul Norman quotes my previous post in this thread and writes:
This is describing the actual landuse, not the legally permitted landuse.
An example of describing the zoning instead of the actual landuse is
marking areas of the desert with no development as landuse=residential
because the
Martin Koppenhoefer writes:
landuse in OSM should be the actual landuse, not the legally
permitted / designed landuse (zoning).
I do not disagree (meaning I agree), however: if my
quarter-hectare property of low density residential zoning has a
house, fences, a garage, lawns, a creek
Being familiar with the SANDAG data (and less so, its import into
OSM), the importation of landuse polygons into OSM (having done a
number of these myself in California), Escondido proper (been there
many times) and the various ways that California cities grow (often
with low density, urban
2015-03-03 18:55 GMT+01:00 stevea stevea...@softworkers.com:
What Hans calls a mega residential area is actually local zoning which
says that all properties (parcels) in a given area are zoned residential.
While not strictly true that each square meter of this area has residential
buildings
Thanks paul!
*Regards,*
*Hans*
*http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TheDutchMan13
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TheDutchMan13*
On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 7:04 AM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote:
On 2/28/2015 4:07 AM, Hans De Kryger wrote:
The city of Escondido has this mega
The city of Escondido has this mega residential area. Just wondering why?
http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=13/33.1035/-117.0940
*Regards,*
*Hans*
*http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TheDutchMan13
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TheDutchMan13*
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On 2/28/2015 4:07 AM, Hans De Kryger wrote:
The city of Escondido has this mega residential area. Just wondering why?
http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=13/33.1035/-117.0940
There's a few things going on here
One is that there has been an import or tracing from an official landuse
plan (e.g.
Here's an example of a specific feature type bringing a new mapper to OSM:
https://bicycletrax.wordpress.com/2014/06/20/campuses-with-the-most-bike-repair-stations/
A modicum of guerrilla mapping can have a huge effect. A few athletic
fields and building outlines can quickly snowball into
Here are two examples of mapping communities NOT in OSM:
http://labyrinthlocator.com/
http://www.sanidumps.com/
To help find USA http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/148838 mappers:
I've resolved to start including links to OSM in any location related email
I send :-).
On 2015-02-17 12:30, Bryce Nesbitt wrote:
Mapilariy is fun... but collecting more data is not necessarily the
avenue to a better map.
Instead, consider how many people use the map.
Consider how many people garden a particular area of the map.
Consider how many people enthusiastically map a
A modicum of guerrilla mapping can have a huge effect. A few athletic
fields and building outlines can quickly snowball into almost every
building and driveway in town. [2]
Try this:
In the course of your everyday life, when you describe a meeting place to
someone via email, send them a
On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 11:15 AM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote:
It's easy and fun to hypothesize about why OSM is crummy in the US, but
it's vastly more useful to think of ways to improve it.
Increasing awareness through mapping parties/events seems to help a lot in
urbanized areas, but
On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 2:06 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote:
I'm thinking if they wanted broader input, they'd use the mailing list and
not the forum.
But I think a big part of it is the US is very large, and very empty.
Plot out a wall size map of the US, now pin the tail on the
I'm thinking if they wanted broader input, they'd use the mailing list and
not the forum.
But I think a big part of it is the US is very large, and very empty. Plot
out a wall size map of the US, now pin the tail on the map. Unless you
bumped a wall on the way there or have an acute sense of
On Tue Feb 17 2015 at 1:16:55 PM Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote:
Are there methods of remote sensing (street-level imagery, data from other
places on the internet) that could help us with the locality problem?
Mapillary[1] seems to have tremendous potential there. They've recently
On Feb 17, 2015, at 11:06 AM, Paul Johnson wrote:
I'm thinking if they wanted broader input, they'd use the mailing list and
not the forum.
. . .
For what it is worth, the person starting the thread is a new mapper and may
not know about the talk-us mail list. Or any other mail list for
On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 1:15 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 2:06 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote:
I'm thinking if they wanted broader input, they'd use the mailing list
and not the forum.
But I think a big part of it is the US is very large, and
FYI - there's a general discussion on Why does the USA currently lag in
OSM map quality? over on a web forum:
http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=30121
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On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 2:33 PM, Harald Kliems kli...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue Feb 17 2015 at 1:16:55 PM Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote:
Are there methods of remote sensing (street-level imagery, data from
other places on the internet) that could help us with the locality problem?
On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 11:43 AM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote:
Indeed, Mapillary is great. I wonder if there's room to get
GoPro+Mapillary to donate a few units to put together a rig that we could
ship around to people in the US that could collect data for the US
community...
Ian Dees writes:
Increasing awareness through mapping parties/events seems to help a
lot in urbanized areas, but we still haven't figured out how to
apply that to the rest of the country. Tools like MapRoulette and
fixme can guide existing mappers to areas that are probably in need
of help.
On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Harald Kliems kli...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue Feb 17 2015 at 1:16:55 PM Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote:
Are there methods of remote sensing (street-level imagery, data from
other places on the internet) that could help us with the locality problem?
+1 to Bryce's comments about reaching out to existing communities with
shared interests who may be using other tools/methods currently.
This conversation reminds me a of a presentation I saw on Missouri's recent
attempts to survey people about internet access and map broadband coverage,
including
On Tue Feb 17 2015 at 2:53:44 PM Paul Johnson
Could use a bit of work. It appears to be detecting Share the Road
signs as Cycleway Slippery When Wet/Icy signs.
Feel free to help make it better: http://www.mapillary.com/map/games/traffic
Harald.
That's a very good question, and could be interesting in a number of ways.
Oregon would be easier for a few reasons, namely that the state fair is
centralized in one reasonably well connected city with a lot of indoor
space with electricity (because it tends to be fairly predictably wet year
On 2/17/2015 3:30 PM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote:
A pile of automatically imported or collected data is really not all
that interesting or complete.
I think in the USA the way forward involves finding user communities not
served by other maps (e.g. Bear Boxes, above).
I've found that after a quorum
Could we make this a bit more mobile friendly? It'd be a great timesink
when I'm on a bus I've already collected as much data as I can flying past
everything in the dark on.
On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 2:59 PM, Harald Kliems kli...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue Feb 17 2015 at 2:53:44 PM Paul Johnson
On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 2:17 PM, o...@charles.derkarl.org wrote:
I'm going to just point out the elephant in the room here. I don't think any
normal user cares about the license at all. I think the actual reason its hard
to get new mappers, especially those that are not nerdy and obsessive
The fact of the matter is that we don't have any numbers to back any
of these claims up. Perhaps out ontology puts people off - perhaps
not. Perhaps the launch of iD has led to more new sign-ups becoming
recurring mappers - perhaps not. Maybe the increased visibility of OSM
is a factor? Maybe the
I'm going to just point out the elephant in the room here. I don't think any
normal user cares about the license at all. I think the actual reason its hard
to get new mappers, especially those that are not nerdy and obsessive like
myself is that *the ontology sucks*. There, I said it, so you
Such a thing already mostly exists in the preset system. iD has a fairly
extensive and growing set of presets that I encourage you to try (it
follows the example you give).
JOSM also has a preset system, but it's not nearly as obvious or as
complete (at least for the mapping I do). You access it
Hi Charles,
Have you looked at iD's preset-based feature editing UI? It's very close to
what you describe:
- Machine readable
ontologyhttps://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/blob/master/data/presets/README.md
- Search-based UI
- No detailed knowledge of tagging schemes necessary
- Customized UI for
JOSM also has a plugin that provides a UI for entering opening_hours.
That being said, this UI is in JOSM, but new users are probably going to use iD
since it's easy to use and is right there (quick availability).
--
Saikrishna Arcot
On Monday, March 17, 2014 01:20:12 PM Ian Dees wrote:
Such
On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 11:17 AM, o...@charles.derkarl.org wrote:
I'm going to just point out the elephant in the room here. I don't think
any
normal user cares about the license at all. I think the actual reason its
hard
to get new mappers, especially those that are not nerdy and obsessive
I made exactly this point a while back on the diversity-talk list.
The consequence of this is that by self-limiting *who* the mappers are, we also
limit the types of things that will ever appear on the map.
It’s even evident in your statement This map geek and his son?” — a point that
well
2014-03-18 1:32 GMT+01:00 Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com:
On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 1:17 PM, o...@charles.derkarl.org wrote:
The tagging of things bears little resemblance to things in the real
world:
I agree, first of all, i tried to explain to someone how to tag a cafe/bar
and
On Mon, Mar 17, 2014, at 01:17 PM, o...@charles.derkarl.org wrote:
I'm going to just point out the elephant in the room here. I don't think
any normal user cares about the license at all. I think the actual reason its
hard to get new mappers, especially those that are not nerdy and obsessive
Folks,
This is a very large project, with over a million user accounts, and
tens of thousand of active mappers around the world, but we have a
relatively small developer community for such a large project.
If you've worked on some OSM related code, or are interested in
contributing code to
The OSM Georgia meetup group is today, Feb 5, from noon to 3 PM at Raging
Burrito in Decatur, Georgia, USA.
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=143384779054605
Bill R. WASHBURN
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 04:02, Bill R. WASHBURN dygitulju...@gmail.comwrote:
OK, I'll bite.
Anyone in the
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Why aren't you getting more fun out of OpenStreetMap
OK, I'll bite.
Anyone in the Atlanta area willing to meet up (or north of the fall line in
Georgia who can come in to the MARTA service area), please send me a message
and we'll see if we can work out the timing off-list. I know there are a
bunch of mappers in the Decatur area so I'll propose
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 4:02 AM, Bill R. WASHBURN
dygitulju...@gmail.com wrote:
OK, I'll bite.
Anyone in the Atlanta area willing to meet up (or north of the fall line in
Georgia who can come in to the MARTA service area), please send me a message
and we'll see if we can work out the timing
The Metro Atlanta Geospatial Social group is a terrific crowd that hits a
different bar usually on the 3rd Thursday of the month. Unfortunately, for
new folks joining us, that means you missed a fun but noisy evening at Fado
just last night. The group is a good mix coming from local governments,
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Why aren't you getting more fun out of OpenStreetMap?
Because you don't know the right people.
That's right. You'll enjoy OSM even
Why aren't you getting more fun out of OpenStreetMap?
Because you don't know the right people.
That's right. You'll enjoy OSM even more than you do now, once you
meet some additional local mappers. But to do that you have to
actually meet them. Yes, email is nice, IRC is fine, but you have to
On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 5:23 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
Having said that - this is what he had in mind when we invented addr:*,
but of course if the wider community wants to use addr:* for different
stuff then I guess we cannot keep them from it...
It looks like the
At 2010-12-31 14:22, Toby Murray wrote:
... Also, is there much value in
adding these tags on multi-state relations? For example:
addr:state=TN;KY;OH;IN on this relation:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/444136
[ US-27 ]
Not IMO for US-* routes. No more than tagging everything
Hi,
Many route relations use addr:state to describe what state the route
is in. Should a tag intended for addresses be used this way, or is
is_in:state a better tag to use?
The addr:* family of tags was created exclusively with addressing in
mind. Only objects that have a postal address
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